[C320-list] Anchor & chain size?

[Chris Holt]

Whether or not those videos are valid full all around anchoring tests or not
doesn't really matter.
It only matters in the sense of overall comparison between the anchors.  If
you forget that part of the video it is still effective in demostrating what
the most important message is, which is that the new anchor designs do set
very fast and have very good holding power.  They are definitely worth
considering over the more traditional anchors.

I also agree with you and it is proven that chain is good.  The only thing
with chain is it is heavy.  As is with all things in life there is a trade
off.  In this case between weight/price and effectiveness.

Russ,

Did your new boat come with a windlass that can deal with chain?

Chris #447

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <russgm at yahoo.com>
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Anchor & chain size?


> Stan-
> Here is the PS article, there was also a follow up in April on anchors...I 
> don't think any reasonably intelligent person could confuse those Rocna 
> videos with a valid anchoring test either!  BUt nonetheless I have read 
> failry positive things, on my new C387 I went with 150' of chain and a 45# 
> Spade you cannot make a mistake with a Spade, it was the first of the "New 
> generation" and is tried and true.  It sets easy, it holds very well, and 
> resets well if required.  As you can see I am also a fan of chain, 
> whatever you got, chain makes it better.
> -russ
>
> Stanley Rogacevicz <SROGACEV at holycross.edu> wrote: Russ,
>   I haven't seen any PS articles in quite a while since the ones that
> gave the Bruce fairly high marks on setting but I don't recall their
> ranking on Holding. As for Holding the 6 years with a Bruce 33 on the
> c320 is a bit oversized and I gave it a quite a few wind shift tests but
> never really gave it much of a high (over 15kt) test. But - my NC 331
> came with a Bruce 33 knockoff which I think is a bit undersized for the
> high windage 18,000 lbs of a pilothouse (44 would be better). On my
> delivery from Annapolis to NGBay I gave it a couple pretty good tests at
> 15-20kts  with a good fetch creating waves that kept me up most of the
> night and another 10-15kts night with no wave fetch but a 180 degree
> wind shift through the night. No Problems. Although 7 cruising years in
> the NE is only 1/2 the anchoring time in the south I'm still  at %100
> satisfaction so what else can I say - except I still think the Rocna
> video is tainted somehow because it's easy enough to do.
> Stan
>
>>>> "russgm at yahoo.com"  9/12/2006 9:14 AM >>>
> Stan-
> WHen I ought my new boat I did a TON of anchor research, I concluded
> that although the Bruce sets very well, it does not hold particularly
> well.  Have you seen the Practical Sailor articles?  As my other post on
> the this subject indicates I went with a Spade, but have sights on a
> Manson Supreme.
> -russ
>
> Stanley Rogacevicz  wrote:    The Rocna may
> very well be a good anchor but I think their streaming
> video is BS. I think the only way you could make a Bruce not set like
> that is if the 'beach' they used was a concrete slab with a little
> sand
> dumped on the sections used for the 'other' anchors. For the past 7
> years a Bruce 33 has set instantly in all bottoms, in 7-40' of water,
> and held/reset in 180 and even 360 degree wind shifts for me. I like a
> rope rode but if the wind is high or I have  to under scope in a
> crowded
> anchorage I use 1 or more 15 lb. mushrooms as a sentinel that I slide
> down the rode on a separate line.
> Stan
> formerly "Christy Leigh"
> c320 #656
> Wickford/Narragansett Bay RI
>
>>>> "Bryan Campbell"  9/11/2006 5:06 PM >>>
> Check out the "next generation" of anchors at www.rocna.com/.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Timothy Grennan
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 3:57 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Anchor & chain size?
>
>
> Hi,
>  I have a 15 kg (33 lb.) bruce which is the pattern that the claw is
> made
> from. I also use 20 ft. of 5/16" HT chain and  200 ft. of 5/8" nylon
> rode. I
> cruise in the great lakes and this anchor has served me very well.
>
>
>  Tim G.
>
> jpmesa at aol.com wrote:
>  I'm getting ready to upgrade my main anchor & chain and would like
> to
> get
> some feed back on what the 320 group is using? I was thinking about a
> 30-33
> lb Claw (type)? I like to go one anchor size up. But would love to
> hear
> from
> others out there. JOHN
>
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