[C320-list] BoatUS Group membership
Russ Monaco
russgm at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 15 06:38:44 PDT 2007
Mike/All-
I saw your recent note about C320IA BoatUS group membership. I went thru the same thing last year, and I just found a scrap of paper from last year and it had these notes on it. I am certain a call to would straighten the matter out.
BoatUS
Group membership
(800)395-2628 ext.3568
Group:GA84113B
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: exhaust mixing elbows (jonvez at comcast.net)
2. Re: exhaust mixing elbows (Richard A. Walker)
3. Re: Stanchion Issue-Ideas? (allan.field at comcast.net)
4. Re: Stanchion Issue-Ideas? (Kirk McCullough)
5. Re: Stanchion Issue-Ideas? (Kirk McCullough)
6. Re: Dinghies anyone? (Jeff Church)
7. Speaking about insurance (Arthur Freedman)
8. Best way from NJ to NH (Robert Seastream)
9. Re: Stanchion Issue-Ideas? (Robert Seastream)
10. Re: Sail slides (Irv Grunes)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:03:29 +0000
From: jonvez at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbows
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID:
<041420072303.22506.46215DC1000A1AE0000057EA2200762194960A90020106 at comcast.net>
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Bruce,
Not a dumb question at all. Since the elbow that Catalina custom made on my boat is a single piece, the first time I replace the elbow I have to replace all three. Once this is done I will only have to worry about the part downstream from the water as you suggest. For a long time I thought I was the one missing something when I tried to get a 'stock' elbow only to realize that it was unique to my boat. I haven't found any other hulls that have this custom elbow yet. I will post a picture when I get a chance...
Regards,
Jon
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Bruce Heyman" <BruceHeyman at cox.net>
> Jon,
> Not an expert on this yet so sorry for the dumb questions. Why do you have
> to replace all three parts? Usually the problems on marine engines are with
> the part that handles the injection of the water to the exhaust. The things
> upstream of that should remain free from everything but carbon build up. Am
> I missing something?
> Bruce
> Somerset 671 SoCal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of jonvez at comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:52 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbows
>
> Dick,
>
> It sounds like you may have only replaced the elbow--$440 sounds about right
> for all three pieces--the riser, the turning collar and the elbow itself...I
> plan on doing this as well and have priced these pieces out with several
> vendors.
> The one concern I have is alignment. Mine is one of the boats that came with
> a custom fabricated exhaust/mixing elbow. Although the collar lets you turn
> the piece that connects to the hose/muffler, it's the angle that concerns me
> a bit....anyone have a similar set up?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Vez
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Richard A. Walker"
>
> > Recommend you replace it. The manual indicates 6 years. I am changing
> > mine. It is the last thing you need to stark leaking 70 miles from home.
> >
> > Mine cost $145 for part 11930535150 from PACWEST Marine 619.222.9712
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dick Walker
> > C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> > 740 Olive Ave.
> > Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> > 619.435.8986
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of STINKIN GRINGO
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:44 PM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbows
> >
> > I was thinking of replacing all 3 pieces of the mixing elbow this spring
> > just for the fun of it before something happens.But the price from my
> > dealer is $440.00 is that the going rate just for the parts? I have the
> > 3GM30 with 500 hours just have a little rust around one of the
> > joints.Any thoughts other than if it ain't broke don't fix it. Thanks
> > Ken #711
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:37:06 -0700
From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbows
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000901c77eed$d0dcf900$5eb3fea9 at D53ZJN31>
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I do not understand the "Custom Made" part. The elbow is a standard Yanmar
part. Jon are you the first owner?
Cheers,
?
Dick Walker
C-320 (687) WindWalker II
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of jonvez at comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 4:03 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbows
Bruce,
Not a dumb question at all. Since the elbow that Catalina custom made on my
boat is a single piece, the first time I replace the elbow I have to replace
all three. Once this is done I will only have to worry about the part
downstream from the water as you suggest. For a long time I thought I was
the one missing something when I tried to get a 'stock' elbow only to
realize that it was unique to my boat. I haven't found any other hulls that
have this custom elbow yet. I will post a picture when I get a chance...
