[C320-list] mysterious full bilge

[jonvez at comcast.net]

If we only knew 2 months ago!

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From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com 

> I've seen the weather reports recently, there's no need for you Nor' 
> Easterners to winterize this year! :) 
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> Oh, forgot to say It's perfectly fine to use either the manual or electric 
> bilge pumps while on land. Just might want to raise up the starboard aft 
> corner of your cover a bit to keep from pumping water onto the canvas 
> cover. 
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> As my last act of winterizing, after flushing out the bilges with a garden 
> hose, is to pour my left over antifreeze in the bilge and run a bit 
> through 
> each pump. I also pump a gallon through the head. Really makes the head 
> pump nicely in the spring. 
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> -Jeff 
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Susan Rasco [mailto:Moondancer5 at comcast.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:19 PM 
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com 
> Subject: [C320-list] mysterious full bilge 
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> Hi, I was wondering if anyone might have an idea what's going on here. 
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> I would have liked to do the winterizing of our new 320 ourselves so we'd 
> learn the procedures (first cruising boat), but with our schedules and the 
> marina's, we couldn't do it and let them handle it. 
> They hauled it mid-October and we looked over the boat a couple of times 
> in 
> October and November. The new canvas winter cover was put on by the maker 
> in 
> early November, and when checking over the boat that time we noticed a bit 
> of dampness on the door to the forward berth and the pillows in spite a 
> couple of containers of calcium chloride in the galley sink and head sink 
> (everything is tipped up and has air circulation underneath). Due to the 
> holidays and stomach viruses (oy), we didn't get back to check on things 
> till yesterday. When my husband checked the bilge there was water up to 
> the 
> floor boards. 
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> We borrowed a hand pump from the marina owner, who (strangely, Frank 
> thought) didn't seem surprised there was a lot of water in the bilge. 
> (Aside: is it okay to use the manual built-in pump when the boat's on the 
> hard?) Frank emptied about 9 galley pails of grayish water, we're figuring 
> about 20-25 gallons. The water was a little sudsy-looking after being 
> pumped, can't tell if that was due to the borrowed hand pump and whatever 
> it 
> was used on last. I called our salesman and asked if he had any ideas on 
> where so much water could come from. He was baffled and asked if the hot 
> water heater had been emptied. Well, we hadn't, and the marina owner was 
> gone, and we checked all around the boat for signs of leakage. The only 
> dampness other than a little again by the forward berth's door (I've added 
> a 
> couple more of the moisture tubs) we only found was that the anchor locker 
> was wet, and the rode was soaked. The drain was not clogged, and there was 
> a 
> bit of water in the hull fitting. The only part of the boat that the cover 
> doesn't cover is the anchor and roller, and even if any rain got in that 
> way, I can't see where it would enter the boat, the hatches are all snugly 
> closed and I don't see any evidence of leaks or cracks anywhere. 
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> I'll mention here that the boat is in NJ, it's been warm with some good 
> rain 
> here and there the past month, and that although we thought we'd shut all 
> the interior lights off last time we did find a light switched on over the 
> fridge when we plugged in the power. Does it seem likely to more 
> experienced 
> owners that the marina personnel emptied the hot water heater 'after' 
> winterizing, or is it possible that that much water could have seeped in 
> somewhere from a rain in about 6 weeks time? I don't like to be suspicious 
> of the marina but I do tend to feel insecure being a new boat owner, not 
> experienced with the engine/plumbing/electrical systems yet (Frank too), 
> and 
> tending to occasionally get flip answers from the owner, (one of whose 
> assistants already broke and will replace the pop-out hatch latch in the 
> rear cabin, by the floor in back of the head sink while doing the 
> winterizing). And yes, okay, being a, what's that evil word ... 
> woman ; ) 
> 
> I have to say I wish that Catalina would do a dvd of rigging and systems 
> maintenance. It would be a lot easier to watch someone go through it a few 
> times on video, regardless of the manual. I do know that we'll do it 
> ourselves next fall, even if I have to kidnap a dealer person for the day 
> to 
> lead us through it. 
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> Thanks for plowing through my endless email.... 
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> Susan 
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