[C320-list] Club Racing the C320

Tue Aug 28 06:24:58 PDT 2007

Pat, in order to lighten the load of course, you have to p*** off the stern,
right?

-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Pat Moriarty
Sent: August 28, 2007 9:23 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320

We say we drink during the race to lighten the load since the beer 
weights more than the cans which we have to take back to trash, since 
the lake probably already has one of the worlds largest aluminum 
deposits in the state. We beat a J105 on time during a 2 day race 
with very little wind both days. I don't think I was faster but had 
much better tactics thanks to my head being covered with the Bimini 
and cleared of useless thoughts by the beer consumed all day. Race 
was 25 miles each day. I think he sold the 105 the next week and 
moved off my dock due to embarrassment most likely.

Pat #130

At 08:08 AM 8/28/2007, you wrote:
>Beer after, also wine...but we carry the beer in cans to save weight.  
>That makes it a race boat in my book!
>
>Dave M
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com 
>[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Adam Weiner
>Sent: August 28, 2007 12:12 AM
>To: 'C320-List'
>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
>
>
>Nice.  That is true.  But if you were serious about racing, wouldn't 
>you buy a race boat?  Let's take it one step further:  is there beer 
>consumed before or during the race?
>
>Adam
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com 
>[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of pat reynolds
>Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:18 PM
>To: C320-List
>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
>
>
>All racing is serious!
>
>--- Adam Weiner <esquirecatering at rcn.com> wrote:
>
> > I only have one question:  If you want to race
> > seriously then what in
> > the hell are you doing with a Catalina 320?  Notice
> > I didn't respond to
> > the comment about me?
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com 
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
> > Thompson
> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:03 PM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
> >
> >
> > Because the rules are made by serious racers, and no serious racer 
> > wants
> >
> > a rule change that would generally make it better to
> > have a slower
> > sailing boat.  Few racers, even on San Francisco
> > Bay, share Adam's
> > rapture about the the benefits of using a fixed prop
> > as a brake!  The
> > rules are thus biased in favor of racing gear over
> > cruising gear, and no
> >
> > one believes that they equalize all boats.  If
> > that's what you are after
> >
> > switch to a strict one design class and get out of
> > PHRF.
> >
> > For what it's worth, I believe that folding props
> > are faster than
> > feathering ones, and if you really want to race successfully you 
> > will do
> >
> > better with a small two-bladed folder that folds
> > into a really compact
> > and streamlined package (e.g. the nicer Martec) than
> > with any other
> > prop.  On the other hand, if you are really that
> > serious about racing
> > then the 320 isn't a very good choice of boat in the
> > first place.  I
> > love to cruise my 320 and I love to race.  But I
> > race boats that are
> > designed for speed, not cruising comfort.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > chris denny wrote:
> > > If it is generally accepted that a folder is that
> > much of a benefit,
> > > why
> > > is the allowance for a fixed prop not greater? I
> > thought the idea was
> > to
> > > make things "equal".  Is 6 seconds the "standard
> > addition" for a fixed
> >
> > > prop?
> > > cd #328
> > > Peter Clancy wrote:
> > >
> > >> Casual racers may underestimate the value of
> > relatively small speed
> > >> improvements.
> > >>
> > >> For example, assume a course is 15 nautical miles
> > long. If you have a
> > >> modest 1/2 knot per mile speed advantage (with a
> > folding prop) over
> > an
> > >> identical boat with a fixed prop and you average
> > 6.5 knots, by the
> > >> time you reach the finish  you'll be at least 10
> > minutes ahead of the
> >
> > >> slower boat. If that boat has a 6 second per mile
> > rating advantage
> > due
> > >> to a fixed prop, he only gains 90 seconds or 1.5
> > minutes when
> > >> corrected. Generally speaking, the lighter the
> > air, the greater the
> > >> benefit of a folding prop. We raced 'AROBAN'
> > successfully for several
> >
> > >> years with a Gori two-blade folder and took first
> > in class in last
> > >> October's Columbus Day Regatta which is South
> > Florida's largest
> > annual
> > >> sailboat race.
> > >> The C320 is a capable racer especially when
> > tweaked and sailed for
> > >> optimum speed.
> > >>
> > >> Peter Clancy
> > >> 'AROBAN' #222 (former owner)
> > >> Miami, FL
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  ----- Origi nal Message -----  From: Joe 
> > >> Barrett<mailto:joe at dolphinmortgage.com>  To: 
> > >> 'C320-List'<mailto:c320-list at catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August
> > >> 21, 2007 9:19 AM
> > >>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  If going from a fixed to a feathering/folding
> > prop gains you 1/2-3/4
> > >> knot of
> > >>  speed do the math. The 6 seconds you loose makes
> > getting a
> > >>  feathering/folding prop a no brainer.
> > >>  Joe Barrett
> > >>
> > >>  -----Original Message-----
> > >>  From:
> > >>
> >
>c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com<mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.
>o> rg>
> > >>
> > >>  [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> > Behalf Of chris denny
> > >>  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:05 AM
> > >>  To: C320-List
> > >>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
> > >>
> > >>     If a folder is that much help, why does
> > having a fixed prop get
> > >> you just 6
> > >>  seconds on your adjusted PHRF?
> > >>  CD #328
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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