[C320-list] Improving the galley floor
Nicholas Ward
Nicholas_Ward at brown.edu
Wed Mar 28 07:20:29 PDT 2007
Its funny you mentioned Catalina service - I had no experience with
them until yesterday. My co-owner called them at 3:05 in the afernoon.
A guy answered the phone, "hullo" and then proceeded to tell him they
were closed for the day. Not encouraging but will keep trying.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: TV/DVD (Delia Mace)
2. Re: TV/DVD (amshd2 at aol.com)
3. Re: Improving the Galley floor (Allan Field)
4. Backstay Tension (WindSwept)
5. Re: Rust at vent cap (Adam Weiner)
6. Re: Prospective 320 buyer apology (Adam Weiner)
7. FW: Prospective 320 buyer (Adam Weiner)
8. FW: Prospective 320 buyer (Adam Weiner)
9. Gear Box Cable (brucestanley)
10. Battery questions thankyou (PDCatalina320 at aol.com)
11. cleaning the prop shaft (Bill Culbertson)
12. Re: cleaning the prop shaft (bruceheyman at cox.net)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:27:03 +0930
From: "Delia Mace" <domace at picknowl.com.au>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] TV/DVD
To: <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>, "'C320-List'"
<c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <20070327225702.661EC1C6387 at mail04.chariot.net.au>
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Joe
I've just installed a 17" Palsonic with DVD here in Australia. Other
brands are Radio Shack and Teac (Akai) but I am not sure about 19" with
a 12 V power pack. The 17" LCD TVs draw about 4 A from the ship's
battery, which is quite a lot. A 19" TV will draw even more (estimate
about (19 / 17)^2 * 4 = 5A) as it's the light source that draws most of
the power. We tried a 19" Sansui with DVD but it looked too big for the
boat. (It is AC powered.) I mounted it on the starboard bulkhead and
bolted the TV mount through the bulkhead. Cables run through a 22 mm
(7/8") hole drilled through the bulkhead to the forward cabin. Be
careful that you mount the TV so that there is room to load the DVD!
I also installed a Telefunken DVB-T set top box for standard definition
digital television. This box is little more than the size of a pack of
cigarettes and it is velcro'd to the bulkhead in the forward berth. A
small cable carries the sensor for the remote which I've blue-tacked to
the front of the TV. I bought the Telefunken from e-bay. But ... the
specs say that it should draw 120 mA but it is a lot more than that as
it gets too hot to touch. Oh well, back to the seller ...
I use a Sigtec (or something like that) marine antenna with built in
pre-amp powered from a little box also mounted on the bulkhead.
I also bought a 300 W inverter (A$80 = US$60) which works well. Next
job is to connect the ship's 12 V to the TV, set top box and pre-amp.
The TV works really well either analog or digital.
Owen Mace
Baloo #727
Adelaide, Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Joe Barrett
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:13 AM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] TV/DVD
I am looking for a 19-20 inch flat screen Television/DVD that will
operate off of the ships batteries. Anyone know of Brands and Model of a
TV that has worked for you?
Joe Barrett
------------------------------------
Dolphin Commercial Mortgage
Joseph T. Barrett jr.
President
joe at dolphinmortgage.com
9010 Strada Stell Court
Suite 209
Naples, Florida 34109
In The Vanderbilt Galleria behind Sanibel Steakhouse
tel: 239-597-2266
tel2:1-800-264-4119
fax: 239-597-7276
mobile: 239-777-1880
www.dolphinmortgage.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Heyman
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 1:15 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Kirk,
Where did you install the second vent fitting? Did you "T" the line?
This sounds like a serious safety issue that we should encourage all
owners to investigate. Bruce Somerset #671 SoCal
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk McCullough
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:58 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
I had to do the same thing with my propane vent line. There was a low
spot which always filled with water, making the vent useless. I
installed a second vent fitting to allow me to straighten out the line.