Regards,
Jon
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Bruce Heyman" <BruceHeyman at cox.net>
> Jon,
> Not an expert on this yet so sorry for the dumb questions. Why do you have
> to replace all three parts? Usually the problems on marine engines are
with
> the part that handles the injection of the water to the exhaust. The
things
> upstream of that should remain free from everything but carbon build up.
Am
> I missing something?
> Bruce
> Somerset 671 SoCal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of jonvez at comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:52 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbows
>
> Dick,
>
> It sounds like you may have only replaced the elbow--$440 sounds about
right
> for all three pieces--the riser, the turning collar and the elbow
itself...I
> plan on doing this as well and have priced these pieces out with several
> vendors.
> The one concern I have is alignment. Mine is one of the boats that came
with
> a custom fabricated exhaust/mixing elbow. Although the collar lets you
turn
> the piece that connects to the hose/muffler, it's the angle that concerns
me
> a bit....anyone have a similar set up?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Vez
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Richard A. Walker"
>
> > Recommend you replace it. The manual indicates 6 years. I am changing
> > mine. It is the last thing you need to stark leaking 70 miles from home.
> >
> > Mine cost $145 for part 11930535150 from PACWEST Marine 619.222.9712
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dick Walker
> > C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> > 740 Olive Ave.
> > Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> > 619.435.8986
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of STINKIN GRINGO
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:44 PM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbows
> >
> > I was thinking of replacing all 3 pieces of the mixing elbow this spring
> > just for the fun of it before something happens.But the price from my
> > dealer is $440.00 is that the going rate just for the parts? I have the
> > 3GM30 with 500 hours just have a little rust around one of the
> > joints.Any thoughts other than if it ain't broke don't fix it. Thanks
> > Ken #711
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:42:28 +0000
From: allan.field at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain
Better be careful with making insurance claims - one claim can get you canceled.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
> My gosh, I actually did something helpful! I hope the success doesn't
> go to my head.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk McCullough
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:56 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>
>
> Thanks Adam, I'll call my agent. I didn't even think that it might be
> covered.
>
> Kirk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Weiner"
> To: "'C320-List'"
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>
>
> > That should be covered by your insurance.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> > McCullough
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:14 AM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
> >
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > I would be interested in what you find regarding welding vs replacing.
>
> > I
> >
> > just had a little mishap and managed to break a stanchion right at the
>
> > base. It's a stanchion on the pulpit, starboard side
> >
> > Kirk McCullough
> > Boomerang #124
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To: "C320-List"
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
> >
> >
> >> Thank you all for your replies. Looks like I will start by trying to
> >> find a welder and determining whether it is worth having it done on
> >> the
> > boat or
> >> just taking it off--
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Jon Vez
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message --------------
> >> From: bruceheyman at cox.net
> >>
> >>> Jon,
> >>> You can get welders to come down to work on your boat but the cost
> >>> usually goes up rapidly that way. Also after they are done they
> >>> usually fille the
> > weld
> >>> down
> >>> and polish it so that it looks good. While SS is usually alow to
> >>> rust
> > the
> >>> little filing if not removed will rust rapidly and stain the fiber
> > glass.
> >>>
> >>> To "fit into our slip" we had to take the pulpit of and bring it to
> >>> a fabricator to have it shortened. It was not a very hard job, in
> >>> fact it was
> > easier
> >>> than
> >>> doing one of the stand alone stachions. Hbopefully the Pushpit is
> > similar
> >>> (?) In
> >>> that there are plates in the fiberglass with threaded holes so there
> > are
> >>> no
> >>> dificult (i.e., impossible) to reach nuts.
> >>> The wires are usually much longer than they need to be so you just
> > cut
> >>> them and
> >>> used crimp connectors to re-attach when you get it back. Best if you
> > use
> >>> a
> >>> marine connector asd they usually have heat shring seals with an
> >>> adheasive toi help make the connection water tight.
> >>> I wonder if your weld is failing because it was not made right or if
> > it
> >>> is under
> >>> a lot of stress? If the later you may want to very carefully measure
> > the
> >>> distance between the bases where they attach to the boat before you
> >>> remove it and ask the welder to try to match.
