[C320-list] C320-List Digest, Vol 176, Issue 1
Detrick, David (GE Comm Fin)
David.Detrick at ge.com
Wed Nov 22 10:14:59 PST 2006
How is the best way to determine the most complete auto pilot string
below from all the others
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1. autopilot (Koen Bennebroek)
2. Re: autopilot (Jeff Church)
3. Re: autopilot (Len)
4. Re: autopilot (Koen Bennebroek)
5. Re: autopilot (Koen Bennebroek)
6. Re: autopilot (Chris Holt)
7. Re: autopilot (Scott Thompson)
8. Re: autopilot (Jeff Church)
9. Re: autopilot (Jeffrey Hare)
10. Cockpit Table (Niedobre at aol.com)
11. Re: Cockpit Table (Richard A. Walker)
12. Fwd: Cockpit Table (BAdams3491 at aol.com)
13. Re: Mainsheet (Adam Weiner)
14. Re: Cockpit Table (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
15. ATN Tacker or Parrel Beads? (Denny Browne)
16. Re: Diesel Spill/Odor (jonvez at comcast.net)
17. FW: Re: Mainsheet (Karl Mielenhausen _/) )
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:04:46 -0800
From: Koen Bennebroek <koen.bennebroek at gmail.com>
Subject: [C320-list] autopilot
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I'm considering adding an autopilot to Big Cat. Most Catalina's I've
seen use the ST4000 or the MKII. It seems that both have been
discontinued and replaced by the S1.
Apart from the rudder transducer, is there a difference between the
models? Is there a reason to choose the S1 over the older models?
Also, how hard is the install? I assume all of this can be done while
the boat is in the water?
Thanks, Koen
(Big Cat, 1995, #224)
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:50:47 -0600
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] autopilot
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Koen,
I installed the MKII this spring, replacing a broken 4000+. I spoke to
Raymarine about the S1. They said that the programming in the S1 control
head might be a little better, something like 5% better in a following
sea. That didn't seem to be worth the price, but I doubt that any of the
usual boating outfits will have any 4000s in stock.
As to the installation, since the wires and compass were already in
place some of the work was already done for me, but there still was a
lot of tweaking to do.
The wheel drive did not fit without lowering the engine instrument pod.
That wasn't very difficult. Remove 2 nuts inside the pod, scrape away
the caulk on the aft tube, slide the pod down an inch, drill 2 new holes
in the back of the pod, caulk the old holes and re-caulk the tube.
If you want the clutch lever in the 5 o'clock position where it always
used to be located, you will need to drill a new locator hole in the
forward ring of the drive unit, drill a hole in the pod to reposition
the engine stop cable outboard about 3/4", and plug the old hole with a
snap-in plastic button. It would be easier to just install the drive
with the clutch in the 10 o'clock position which is the way it is
installed on all the newer boats. I think that position is less
convenient to reach, and my wiring was already routed out the starboard
binnacle tube. Another reason to consider the 5 o'clock position is that
you will need to drill a hole in a tube and fish out the wire to the
drive unit. You might want to drill that hole into the empty tube on the
starboard side instead of taking a chance of tearing up an existing wire
in the port tube.
Room is tight in the binnacle tube, stuffing more wires up there is
tough to do.
The biggest pain is fabricating a mount for the rudder sensor. I've seen
a few good solutions. I can send some pictures of them to your email
address if you want.
Good luck.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Koen Bennebroek
To: C320-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: [C320-list] autopilot
I'm considering adding an autopilot to Big Cat. Most Catalina's I've
seen use the ST4000 or the MKII. It seems that both have been
discontinued and replaced by the S1.
Apart from the rudder transducer, is there a difference between the
models? Is there a reason to choose the S1 over the older models?
Also, how hard is the install? I assume all of this can be done while
the boat is in the water?
Thanks, Koen
(Big Cat, 1995, #224)
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:34:21 -0800
From: Len <aqua5len at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] autopilot
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Can only tell you my experience: My boat was delivered with the 4000
MkII which worked OK for a few months, then went a little screwy and
Catalina "corrected", then more problems, so finally Catalina got me a
new S1, took out the 4000 Mk II and installed the S1 with boat in water,
all at no cost to me. My understanding is there were some
insurmountable gliches and Raymarine bit the bullet on many 4000 Mk
II's------so I'd go only for the S1 which I love because it works with
nary a problem, and having the rudder position show is more useful than
you can imagine.
