[C320-list] loose rudder post

[Peter Clancy]

Chris ...... Did you just replace the entire rudder to solve the problem? Or, did you have to do anything else? Did you get a replacement rudder from Catalina? Cost? Thanks.

Peter Clancy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Burti<mailto:cburti at yahoo.com> 
  To: C320-List<mailto:c320-list at catalina320.com> 
  Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [C320-list] loose rudder post


  This sounds like your rudder is bent back from a hard grounding. If your tube is sound and the rudder is not binding, you are probably OK. I had to replace mine last year because it bent 4" out of plumb laterally and was binding in the tube from the tube kinking a little as well.

  You really can't repair it without cutting and sleeving it. The stainless pipe work hardens from bending and trying to rebend it will make it brittle if it doesn't break.
   
  Chris Burti
  "Commitment"
  Catalina 320, #867, 
  Farmville, NC


  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Peter Clancy <SAILORPETE at msn.com<mailto:SAILORPETE at msn.com>>
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  Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:56:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [C320-list] loose rudder post


  Re Rudder Post ........  My 1995 C320 also exhibited a slight bit of play when I pushed it back and forth. I don't think this is significant. We also made a visual check to see if it was in line with the keel (it was) and square to the waterline (appeared to be). I then turned the wheel lock to lock several times while an engineer friend sighted the rudder as it turned from directly behind the boat. We also looked down from the top leading edge of the rudder as it turned. We discovered about 4" of side-to-side movement at the base of the rudder. That is, the 'fulcrum point' at the bottom of the rudder should have remained stationary as the rudder turned. It did not. I don't know if this is normal or whether there is a slight bend or warp somewhere in the rudder post. Any thoughts? Still trying to find out if our boats have a rudder bearing or just a fiberglass shaft in which the rudder turns.

  Peter Clancy
  AROBAN  C320  #222
  Miami, FL
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    From: Jeff Church<mailto:jjemail at comcast.net<mailto:jjemail at comcast.net>> 
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    Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:17 PM
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    Larry,

    Good question. Mine moves maybe 3/32" but I didn't think that was a problem and the Catalina broker's technician told me not to be concerned about it. I checked a few others in the yard. Some have almost no play and some move more than mine. 

    JeffC
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      From: WindSwept 
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      Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:43 PM
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      What is the symptom that indicates a need to shim the rudder post?

      Larry
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      From: "Chris Burti" <cburti at yahoo.com<mailto:cburti at yahoo.com<mailto:cburti at yahoo.com<mailto:cburti at yahoo.com>>>
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      Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 5:41 AM
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      This is essentially the recommended solution often used on older 
      boats...except we used milk bottles or 2 liter soft drink bottles (better 
      price-same properties). My old Cal is still fine and it has been about 5 
      years now since I shimmed her rudder post.

      Chris Burti
      "Commitment"
      Catalina 320, #867,
      Farmville, NC


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      From: STINKIN GRINGO <bousum at webtv.net<mailto:bousum at webtv.net<mailto:bousum at webtv.net<mailto:bousum at webtv.net>>>
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      Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2006 8:06:09 PM
      Subject: Re: [C320-list] loose rudder post


      Today I dropped the rudder 8 inches and put two strips of UHMW tape 1/2"
      wide by 5-6 inches long up the post with the sticky side towards the
      fiberglass . This took out all the slop, time will tell how long it will
      last.It took less than and hour.I was going to machine two thin wall
      bearings and grind out the tube and glue them in . But the shimming
      method was simple so we will give it a whirl, I will let the list know
      how it goes. You can buy UHMW tape at APS. Ken #711 going to vegas
      tomarrow to spend the money I saved.