> >>> Good luck.
> >>> Bruce
> >>> Somerset 671 SoCal
> >>> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: jonvez at comcast.net
> >>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:35:45 To:C320-List at catalina320.com (320
> >>> List)
> >>> Subject: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
> >>>
> >>> I'm hoping someone can offer an alternative to what I'm afraid the
> >>> answer will
> >>> be to this problem: I noticed that one of the aft stanchion's weld
> > has
> >>> begun
> >>> parting from the base. About a quarter of the circumfrance has
> > parted. It
> >>> is the
> >>> starboard stanchion that is closest to the boarding ladder.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know a a way of addressing this without removing the
> >>> entire starboard side pushpit setup and of course the added
> >>> complication of the stern light wiring? If I have it spot welded in
> >>> place I believe I will have goo for a stern section...any ideas
> >>> would be greatly appreciated--
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Jon Vez
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date:
> > 4/10/2007
> >> 10:44 PM
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.3.0/758 - Release Date:
> 4/12/2007
> > 11:52 AM
> >
> >
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:46:41 -0700
From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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reply-type=original
I'm sure someone will say it did go to your head, but anyway thanks very
much for the input Adam.
Kirk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
> My gosh, I actually did something helpful! I hope the success doesn't
> go to my head.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk McCullough
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:56 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>
>
> Thanks Adam, I'll call my agent. I didn't even think that it might be
> covered.
>
> Kirk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
> To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>
>
>> That should be covered by your insurance.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>> McCullough
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:14 AM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> I would be interested in what you find regarding welding vs replacing.
>
>> I
>>
>> just had a little mishap and managed to break a stanchion right at the
>
>> base. It's a stanchion on the pulpit, starboard side
>>
>> Kirk McCullough
>> Boomerang #124
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>>
>>
>>> Thank you all for your replies. Looks like I will start by trying to
>>> find a welder and determining whether it is worth having it done on
>>> the
>> boat or
>>> just taking it off--
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jon Vez
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>> From: bruceheyman at cox.net
>>>
>>>> Jon,
>>>> You can get welders to come down to work on your boat but the cost
>>>> usually goes up rapidly that way. Also after they are done they
>>>> usually fille the
>> weld
>>>> down
>>>> and polish it so that it looks good. While SS is usually alow to
>>>> rust
>> the
>>>> little filing if not removed will rust rapidly and stain the fiber
>> glass.
>>>>
>>>> To "fit into our slip" we had to take the pulpit of and bring it to
>>>> a fabricator to have it shortened. It was not a very hard job, in
>>>> fact it was
>> easier
>>>> than
>>>> doing one of the stand alone stachions. Hbopefully the Pushpit is
>> similar
>>>> (?) In
>>>> that there are plates in the fiberglass with threaded holes so there
>> are
>>>> no
>>>> dificult (i.e., impossible) to reach nuts.
>>>> The wires are usually much longer than they need to be so you just
>> cut
>>>> them and
>>>> used crimp connectors to re-attach when you get it back. Best if you
>> use
>>>> a
>>>> marine connector asd they usually have heat shring seals with an
>>>> adheasive toi help make the connection water tight.
>>>> I wonder if your weld is failing because it was not made right or if
>> it
>>>> is under
>>>> a lot of stress? If the later you may want to very carefully measure
>> the
>>>> distance between the bases where they attach to the boat before you
>>>> remove it and ask the welder to try to match.
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> Bruce
>>>> Somerset 671 SoCal
>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jonvez at comcast.net
>>>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:35:45 To:C320-List at catalina320.com (320
>>>> List)
>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping someone can offer an alternative to what I'm afraid the
>>>> answer will
>>>> be to this problem: I noticed that one of the aft stanchion's weld
>> has
>>>> begun
>>>> parting from the base. About a quarter of the circumfrance has
>> parted. It
>>>> is the
>>>> starboard stanchion that is closest to the boarding ladder.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know a a way of addressing this without removing the
>>>> entire starboard side pushpit setup and of course the added
>>>> complication of the stern light wiring? If I have it spot welded in
>>>> place I believe I will have goo for a stern section...any ideas
>>>> would be greatly appreciated--
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jon Vez
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date:
>> 4/10/2007
>>> 10:44 PM
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.3.0/758 - Release Date:
> 4/12/2007
>> 11:52 AM
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/761 - Release Date: 4/14/2007
> 9:36 PM
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:26:44 -0700
From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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reply-type=original
Well in 14 years without a claim with this insurer, they can cancel me if
they want. I probably need a good reason to shop for insurance anyway.
