[C320-list] asymetric spinnaker or genneker

[Allan Field]

She loves you too big guy!

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Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] asymetric spinnaker or genneker

They used a genneker on some of their downwind runs...you have prettier crew
Allan
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Allan Field" [Allan.Field at comcast.net]
Sent: 08/09/2007 05:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] asymetric spinnaker or genneker

Joe - The America's Cup boats don't use an A-Sym, correct? - Allan

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe Barrett
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] asymetric spinnaker or genneker

If you watched the America's Cup boats sail downwind they don't ease the
mainsail out all that much. Keeps the Asym
>From being blanketed by the mainsail.
Joe Barrett 

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allan.field at comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] asymetric spinnaker or genneker

Irv - We bought an A-Sym with snuffer and ATN from Walter Burnett when he
was selling Selkie.  This has been one of the greatest toys we have bought
for Sea Shadow.  With all rigging and blocks, figure to spend between 2K and
2.5K.

First off, you really can't go dead down wind (DDW) with an A-Sym.  For DDW
sailing, we have a pole mounted to the mast on a car that slides into
position to pole out the genoa.  We also took a trick from Orlando and his
new CM44 3 by rigging on both sides of the boat lines that attach to the
boom about 2/3 of the way aft.  They go forward to blocks mounted on the
forward cleats and lead back through blocks mounted to each stanchion to the
cockpit through blocks with cam cleats for tying down the boom when sailing
DDW.  Obviously, this is to prevent the accidental gybe.  We use these
preventers for anytime the apparent wind is below about 120 degrees.

We use the A-Sym in apparent winds of less than 12 knots for sailing
anywhere from 60 to about 160 degrees off the wind.  Up to 12 knots of wind,
Sea Shadow generally sails about 1/2 the speed of the apparent wind but with
the A-Sym up, she sails up to about 2/3 the speed of the apparent wind.
Rigging the A-Sym correctly so that you can gybe is tricky and quite
frankly, we have only had one successful gybe in about 5 tries.  The problem
is the way I have all the lines rigged; once I get them figured out
correctly and know that I can do it right everytime, I'll post something if
that would help.  For example, I have a nasty habit of leading the lazy
sheet around the headstay but under the downhaul for the ATN tacker.  Gybing
with this arrangement gets real ugly real fast!!!

A final thought: I have not done this yet but plan to reef the main when the
A.W. gets around that magic 160 degrees to see if that makes a difference in
the performance of the A-Sym.  Sea Shadow is rigged for 2 reefs on the main
so it will be interesting to see the results of this.

Hope this helps.

Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Irv Grunes" <igrunes at comcast.net> 

> 
> List,
> Last time we sailed the wind was dead douwn wind and our 135 Genoa 
> would not fill at anything better than 120 and it kept flopping when the
wind dropped.
> 
> Looking into an asymetric with a snuffer and a tacker. 
> 
> 1. What success has anyone had with this kind of system? 
> 
> 2. How close to dead downwind can you sail? 
> 
> 3. Is the system simple enough to deploy that you pull it out of the 
> bag often enough to make it worthwhile?
> 
> 4. Looking for dimensions of the asymetric, source and about how much 
> the asymetric cost.
> 
> Does anyone have one for sale?? 
> 
> Irv Grunes
> Isle of Wight #851
> 
> 
> 





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