Kirk
Boomerang #124
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Rogacevicz" <SROGACEV at holycross.edu>
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Another thing to check - Make sure there are no low spots before the
stern exit because if there are, water will pool there and make the
vent -
Useless. Just because you can pour water into the propane locker and see
water come out the stern it Does Not mean that the vent is working
because if anywhere along it the tube is filled with water, propane gas
-
Will Not - drain out. Just blowing it out once does not cure the problem
either because rain or washing will simply fill the low spot again. This
came up a few years ago on this list and it is a fairly common problem
that
I remedied with slight re-routing of mine.
Stan
formerly "Christy Leigh"
c320 #656
Wickford/Narragansett Bay RI
>>> "Quentin Murphy" <qmurphy at sympatico.ca> 3/27/2007 9:50 AM >>>
Adam,
After I purchased my boat fall of 2005, I turned on the propane at the
tank to do a leak test. A half-hour later the boat started to smell of
propane. Using soap I discovered the brass Tee fitting (at the top of
the tank) has a crack (which I could only see with a magnifying glass).
I replaced it. Next spring I washed out the propane locker and it would
not drain (dust and spider webs). I now clean this locker a few times a
season and make sure water drains out that vent cap at the Port side of
the transom. I was lucky the boat did not blow up. This drain vent,
which is very important, clogs easily.
Quentin
Celtic Knot #667
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Adam Weiner
Sent: March 26, 2007 9:41 PM
To: catalina at thehares.com; 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Port side, just above the water. It is far below the 110 inlet.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:36 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Any chance you meant starboard? If so, it's probably diesel fuel vent.
-Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Weiner [mailto:esquirecatering at rcn.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:07 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
While pumping out yesterday I got a good look at the boat's stern which
I normally don't see. There was a large amount of rust coming out of
the ventilator cap on the port transom. (I have hull 218.) This is the
same type of vent cap that is used for the head vent.
Does anyone know what the vent on the port transom close to the water
connects to?
Adam
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:57:36 -0400
From: amshd2 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] TV/DVD
To: joe at dolphinmortgage.com, c320-list at catalina320.com
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Joe
I got a Toshiba 15 inch flat screen TV/DVD at Best Buy last year. I
found that a 20 inch was to big. I also bought a articulating arm
that allowed me to mount the TV above the NAV Station it folds away
flat. It runs on AC or DC and I can also hook my lap top to it.
I also think that audiovox makes one that will do what you are looking
for.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: joe at dolphinmortgage.com
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
Sent: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: [C320-list] TV/DVD
I am looking for a 19-20 inch flat screen Television/DVD that will
operate off of the ships batteries. Anyone know of Brands and Model of a
TV that has worked for you?
Joe Barrett
------------------------------------
Dolphin Commercial Mortgage
Joseph T. Barrett jr.
President
joe at dolphinmortgage.com
9010 Strada Stell Court
Suite 209
Naples, Florida 34109
In The Vanderbilt Galleria behind Sanibel Steakhouse
tel: 239-597-2266
tel2:1-800-264-4119
fax: 239-597-7276
mobile: 239-777-1880
www.dolphinmortgage.com
------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Heyman
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 1:15 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Kirk,
Where did you install the second vent fitting? Did you "T" the line?
This sounds like a serious safety issue that we should encourage all
owners to investigate. Bruce Somerset #671 SoCal
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk McCullough
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:58 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
I had to do the same thing with my propane vent line. There was a low
spot which always filled with water, making the vent useless. I
installed a second vent fitting to allow me to straighten out the line.
Kirk
Boomerang #124
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Rogacevicz" <SROGACEV at holycross.edu>
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Another thing to check - Make sure there are no low spots before the
stern exit because if there are, water will pool there and make the
vent -
Useless. Just because you can pour water into the propane locker and see
water come out the stern it Does Not mean that the vent is working
because if anywhere along it the tube is filled with water, propane gas
-
Will Not - drain out. Just blowing it out once does not cure the problem
either because rain or washing will simply fill the low spot again. This
came up a few years ago on this list and it is a fairly common problem
that
I remedied with slight re-routing of mine.
Stan
formerly "Christy Leigh"
c320 #656
Wickford/Narragansett Bay RI
>>> "Quentin Murphy" <qmurphy at sympatico.ca> 3/27/2007 9:50 AM >>>
Adam,
After I purchased my boat fall of 2005, I turned on the propane at the
tank to do a leak test. A half-hour later the boat started to smell of
propane. Using soap I discovered the brass Tee fitting (at the top of
the tank) has a crack (which I could only see with a magnifying glass).