----- Original Message -----
From: <allan.field at comcast.net>
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
> Better be careful with making insurance claims - one claim can get you
> canceled.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
>
>> My gosh, I actually did something helpful! I hope the success doesn't
>> go to my head.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk McCullough
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:56 AM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>>
>>
>> Thanks Adam, I'll call my agent. I didn't even think that it might be
>> covered.
>>
>> Kirk
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Adam Weiner"
>> To: "'C320-List'"
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>>
>>
>> > That should be covered by your insurance.
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>> > McCullough
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:14 AM
>> > To: C320-List
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>> >
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> > I would be interested in what you find regarding welding vs replacing.
>>
>> > I
>> >
>> > just had a little mishap and managed to break a stanchion right at the
>>
>> > base. It's a stanchion on the pulpit, starboard side
>> >
>> > Kirk McCullough
>> > Boomerang #124
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From:
>> > To: "C320-List"
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:55 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thank you all for your replies. Looks like I will start by trying to
>> >> find a welder and determining whether it is worth having it done on
>> >> the
>> > boat or
>> >> just taking it off--
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Jon Vez
>> >>
>> >> -------------- Original message --------------
>> >> From: bruceheyman at cox.net
>> >>
>> >>> Jon,
>> >>> You can get welders to come down to work on your boat but the cost
>> >>> usually goes up rapidly that way. Also after they are done they
>> >>> usually fille the
>> > weld
>> >>> down
>> >>> and polish it so that it looks good. While SS is usually alow to
>> >>> rust
>> > the
>> >>> little filing if not removed will rust rapidly and stain the fiber
>> > glass.
>> >>>
>> >>> To "fit into our slip" we had to take the pulpit of and bring it to
>> >>> a fabricator to have it shortened. It was not a very hard job, in
>> >>> fact it was
>> > easier
>> >>> than
>> >>> doing one of the stand alone stachions. Hbopefully the Pushpit is
>> > similar
>> >>> (?) In
>> >>> that there are plates in the fiberglass with threaded holes so there
>> > are
>> >>> no
>> >>> dificult (i.e., impossible) to reach nuts.
>> >>> The wires are usually much longer than they need to be so you just
>> > cut
>> >>> them and
>> >>> used crimp connectors to re-attach when you get it back. Best if you
>> > use
>> >>> a
>> >>> marine connector asd they usually have heat shring seals with an
>> >>> adheasive toi help make the connection water tight.
>> >>> I wonder if your weld is failing because it was not made right or if
>> > it
>> >>> is under
>> >>> a lot of stress? If the later you may want to very carefully measure
>> > the
>> >>> distance between the bases where they attach to the boat before you
>> >>> remove it and ask the welder to try to match.
>> >>> Good luck.
>> >>> Bruce
>> >>> Somerset 671 SoCal
>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: jonvez at comcast.net
>> >>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:35:45 To:C320-List at catalina320.com (320
>> >>> List)
>> >>> Subject: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm hoping someone can offer an alternative to what I'm afraid the
>> >>> answer will
>> >>> be to this problem: I noticed that one of the aft stanchion's weld
>> > has
>> >>> begun
>> >>> parting from the base. About a quarter of the circumfrance has
>> > parted. It
>> >>> is the
>> >>> starboard stanchion that is closest to the boarding ladder.
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone know a a way of addressing this without removing the
>> >>> entire starboard side pushpit setup and of course the added
>> >>> complication of the stern light wiring? If I have it spot welded in
>> >>> place I believe I will have goo for a stern section...any ideas
>> >>> would be greatly appreciated--
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Jon Vez
>> >>
>> >>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:52:00 -0500
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dinghies anyone?