Len Krane
Aqua5 #1070
On 11/21/06, Koen Bennebroek <koen.bennebroek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm considering adding an autopilot to Big Cat. Most Catalina's I've
> seen use the ST4000 or the MKII. It seems that both have been
> discontinued and replaced by the S1.
> Apart from the rudder transducer, is there a difference between the
> models? Is there a reason to choose the S1 over the older models?
> Also, how hard is the install? I assume all of this can be done while
> the boat is in the water?
>
> Thanks, Koen
> (Big Cat, 1995, #224)
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:34:57 -0800
From: "Koen Bennebroek" <koen.bennebroek at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] autopilot
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Thanks Jeff. I guess the rudder sensor mount would only be needed for
the S1, right? I'm sure I can still get a 4000MKII somewhere. The
Raymarine website still has a price listed for it although it also says
discontinued.
They may be emptying out stock. I was just wondering if there were
compelling reasons to go either way, 4000 or S1.
I know that the tubing is tight as I have installed a chartplotter
myself. I replaced the pod housing with a bigger one. The chartplotter
connector from the gps antenna wouldn't fit through the tubing. All
installers I had asked told me upgrade to the bigger tubing. I believe I
have 1" now and most modern boats use 1.5" ? Will the wiring fit in the
1" tube?
Thanks, Koen
On 11/21/06, Jeff Church <jjemail at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Koen,
>
> I installed the MKII this spring, replacing a broken 4000+. I spoke to
> Raymarine about the S1. They said that the programming in the S1
> control head might be a little better, something like 5% better in a
following sea.
> That didn't seem to be worth the price, but I doubt that any of the
> usual boating outfits will have any 4000s in stock.
>
> As to the installation, since the wires and compass were already in
> place some of the work was already done for me, but there still was a
> lot of tweaking to do.
>
> The wheel drive did not fit without lowering the engine instrument
pod.
> That wasn't very difficult. Remove 2 nuts inside the pod, scrape away
> the caulk on the aft tube, slide the pod down an inch, drill 2 new
> holes in the back of the pod, caulk the old holes and re-caulk the
tube.
>
> If you want the clutch lever in the 5 o'clock position where it always
> used to be located, you will need to drill a new locator hole in the
> forward ring of the drive unit, drill a hole in the pod to reposition
> the engine stop cable outboard about 3/4", and plug the old hole with
> a snap-in plastic button. It would be easier to just install the drive
> with the clutch in the 10 o'clock position which is the way it is
installed on all the newer boats.
> I think that position is less convenient to reach, and my wiring was
> already routed out the starboard binnacle tube. Another reason to
> consider the 5 o'clock position is that you will need to drill a hole
> in a tube and fish out the wire to the drive unit. You might want to
> drill that hole into the empty tube on the starboard side instead of
> taking a chance of tearing up an existing wire in the port tube.
>
> Room is tight in the binnacle tube, stuffing more wires up there is
> tough to do.
>
> The biggest pain is fabricating a mount for the rudder sensor. I've
> seen a few good solutions. I can send some pictures of them to your
> email address if you want.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Koen Bennebroek
> To: C320-List
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:04 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] autopilot
>
>
> I'm considering adding an autopilot to Big Cat. Most Catalina's I've
> seen use the ST4000 or the MKII. It seems that both have been
> discontinued and replaced by the S1.
> Apart from the rudder transducer, is there a difference between the
> models? Is there a reason to choose the S1 over the older models?
> Also, how hard is the install? I assume all of this can be done while
> the boat is in the water?
>
> Thanks, Koen
> (Big Cat, 1995, #224)
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:37:37 -0800
From: "Koen Bennebroek" <koen.bennebroek at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] autopilot
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Len, what problems did you encounter with the 4000?
What do you mean by a little screwy?