I replaced it. Next spring I washed out the propane locker and it would
not drain (dust and spider webs). I now clean this locker a few times a
season and make sure water drains out that vent cap at the Port side of
the transom. I was lucky the boat did not blow up. This drain vent,
which is very important, clogs easily.
Quentin
Celtic Knot #667
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Adam Weiner
Sent: March 26, 2007 9:41 PM
To: catalina at thehares.com; 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Port side, just above the water. It is far below the 110 inlet.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:36 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Any chance you meant starboard? If so, it's probably diesel fuel vent.
-Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Weiner [mailto:esquirecatering at rcn.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:07 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
While pumping out yesterday I got a good look at the boat's stern which
I normally don't see. There was a large amount of rust coming out of
the ventilator cap on the port transom. (I have hull 218.) This is the
same type of vent cap that is used for the head vent.
Does anyone know what the vent on the port transom close to the water
connects to?
Adam
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:39:17 -0500
From: "Allan Field" <Allan.Field at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Improving the Galley floor
To: <Nicholas_Ward at brown.edu>, "'C320-List'"
<c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000401c770d9$ea0b9430$6301a8c0 at Office>
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Suggest you contact Catalina. At the factory tour a few years ago
during the Marina del Rey Rendezvous, Gerry Douglas announced that they
were using a new material for the galley floor and we could upgrade when
ready. Now trying to get service from the CA Catalina's Parts Dept. may
not be worth the effort... They are absolutely the last call that I
make although I have not tried them since they moved the C320 to
Florida. Warren Pandy in FL has been very responsive with one query I
had to him so it may be worth a try.
Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Ward
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:31 AM
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Improving the Galley floor
The 14 year old plastic-like floor of my galley area is old and a
horrible dirty shade of green-tan.
Has anyone ever replaced that? Could I buy some kind of lanolium like
product at home-depot and cut it to the same shape?
Nick Ward
(?Dark & Stormy) #1
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:56:06 -0500
From: "WindSwept" <c320_windswept at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Backstay Tension
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <005e01c770dc$409103b0$6401a8c0 at Office>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
For those of you out there without a backstay adjuster, how much tension
to you put on your backstays? What keys do you look for to know you
have the tension set where you want it?
Larry
WindSwept C320 #246
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:04:00 -0700
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Cc: CraigEneboe at aol.com
Message-ID: <001401c770e5$bcc901e0$6401a8c0 at LAdamWeiner>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Thank you very much. I will check this weekend.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Stanley
Rogacevicz
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:09 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Another thing to check - Make sure there are no low spots before the
stern exit because if there are, water will pool there and make the
vent - Useless. Just because you can pour water into the propane locker
and see water come out the stern it Does Not mean that the vent is
working because if anywhere along it the tube is filled with water,
propane gas - Will Not - drain out. Just blowing it out once does not
cure the problem either because rain or washing will simply fill the low
spot again. This came up a few years ago on this list and it is a fairly
common problem that I remedied with slight re-routing of mine. Stan
formerly "Christy Leigh" c320 #656 Wickford/Narragansett Bay RI
>>> "Quentin Murphy" <qmurphy at sympatico.ca> 3/27/2007 9:50 AM >>>
Adam,
After I purchased my boat fall of 2005, I turned on the propane at the
tank to do a leak test. A half-hour later the boat started to smell of
propane. Using soap I discovered the brass Tee fitting (at the top of
the tank) has a crack (which I could only see with a magnifying glass).
I replaced it. Next spring I washed out the propane locker and it would
not drain (dust and spider webs). I now clean this locker a few times a
season and make sure water drains out that vent cap at the Port side of
the transom. I was lucky the boat did not blow up. This drain vent,
which is very important, clogs easily.
Quentin
Celtic Knot #667
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Adam Weiner
Sent: March 26, 2007 9:41 PM
To: catalina at thehares.com; 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Port side, just above the water. It is far below the 110 inlet.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 6:36 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
Any chance you meant starboard? If so, it's probably diesel fuel vent.
-Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Weiner [mailto:esquirecatering at rcn.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:07 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Rust at vent cap
While pumping out yesterday I got a good look at the boat's stern which
I normally don't see. There was a large amount of rust coming out of
the ventilator cap on the port transom. (I have hull 218.) This is the
same type of vent cap that is used for the head vent.
Does anyone know what the vent on the port transom close to the water
connects to?
Adam
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:15:44 -0700
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Prospective 320 buyer apology
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <001901c770e7$63158720$6401a8c0 at LAdamWeiner>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear Barbara and Bob Uhlman:
I was correctly chastised for my response to you about over analyzing
and just told you to buy the boat and go sailing. Some on the list
thought my comments about sailing over 1000 miles in 51 times out was
bragging.
I was rude and I apologize. What I tried to say--and I ended up saying
it rudely and not well--is that there are really no problems with the
boat. If you read the list long enough you will feel that you need to
buy an expensive new folding prop, a stainless steel prop shaft, new
motor mounts, a different anchor windlass, a Honda generator, a fancy
inverter, a new battery charger, new hatches, new head hoses, etc. My
point is that you DON'T. In eight years I have replaced the battery
charger, the roller furling, and two batteries and the steering
quadrant. That is it for "major" repairs. No fancy prop, no inventers,
nothing fancy.
Yet, in spite of this I sail my boat more than 90% of the people on the
list either by days out or by mileage. What I tried to say, and again I
apologize for the rudeness, is that it is a great boat and the best way
to judge that is to go sailing on one. If you live anywhere near San
Francisco Bay I would be honored to personally apologize and take you
sailing.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Barb & Bob
Uhlman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:22 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Prospective 320 buyer
I'm considering buying a 2001 Catalina 320. Can any current or former
Catalina 320 owners provide me advice on items to consider when buying a
2001 Catalina 320?
I am especially interested in issues affecting operating systems
(engine, electrical, head, tanks, etc.), the hull, deck and windows
(hull blisters, window leaks, etc.), and rigging including sails.
Thanks!
Barb and Bob
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:16:27 -0700
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: [C320-list] FW: Prospective 320 buyer
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c770e7$7cd10d60$6401a8c0 at LAdamWeiner>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Weiner [mailto:esquirecatering at rcn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:01 PM
To: 'catalina at thehares.com'
Cc: 'C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com'
Subject: RE: [C320-list] Prospective 320 buyer
Dear Jeff:
I guess it was kind of rude, and I apologize. My point was that
everyone over analyzes, over worries, over talks, over everything but it
seems that very few people over sail the boat.
I do beg to differ with you. When I bought the boat I didn't worry
about the electrical system, the engine system, the anything system.
That was the job of the surveyor. What I worried about was how well she
sailed. I talked with other 320 owners and what I found was that they
sat a dock a lot and didn't sail much so I insisted on an all day test
sail so that I could try the boat in all sorts of conditions. It was
not the first 32 foot I took on a test sail, but it certainly was the
best one in terms of sailing performance. That was the prime factor.
The secondary factor was that my wife loved the large fixed table (which
so many on this list hate) because the family could all sit around it.
No, I didn't worry about the systems. I know that I am weird, but I
didn't really ask a lot of questions about the boat. The question I had
was "How well does it sail?" I was not trying to brag about the number
of sails and the mileage, I was trying to point out that it was a great
boat to sail and not one that you have to worry about before you use it
every week.
What I thought was unusual about this prospective 320 buyer was he
didn't say: "I am thinking of buying a 320 and I live in the ______.
Could someone take me sailing?"
But, you were correct, I was rude to the potential buyer and for that I
apologize, and if he wants to go on an apology sail I am going out this
weekend.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Hare [mailto:Catalina at thehares.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:51 AM
To: 'Adam Weiner'
Subject: RE: [C320-list] Prospective 320 buyer
Hi Adam,
I have to say, that isn't particularly helpful to a new potential
buyer.
;) If the list had responded to my similar questions back in 2000 this
way, I'm pretty sure I'd have signed off and own a different boat today.