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <008e01c77ef8$472b7cd0$6501a8c0 at JCJG1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
FYI,
I did a little shopping and found a Suzuki 2.5hp that is water cooled (quiet) and weighs 30 pounds. That's only 2 pounds more than the 2hp Honda, and I can buy it locally for $215 less than the Honda.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Heyman
To: 'C320-List'
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dinghies anyone?
Jeff,
Louder, yes however "very loud" I would suggest is a salesman's miss
characterization.
Out here in CA the engine is doing really well since it is illegal to sell
two strokes. I did by a one gallon fuel tank with the auto fill top. We
keep it in the dinghy when we go off exploring. It is seldom needed as the
engine is very miserly with fuel unless you are running it flat out. With
our setup the last 1/4 of throttle just seems to increase the noise and fuel
consumption with out a significant increase in speed.
Bruce
Somerset 671 SoCal
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:16 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dinghies anyone?
Bruce,
I'm considering the Honda 2hp engine or a heavier Tohatsu 3.5. At Strictly
Sail a Tohatsu salesman told me that the Honda would be very loud because it
is air cooled. Does it seem louder than other small outboards?
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Heyman
To: 'C320-List'
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dinghies anyone?
JeffC,
We have the Honda 2 hp and I believe it comes in at 27 or 28#'s. Very
easy
to lift up to the rail. Also small enough that you could probably store
it
in the bottom of the port lazaret. That said we usually leave it on the
dinghy up on the davits.
Bruce
Somerset 671 SoCal
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:48 PM
To: catalina at thehares.com; C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dinghys anyone?
JeffH,
It looks like you found a very good deal at $999 for a Zoom 310. I'd
caution
that iBoats prices aren't always the best. Their current "truckload sale"
price for the 2006 Zoom 310 Aero isn't a great a deal. After you add a
seat
(optional on a 2006 Zoom, standard in 2007), you save less than 10% off
the
price of the 2007. Not what you'd expect for old stock/clearance prices. I
shopped for a Zodiac last fall and bought a 2007 Zoom 260 Aero locally for
$1399. iBoats lists it for $1550. After taxes, iBoats is about $60 more
expensive than the local guy.
Now I need a good price on a 2 to 3.5 hp outboard. More importantly, I
need
a clever way to hang the motor somewhere low on the transom of the 320. I
don't like the idea of lifting it to the usual position at the top of the
stern rail.
JeffC
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey Hare
To: 'C320-List'
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:43 PM
Subject: [C320-list] Dinghys anyone?
Hi All,
We were in the market for a new(-ish) dinghy recently. I happened
across
a
sale at iboats.com.
They're selling NEW 2006 Zodiac Zoom 310S for $999.00 with free shipping
in
the Cont. US.
It's 10'2" with wood floor, inflatable keel and 16" tubes. MSRP is
over
$1600.
Seemed like a good deal so I bought one. Hope it floats now...
-JeffH
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:56:58 -0400
From: Arthur Freedman <saltyvet at mindspring.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Speaking about insurance
To: C-320 List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <145EDB05-6BF4-435B-AF28-502AD1B90AC8 at mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Since a comment was made about making an insurance claim. I would
like to relate my very positive experience with
Chubb Insurance. In late October this past fall there was a
hurricane intensity no-name storn. The bare anchor roller cut the
dual pennants
at the mooring, and as a result my C310, Ivy Girl, ended up on the
beach. I did manage to keep the the boat off the seawall by
putting out
a 33 LB claw anchor at low tide just after the beaching. I spoke
with the local Boat U.S. tow affiliate then called Chubb.
They worked out the finances to have Ivy Girl taken off the beach by
the local Boat U.S. tow affiliate as well as contacting my local yard.
Chubb assigned a surveyor, and worked with the yard to asses the
damage. Chubb did not question the estimate of $38,000, and sent a
down payment to the yard so repairs would started immediately. The
assigned surveyor kept close watch on the repairs, as did I.
Ivy Girl was repaired over the winter, and Chubb sent the final
payment last week after the okay by the surveyor.
