[C320-list] Club Racing the C320

Tue Aug 28 06:32:20 PDT 2007

Not in Texas you just sweat it off in your yellow thong, so I was told.

At 08:24 AM 8/28/2007, you wrote:
>Pat, in order to lighten the load of course, you have to p*** off the stern,
>right?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Pat Moriarty
>Sent: August 28, 2007 9:23 AM
>To: C320-List
>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
>
>
>We say we drink during the race to lighten the load since the beer
>weights more than the cans which we have to take back to trash, since
>the lake probably already has one of the worlds largest aluminum
>deposits in the state. We beat a J105 on time during a 2 day race
>with very little wind both days. I don't think I was faster but had
>much better tactics thanks to my head being covered with the Bimini
>and cleared of useless thoughts by the beer consumed all day. Race
>was 25 miles each day. I think he sold the 105 the next week and
>moved off my dock due to embarrassment most likely.
>
>Pat #130
>
>At 08:08 AM 8/28/2007, you wrote:
> >Beer after, also wine...but we carry the beer in cans to save weight.
> >That makes it a race boat in my book!
> >
> >Dave M
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> >[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Adam Weiner
> >Sent: August 28, 2007 12:12 AM
> >To: 'C320-List'
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
> >
> >
> >Nice.  That is true.  But if you were serious about racing, wouldn't
> >you buy a race boat?  Let's take it one step further:  is there beer
> >consumed before or during the race?
> >
> >Adam
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> >[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of pat reynolds
> >Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:18 PM
> >To: C320-List
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
> >
> >
> >All racing is serious!
> >
> >--- Adam Weiner <esquirecatering at rcn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I only have one question:  If you want to race
> > > seriously then what in
> > > the hell are you doing with a Catalina 320?  Notice
> > > I didn't respond to
> > > the comment about me?
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Scott
> > > Thompson
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:03 PM
> > > To: C320-List
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
> > >
> > >
> > > Because the rules are made by serious racers, and no serious racer
> > > wants
> > >
> > > a rule change that would generally make it better to
> > > have a slower
> > > sailing boat.  Few racers, even on San Francisco
> > > Bay, share Adam's
> > > rapture about the the benefits of using a fixed prop
> > > as a brake!  The
> > > rules are thus biased in favor of racing gear over
> > > cruising gear, and no
> > >
> > > one believes that they equalize all boats.  If
> > > that's what you are after
> > >
> > > switch to a strict one design class and get out of
> > > PHRF.
> > >
> > > For what it's worth, I believe that folding props
> > > are faster than
> > > feathering ones, and if you really want to race successfully you
> > > will do
> > >
> > > better with a small two-bladed folder that folds
> > > into a really compact
> > > and streamlined package (e.g. the nicer Martec) than
> > > with any other
> > > prop.  On the other hand, if you are really that
> > > serious about racing
> > > then the 320 isn't a very good choice of boat in the
> > > first place.  I
> > > love to cruise my 320 and I love to race.  But I
> > > race boats that are
> > > designed for speed, not cruising comfort.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > chris denny wrote:
> > > > If it is generally accepted that a folder is that
> > > much of a benefit,
> > > > why
> > > > is the allowance for a fixed prop not greater? I
> > > thought the idea was
> > > to
> > > > make things "equal".  Is 6 seconds the "standard
> > > addition" for a fixed
> > >
> > > > prop?
> > > > cd #328
> > > > Peter Clancy wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Casual racers may underestimate the value of
> > > relatively small speed
> > > >> improvements.
> > > >>
> > > >> For example, assume a course is 15 nautical miles
> > > long. If you have a
> > > >> modest 1/2 knot per mile speed advantage (with a
> > > folding prop) over
> > > an
> > > >> identical boat with a fixed prop and you average
> > > 6.5 knots, by the
> > > >> time you reach the finish  you'll be at least 10
> > > minutes ahead of the
> > >
> > > >> slower boat. If that boat has a 6 second per mile
> > > rating advantage
> > > due
> > > >> to a fixed prop, he only gains 90 seconds or 1.5
> > > minutes when
> > > >> corrected. Generally speaking, the lighter the
> > > air, the greater the
> > > >> benefit of a folding prop. We raced 'AROBAN'
> > > successfully for several
> > >
> > > >> years with a Gori two-blade folder and took first
> > > in class in last
> > > >> October's Columbus Day Regatta which is South
> > > Florida's largest
> > > annual
> > > >> sailboat race.
> > > >> The C320 is a capable racer especially when
> > > tweaked and sailed for
> > > >> optimum speed.
> > > >>
> > > >> Peter Clancy
> > > >> 'AROBAN' #222 (former owner)
> > > >> Miami, FL
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  ----- Origi nal Message -----  From: Joe
> > > >> Barrett<mailto:joe at dolphinmortgage.com>  To:
> > > >> 'C320-List'<mailto:c320-list at catalina320.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August
> > > >> 21, 2007 9:19 AM
> > > >>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  If going from a fixed to a feathering/folding
> > > prop gains you 1/2-3/4
> > > >> knot of
> > > >>  speed do the math. The 6 seconds you loose makes
> > > getting a
> > > >>  feathering/folding prop a no brainer.
> > > >>  Joe Barrett
> > > >>
> > > >>  -----Original Message-----
> > > >>  From:
> > > >>
> > >
> >c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com<mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina 
> 320.>o> rg>
> > > >>
> > > >>  [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> > > Behalf Of chris denny
> > > >>  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:05 AM
> > > >>  To: C320-List
> > > >>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320
> > > >>
> > > >>     If a folder is that much help, why does
> > > having a fixed prop get
> > > >> you just 6
> > > >>  seconds on your adjusted PHRF?
> > > >>  CD #328
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>Pat Moriarty
>PSI Urethanes Inc
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Pat Moriarty
PSI Urethanes Inc
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