Thanks, Koen
On 11/21/06, Len <aqua5len at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can only tell you my experience: My boat was delivered with the 4000
> MkII which worked OK for a few months, then went a little screwy and
> Catalina "corrected", then more problems, so finally Catalina got me a
> new S1, took out the 4000 Mk II and installed the S1 with boat in
> water, all at no cost to me. My understanding is there were some
> insurmountable gliches and Raymarine bit the bullet on many 4000 Mk
> II's------so I'd go only for the
> S1
> which I love because it works with nary a problem, and having the
> rudder position show is more useful than you can imagine.
>
> Len Krane
>
> Aqua5 #1070
>
>
> On 11/21/06, Koen Bennebroek <koen.bennebroek at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm considering adding an autopilot to Big Cat. Most Catalina's I've
> > seen use the ST4000 or the MKII. It seems that both have been
> > discontinued and replaced by the S1.
> > Apart from the rudder transducer, is there a difference between the
> > models? Is there a reason to choose the S1 over the older models?
> > Also, how hard is the install? I assume all of this can be done
> > while the boat is in the water?
> >
> > Thanks, Koen
> > (Big Cat, 1995, #224)
> >
> >
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:49:01 -0500
From: "Chris Holt" <oldman1030 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] autopilot
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Jeff,
I was wondering where do you find the snap in plastic button to plug the
engine kill hole.
I never know where to look for things like that when doing a project.
Another one I was wondering where to get was those "rubber things" that
you place in the hole that you have drilled in a tube to prevent the
edges from slicing the wire.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] autopilot
Koen,
I installed the MKII this spring, replacing a broken 4000+. I spoke to
Raymarine about the S1. They said that the programming in the S1 control
head might be a little better, something like 5% better in a following
sea.
That didn't seem to be worth the price, but I doubt that any of the
usual boating outfits will have any 4000s in stock.
As to the installation, since the wires and compass were already in
place some of the work was already done for me, but there still was a
lot of tweaking to do.
The wheel drive did not fit without lowering the engine instrument pod.
That wasn't very difficult. Remove 2 nuts inside the pod, scrape away
the caulk on the aft tube, slide the pod down an inch, drill 2 new holes
in the back of the pod, caulk the old holes and re-caulk the tube.
If you want the clutch lever in the 5 o'clock position where it always
used to be located, you will need to drill a new locator hole in the
forward ring of the drive unit, drill a hole in the pod to reposition
the engine stop cable outboard about 3/4", and plug the old hole with a
snap-in plastic button. It would be easier to just install the drive
with the clutch in the 10 o'clock position which is the way it is
installed on all the newer boats.
I think that position is less convenient to reach, and my wiring was
already routed out the starboard binnacle tube. Another reason to
consider the 5 o'clock position is that you will need to drill a hole in
a tube and fish out the wire to the drive unit. You might want to drill
that hole into the empty tube on the starboard side instead of taking a
chance of tearing up an existing wire in the port tube.
Room is tight in the binnacle tube, stuffing more wires up there is
tough to do.
The biggest pain is fabricating a mount for the rudder sensor. I've seen
a few good solutions. I can send some pictures of them to your email
address if you want.
Good luck.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Koen Bennebroek
To: C320-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: [C320-list] autopilot
I'm considering adding an autopilot to Big Cat. Most Catalina's I've
seen use the ST4000 or the MKII. It seems that both have been
discontinued and replaced by the S1.
Apart from the rudder transducer, is there a difference between the
models? Is there a reason to choose the S1 over the older models?
Also, how hard is the install? I assume all of this can be done while
the boat is in the water?
Thanks, Koen
(Big Cat, 1995, #224)
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:53:56 -0500
From: Scott Thompson <sthompson at toad.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] autopilot
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <45634B44.10903 at toad.net>
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Having the rudder position shown is indeed useful, but there are less
expensive ways to achieve that! I put a turks head on the wheel at the
spoke that is top dead center with the rudder straight ahead. This
gives me instant feedback on rudder position at all times. And it
definitely adds to the sense of nautical history of an otherwise very
modern boat.
That said, I would probably go for the newer model myself. I've been
disappointed in the ST4000+/Mk2, and suspect that the newer nav computer
likely would improve performance, as would the rudder sensor, as would
the (optional) gyro yaw rate sensor.