I paid the annual boat insurance policy in November when it was due.
I have had prior Claims with Chubb
regarding personal property, and they were very quick to cover my
losses. I do pay more for boat and home insurance coverage with
Chubb, but the extra premium is well worth it after hearing bad
experience with claims with lower cost policies.
Art Freedman
Ivy Girl, "C310"
Hawthorne Animal Health Care
saltyvet at mindspring.com
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:11:08 -0400
From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Best way from NJ to NH
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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All:
This isn't about a Catalina so please forgive me, but it is about
sailing and I need advice.
Late this August, I have to bring my fathers boat (1984 Cape Dory 28),
hull speed 6 knots, from Barnegat, NJ to Portsmouth, NH. I figure it's
about 325 miles; I could be corrected. I've got 9 days to do this,
which includes two days of road travel, so only 7 on water days. Slim,
but possible.
I need input on what's the quickest/best way; go through the Long
Island Sound, or go up the outside of Long Island? Marina info would
be appreciated as well 'cause we're going to have to 'marina hop'.
Bob Seastream
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:34:02 -0400
From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <e2d3e426b607e87a65271138940b86f3 at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
I took a two week cruise last year; on return found my dinghys 8 hp
Honda (3 mo old) stolen. Filed a claim with Boat US per their
instructions, got a check a couple weeks later for $1900 (replacement
cost less $100 deductible). No rebukes, no cancellations. True, I
didn't get my 10% premium discount for this year because I wasn't
'incident free' last year, but that's fair enough.
Bob Seastream
'Intuition' hull 906
On Apr 14, 2007, at 8:26 PM, Kirk McCullough wrote:
> Well in 14 years without a claim with this insurer, they can cancel me
> if they want. I probably need a good reason to shop for insurance
> anyway.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <allan.field at comcast.net>
> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>
>
>> Better be careful with making insurance claims - one claim can get
>> you canceled.
>>
>> -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Adam Weiner"
>> <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
>>
>>> My gosh, I actually did something helpful! I hope the success doesn't
>>> go to my head.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>>> McCullough
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:56 AM
>>> To: C320-List
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Adam, I'll call my agent. I didn't even think that it might be
>>> covered.
>>>
>>> Kirk
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Weiner"
>>> To: "'C320-List'"
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>> > That should be covered by your insurance.
>>> >
>>> > Adam
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message----- > From:
>>> c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>>> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>>> > McCullough
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:14 AM
>>> > To: C320-List
>>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Jon
>>> >
>>> > I would be interested in what you find regarding welding vs
>>> replacing.
>>>
>>> > I
>>> >
>>> > just had a little mishap and managed to break a stanchion right at
>>> the
>>>
>>> > base. It's a stanchion on the pulpit, starboard side
>>> >
>>> > Kirk McCullough
>>> > Boomerang #124
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From:
>>> > To: "C320-List"
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:55 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Thank you all for your replies. Looks like I will start by trying
>>> to
>>> >> find a welder and determining whether it is worth having it done
>>> on
>>> >> the
>>> > boat or
>>> >> just taking it off-- >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Jon Vez
>>> >>
>>> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From:
>>> bruceheyman at cox.net
>>> >>
>>> >>> Jon,
>>> >>> You can get welders to come down to work on your boat but the
>>> cost
>>> >>> usually goes up rapidly that way. Also after they are done they
>>> >>> usually fille the
>>> > weld
>>> >>> down
>>> >>> and polish it so that it looks good. While SS is usually alow to
>>> >>> rust
>>> > the
>>> >>> little filing if not removed will rust rapidly and stain the
>>> fiber
>>> > glass.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> To "fit into our slip" we had to take the pulpit of and bring it
>>> to
>>> >>> a fabricator to have it shortened. It was not a very hard job, in
>>> >>> fact it was
>>> > easier
>>> >>> than
>>> >>> doing one of the stand alone stachions. Hbopefully the Pushpit is
>>> > similar
>>> >>> (?) In
>>> >>> that there are plates in the fiberglass with threaded holes so
>>> there
>>> > are
>>> >>> no
>>> >>> dificult (i.e., impossible) to reach nuts.
