[C320-list] Club Racing the C320

Wed Aug 29 08:10:30 PDT 2007

All,
It would be great if we could convert the enthusiam of some of folks on these email threads into volunteering to serve as an officer for this great owners association. Most of the roles require very little time commitment - in some cases less time on a monthly basis than reading and deleting all these messages! Contact me or simply reply to the list if you're interested. 
Mike LaChance
Commodore 320IA

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----- Original Message -----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.org <c320-list-bounces at catalina320.org>
To: c320-list at catalina320.org <c320-list at catalina320.org>
Sent: Wed Aug 29 10:55:22 2007
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320

Bruce

I had PropSpeed applied by my yard.? As I remember, it was about $250 for the PS and labor plus the cost of the haul out.

My boat is being hauled this week, but I will have to rely on the yard to describe the condition of the running gear, as I'll be in GA and my boat's in FL.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: brucestanley <brucestanley at optusnet.com.au>
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.org>
Sent: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320

Hi Mike?
I would appreciate hearing from you as to how your PropSpeed has lasted.?
BTW did you know you have to remove all of the Pspeed prior to re applying a new coat??
Our experience is 12 mths +?
When you say the cost of PropSpeed is so expensive ... are you buying the Pspeed or having someone else do it??
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BruceS #1084?
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----- Original Message ----- From: <drshoffner at aol.com>?
To: <c320-list at catalina320.org>?
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:00 PM?
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320?
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> Thanks.? I used PropSpeed this season also and will haul my boat this week > to have a look, but it's awfully pricey.? A couple of years of PropSpeed > would pay for a Kiwi prop and some bottom paint.?
>?
> Mike?
> #171?
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> -----Original Message-----?
> From: brucestanley <brucestanley at optusnet.com.au>?
> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.org>?
> Sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 9:21 pm?
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320?
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> "How well does the Kiwi hold bottom paint.?"??
> The Kiwi prop blades seem to like PropSpeed over the normal Ablative/Hard > antifouls.??
> In Australia a lot of us are using PropSpeed.??
> PropSpeed holds over a 12 month period very well.??
> Ablative Antifoul will come off the blade tips.??
> Some put on a Hard Antifoul (2 coats) then add 2 coats of Ablative.??
> This sees them through to a 12 mth period??
> ??
> Bruce Stanley / Sydney??
> ??
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <drshoffner at aol.com>??
> To: <c320-list at catalina320.org>??
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:30 AM??
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320??
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>> How well does the Kiwi hold bottom paint.? In FL where my boat lives, > >> marine growth on the runnng gear is a bigger problem than the bottom, and >> > I have not yet found a solution to prevent this.??
>>??
>> Mike??
>> #171??
>>??
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>> -----Original Message-----??
>> From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>??
>> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.org>??
>> Sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 7:39 pm??
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320??
>>??
>>??
>> Good input Scott.???
>> ???
>> On feathering props, the Kiwi is unique in the way it feathers. It is 3 > >> balded and feathers each blade independantly. Each blade aligns with the >> > flow independ of shaft angle, where the shaft stops rotating (ie no >> need > to lock the shaft to be sure blades are folded properly) >> independant also > of underbody shape, heel etc etc. Other feathering >> props are made so all > blades are feathered at the same angle and don't >> consider shaft angle > etc.???
>> ???
>> Kirk???
>> Boomerang #124???
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Thompson" >> <sthompson at toad.net>???
>> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.org>???
>> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:02 PM???
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320???
>> ???
>>> Because the rules are made by serious racers, and no serious racer wants >>> >> a > rule change that would generally make it better to have a slower >>> >> sailing > boat. Few racers, even on San Francisco Bay, share Adam's >>> >> rapture about > the the benefits of using a fixed prop as a brake! >>> The >> rules are thus > biased in favor of racing gear over cruising >>> gear, and >> no one believes > that they equalize all boats. If that's >>> what you are >> after switch to a > strict one design class and get out >>> of PHRF.???
>>>???
>>> For what it's worth, I believe that folding props are faster than > >> >>> feathering ones, and if you really want to race successfully you will do >>> >> > better with a small two-bladed folder that folds into a really >>> compact >> and > streamlined package (e.g. the nicer Martec) than with >>> any other >> prop. On > the other hand, if you are really that serious >>> about racing >> then the 320 > isn't a very good choice of boat in the >>> first place. I >> love to cruise my > 320 and I love to race. But I race >>> boats that are >> designed for speed, not > cruising comfort.???
>>>???
>>> Scott???
>>>???
>>> chris denny wrote:???
>>>> If it is generally accepted that a folder is that much of a benefit, >>>> why >>> >> is the allowance for a fixed prop not greater? I thought the >>>> idea was >>> to >> make things "equal". Is 6 seconds the "standard >>>> addition" for a >>> fixed >> prop????
>>>> cd #328???
>>>> Peter Clancy wrote:???
>>>>???
>>>>> Casual racers may underestimate the value of relatively small speed >>>>> >>> >>>> improvements.???
>>>>>???
>>>>> For example, assume a course is 15 nautical miles long. If you have a >>>>> >>>> >>> modest 1/2 knot per mile speed advantage (with a folding >>>>> prop) over >>>> an >>> identical boat with a fixed prop and you >>>>> average 6.5 knots, by >>>> the time >>> you reach the finish you'll be >>>>> at least 10 minutes ahead >>>> of the slower >>> boat. If that boat >>>>> has a 6 second per mile rating >>>> advantage due to a >>> fixed prop, >>>>> he only gains 90 seconds or 1.5 >>>> minutes when corrected. >>> >>>>> Generally speaking, the lighter the air, >>>> the greater the benefit >>>>> of a >>> folding prop. We raced 'AROBAN' >>>> successfully for several >>>>> years with a >>> Gori two-blade folder and >>>> took first in class in >>>>> last October's Columbus >>> Day Regatta which is >>>> South Florida's >>>>> largest annual sailboat race.???
>>>>> The C320 is a capable racer especially when tweaked and sailed for >>> >>>>> >>>> optimum speed.???
>>>>>???
>>>>> Peter Clancy???
>>>>> 'AROBAN' #222 (former owner)???
>>>>> Miami, FL???
>>>>>???
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>>>>>???
>>>>> ----- Origi nal Message ----- From: Joe >>> >>>> >>>>> Barrett<mailto:joe at dolphinmortgage.com> To: >>> >>>> >>>>> 'C320-List'<mailto:c320-list at catalina320.org> Sent: Tuesday, August >>>>> 21, >>>> >>> 2007 9:19 AM???
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320???
>>>>>???
>>>>>???
>>>>> If going from a fixed to a feathering/folding prop gains you 1/2-3/4 >>>>> >>>> >>> knot of???
>>>>> speed do the math. The 6 seconds you loose makes getting a???
>>>>> feathering/folding prop a no brainer.???
>>>>> Joe Barrett???
>>>>>???
>>>>> -----Original Message-----???
>>>>> From: >>> >>>> >>>>> c320-list-bounces at catalina320.org<mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.org>???
>>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.org] On Behalf Of chris denny???
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:05 AM???
>>>>> To: C320-List???
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Club Racing the C320???
>>>>>???
>>>>> If a folder is that much help, why does having a fixed prop get you >>>>> >>> >>>> just 6???
>>>>> seconds on your adjusted PHRF????
>>>>> CD #328???
>>>>>???
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