Len wrote:
> Can only tell you my experience: My boat was delivered with the 4000
MkII
> which worked OK for a few months, then went a little screwy and
Catalina
> "corrected", then more problems, so finally Catalina got me a new S1,
took
> out the 4000 Mk II and installed the S1 with boat in water, all at no
cost
> to me. My understanding is there were some insurmountable gliches and
> Raymarine bit the bullet on many 4000 Mk II's------so I'd go only for
> the S1
> which I love because it works with nary a problem, and having the
rudder
> position show is more useful than you can imagine.
>
> Len Krane
>
> Aqua5 #1070
>
>
> On 11/21/06, Koen Bennebroek <koen.bennebroek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm considering adding an autopilot to Big Cat. Most Catalina's I've
>> seen use the ST4000 or the MKII. It seems that both have been
>> discontinued and replaced by the S1.
>> Apart from the rudder transducer, is there a difference between the
>> models? Is there a reason to choose the S1 over the older models?
>> Also, how hard is the install? I assume all of this can be done while
>> the boat is in the water?
>>
>> Thanks, Koen
>> (Big Cat, 1995, #224)
>>
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:04:56 -0600
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] autopilot
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Guys,
1) The ST4000+ MKII comes with a rudder sensor.
2) West, Defender, and JRM only list the S1.
3) All of my wiring runs up one tube (except for the wheel drive power
cable), but it's a very tight fit.
4) I usually find things like the plastic button or rubber grommets at a
True Value Hardware.
5) I'd bet the S1 works best, but the MKII with rudder sensor is much
better than the old 4000+.
Jeff
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:56:52 -0500
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] autopilot
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Hi,
Mechanically, I don't believe there's any difference in the wheel drive
unit
between the S1 and the 4000+ packages. They both use the MKII drive unit
I
believe. The 4000+ could accept a rudder pos sensor, and also the
fancy
gyro unit as I recall from a discussion with the RayMarine dude at a
show.
So, if anyone has any info to the contrary, pass it along and we'll
figure
out what's really what...
-Jeff Hare
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Church [mailto:jjemail at comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:05 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] autopilot
Guys,
1) The ST4000+ MKII comes with a rudder sensor.
2) West, Defender, and JRM only list the S1.
3) All of my wiring runs up one tube (except for the wheel drive power
cable), but it's a very tight fit.
4) I usually find things like the plastic button or rubber grommets at a
True Value Hardware.
5) I'd bet the S1 works best, but the MKII with rudder sensor is much
better
than the old 4000+.
Jeff
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:02:44 EST
From: Niedobre at aol.com
Subject: [C320-list] Cockpit Table
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Has anyone installed a fixed table in their cockpit similiar to a table
that
is in a C387?
s/v Amara #731
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:11:48 -0800
From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Cockpit Table
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000901c70dc2$6c5b5590$5eb3fea9 at D53ZJN31>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I have not; that table would be in the way when sailing. However we
have
the Removable table from EDSON. It can swing down or be removed by
taking
out a simple pin. That is great. WE also have the extensions for it.
We
only have it up with the extensions when we are having a meal. What is
nice
that we had it on our C-30 for 6 years then now have it on out C-320 for
7.
Try this link. http://www.edsonmarine.com/sailcatalog/site/0046.html
Cheers,
?
Dick Walker
C-320 (687) WindWalker II
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Niedobre at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:03 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Cockpit Table
Has anyone installed a fixed table in their cockpit similiar to a table
that
is in a C387?
s/v Amara #731
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:26:49 EST
From: BAdams3491 at aol.com
Subject: [C320-list] Fwd: Cockpit Table
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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I have one of the white Edson Poly Fold Down Tables. They are also
very
easy to remove if you want to. In fact, I only put mine on when I need
it.
Bert
At Ease
#442
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:20:24 -0800
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mainsheet
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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It's the one with the brilliant article about broaching. It is dated
November, 2006 and has a picture of a boat on the cover.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of mtpoodles
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:49 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: [C320-list] Mainsheet
Just curious: what is the most recent Mainsheet issue? Why do I
suspect I've somehow been dropped from the mailing list for Mainsheet?
Marshall & Diane Lucas and
The Merrythought Poodles
S/V Merrythought, C320, #1037
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:33:19 -0800
From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Cockpit Table
To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Why would u want to?!
How would you move around the cockpit?