>>> >>> The wires are usually much longer than they need to be so you
>>> just
>>> > cut
>>> >>> them and
>>> >>> used crimp connectors to re-attach when you get it back. Best if
>>> you
>>> > use
>>> >>> a
>>> >>> marine connector asd they usually have heat shring seals with an
>>> >>> adheasive toi help make the connection water tight.
>>> >>> I wonder if your weld is failing because it was not made right
>>> or if
>>> > it
>>> >>> is under
>>> >>> a lot of stress? If the later you may want to very carefully
>>> measure
>>> > the
>>> >>> distance between the bases where they attach to the boat before
>>> you
>>> >>> remove it and ask the welder to try to match.
>>> >>> Good luck.
>>> >>> Bruce
>>> >>> Somerset 671 SoCal
>>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: jonvez at comcast.net
>>> >>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:35:45 To:C320-List at catalina320.com (320
>>> >>> List)
>>> >>> Subject: [C320-list] Stanchion Issue-Ideas?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm hoping someone can offer an alternative to what I'm afraid
>>> the
>>> >>> answer will
>>> >>> be to this problem: I noticed that one of the aft stanchion's
>>> weld
>>> > has
>>> >>> begun
>>> >>> parting from the base. About a quarter of the circumfrance has
>>> > parted. It
>>> >>> is the
>>> >>> starboard stanchion that is closest to the boarding ladder.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Does anyone know a a way of addressing this without removing the
>>> >>> entire starboard side pushpit setup and of course the added
>>> >>> complication of the stern light wiring? If I have it spot welded
>>> in
>>> >>> place I believe I will have goo for a stern section...any ideas
>>> >>> would be greatly appreciated-- >>>
>>> >>> Regards,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jon Vez
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>>> >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.2.0/756 - Release Date:
>>> > 4/10/2007
>>> >> 10:44 PM
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>>
>>>
>>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:34:32 -0400
From: "Irv Grunes" <igrunes at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Sail slides
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <BPEBLLKNAMIALJELAJDPIEFHDHAA.igrunes at comcast.net>
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Re SailCare
We had our 2001 OEM sail refurbished by sail care this winter. The sail
looks beautiful.
BUT
The sail shrunk. Today, I cut 3 inches off the bottom Batten, 2 Inches off
the next, and 1 inch off the next. The top batten sticks out a bit but I
left it.
I'll report on sail shape when next we sail.
Irv Grunes
2001, #851, Isle of Wight
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Dave Anderer
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 4:06 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: [C320-list] Sail slides
The sails on our '99 weren't in bad shape, but were somewhat
mildewed. The local loft washed them last winter and that didn't
impact the stains much.
This winter I sent them to Sail Care (http://www.sailcare.com/). I'm
normally skeptical of approaches like this, but I've had sails they
worked on before (done by the previous owner on my previous boat) and
the result were real good.
I got the sails back a couple weeks ago and went to bend them on
today. They look great. Sail Care also did a lot of work I didn't
know they'd do - replacing the velcro on the batten pockets and
replacing the headboard, for example. They also replaced all the
slides on the main with beautiful new articulating (SS?) slides.
Unfortunately, these new slides are the wrong size. They're too big
for the slot on the mast.
I expect Sail Care will handle this w/o problem, but I want to know
what the right kind of slides are. The manual suggests it is an
Isomat spar though it has a Charleston Spars sticker on the boom. The
likely Isomat candidates (http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/Isomat_Spars/
Isomat_Masts/isomat_Mast_Specs_&_Comp.html#Isomat_Mast_Sections) seem
to all specify "3/4" flat slides (A006M)".
Doing a quick web search for those turns up http://www.sail-
making.com/dbimgs/page78_79_80us.pdf, which says the A006M has a
waist of 3/8". The slot on the mast only measured 3/16" wide today,
so something isn't right.
So, what is the mast section on my boat, and what are the proper slides?
Thanks.
Dave
Meanderer II
#642
(For the curious, the new/wrong slides can be seen at http://udel.edu/
~danderer/sailcare.jpg)
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