------Original Message------
From: Niedobre
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ReplyTo: Catalina 320 List
Sent: Nov 21, 2006 3:02 PM
Subject: [C320-list] Cockpit Table
[Sent by: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com ]
Has anyone installed a fixed table in their cockpit similiar to a table
that
is in a C387?
s/v Amara #731
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:00:02 -0800
From: "Denny Browne" <dennybrowne at verizon.net>
Subject: [C320-list] ATN Tacker or Parrel Beads?
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I have an ATN Tacker on my asymmetrical spinnaker, but I damaged it and
may
need to replace it. I find that it doesn?t slide easily when loaded
sometimes suggesting it may simply be too small for my 150 Genoa with a
foam
luff, so I?m considering the Parrel Beads option. Being too cheap to pay
Neil Pryde $45, I?m thinking of making my own by drilling out some 2?
nylon
balls (which I have yet to find) and threading a piece ?? spectra line
with
an eye splice in each end. I know, the labor I?ll have in the job will
vastly exceed the $45 from Neil Pryde, but after I waste a few nylon
balls
and pieces of spectra, I figure I?ll be smarter for it and I?ll have a
lighter weight solution than any I?ve found so far. Has anyone out there
tried Parrel Beads instead of the ATN Tacker? Wood, plastic or nylon?
How do
you like it?
Denny Browne
A Cappella #935
Redondo Beach
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:49:28 +0000
From: jonvez at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Diesel Spill/Odor
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Lamar,
As someone who did experience a fuel tank leak this summer, I can tell
you it can be tough to isolate where the fuel came from and get it all
out of the boat--
One way to ensure it is not the fuel tank is to take a couple of the 3M
bilge absorber pads and lay them in front of the fuel tank. Place them
just aft of the water tank and so they are just in front of the fuel
tank. My leak was very sporadic so I kept trying to convince myself it
wasn't the tank and it took me a while to verify it was a pinhole in the
weld.
The only way I got the spilled fuel out was to cut up pieces of bilge
absorber and stuff them in the areas I could not get to...kept replacing
and eventually all the fuel was removed. Once the fuel was out of the
boat, I didn't have any problem with lingering odors...
Good luck...
Regards,
Jon Vez
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Lamar Desmond" <ldesmond at comcast.net>
> After my marina winterized (including changing fuel filters and
topping off
> my tank) and hauled my boat I found diesel in the bilge. The marina
cleaned
> the bilge and around the engine but I really can't really figure out
where
> the fuel came from. I found a little water when I put my finger in the
hole
> where the aft water tank line runs but no sign of fuel. I can't see
anything
> around the fuel tank so I'm hoping it was from the filter change. The
> filter is just above a conduit that the water line runs into on its
way to
> the galley. I can't really see where this conduit ends, even with the
> galley drawers removed.
>
> I still have a strong diesel smell and found more fuel when I put my
finger
> in the aft limber hole of the bilge leading toward the engine. It
looks
> like if I pull up the floor I can get a little further aft but the
area
> under the floor at the base of the steps looks impossible to get to?
>
> Anyone been through this kind of cleanup; is it worth pulling up the
floor
> does it give any further access. Any good products to cut the smell, I
saw
> reference to Capt. Chomp in the archive.
>
> Thanks for any advise,
> Lamar Desmond
> C-320 #358
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:06:26 -0500 (EST)
From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
Subject: [C320-list] FW: Re: Mainsheet
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Is that "brilliant" in the eye of the beholder??
Seriously, Adam, THANKS for taking the time to write an article.
Very interesting and much appreciated.
Karl Mielenhausen
2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
New Bern, NC
http://pages.suddenlink.net/kmielen/
From: Adam Weiner [mailto: esquirecatering at rcn.com]
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:20:24 -0800
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mainsheet
It's the one with the brilliant article about broaching. It is
datedNovember, 2006 and has a picture of a boat on the
cover.Adam-----Original Message-----From:
c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.o
rg] On Behalf Of mtpoodlesSent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:49 PMTo:
C320-ListSubject: [C320-list] MainsheetJust curious: what is the most
recent Mainsheet issue? Why do Isuspect I've somehow been dropped from
the mailing list for Mainsheet?Marshall & Diane Lucas andThe
Merrythought PoodlesS/V Merrythought, C320, #1037-
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