Even if they end up buying the boat, we need them to join the
association and feel welcome.
If I were looking to buy a new boat and asked this kind of first-time
question and got this kind of response, I'd be a bit offended. Since
they aren't likely to know much of the history of this group, we'll be
lucky if they take it in the light spirit you intended.
We should all be especially sensitive to the questions of new potential
owners. Most people wouldn't even contemplate a casual purchase of
something like a 90K boat without asking lots of questions. Neither
would you. :)
As for the 1100 miles, My boat spent only 4 mos in the water last year
because of spring storms/marina damage and drawbridge failure in late
september and I did around 1000 miles and I was only out about 10 times.
:)
So... Since you spend so much time on your boat, how about providing
some
*helpful* answers to his questions? :) :)
-Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Weiner [mailto:esquirecatering at rcn.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:33 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Cc: CraigEneboe at aol.com; 'Mike Straus'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Prospective 320 buyer
You worry too much. You consider too much. Buy the boat, take it
sailing. A sailboat in the dock won't break but that is not what a
sailboat is for.
I took my boat out 51 times last year sailing nearly 1100 miles. I am
trying to break that this year. Any other questions about the systems?
Where do you live, someone on this list will take you for a test sail.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Barb & Bob
Uhlman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:22 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Prospective 320 buyer
I'm considering buying a 2001 Catalina 320. Can any current or former
Catalina 320 owners provide me advice on items to consider when buying a
2001 Catalina 320?
I am especially interested in issues affecting operating systems
(engine, electrical, head, tanks, etc.), the hull, deck and windows
(hull blisters, window leaks, etc.), and rigging including sails.
Thanks!
Barb and Bob
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:18:02 -0700
From: "Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: [C320-list] FW: Prospective 320 buyer
To: "'C320-List'" <c320-list at catalina320.com>,
<C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Weiner [mailto:esquirecatering at rcn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:01 PM
To: 'catalina at thehares.com'
Cc: 'C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com'
Subject: RE: [C320-list] Prospective 320 buyer
Dear Jeff:
I guess it was kind of rude, and I apologize. My point was that
everyone over analyzes, over worries, over talks, over everything but it
seems that very few people over sail the boat.
I do beg to differ with you. When I bought the boat I didn't worry
about the electrical system, the engine system, the anything system.
That was the job of the surveyor. What I worried about was how well she
sailed. I talked with other 320 owners and what I found was that they
sat a dock a lot and didn't sail much so I insisted on an all day test
sail so that I could try the boat in all sorts of conditions. It was
not the first 32 foot I took on a test sail, but it certainly was the
best one in terms of sailing performance. That was the prime factor.
The secondary factor was that my wife loved the large fixed table (which
so many on this list hate) because the family could all sit around it.
No, I didn't worry about the systems. I know that I am weird, but I
didn't really ask a lot of questions about the boat. The question I had
was "How well does it sail?" I was not trying to brag about the number
of sails and the mileage, I was trying to point out that it was a great
boat to sail and not one that you have to worry about before you use it
every week.
What I thought was unusual about this prospective 320 buyer was he
didn't say: "I am thinking of buying a 320 and I live in the ______.
Could someone take me sailing?"
But, you were correct, I was rude to the potential buyer and for that I
apologize, and if he wants to go on an apology sail I am going out this
weekend.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Hare [mailto:Catalina at thehares.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:51 AM
To: 'Adam Weiner'
Subject: RE: [C320-list] Prospective 320 buyer
Hi Adam,
I have to say, that isn't particularly helpful to a new potential
buyer.
;) If the list had responded to my similar questions back in 2000 this
way, I'm pretty sure I'd have signed off and own a different boat today.
Even if they end up buying the boat, we need them to join the
association and feel welcome.
If I were looking to buy a new boat and asked this kind of first-time
question and got this kind of response, I'd be a bit offended. Since
they aren't likely to know much of the history of this group, we'll be
lucky if they take it in the light spirit you intended.
We should all be especially sensitive to the questions of new potential
owners. Most people wouldn't even contemplate a casual purchase of
something like a 90K boat without asking lots of questions. Neither
would you. :)
As for the 1100 miles, My boat spent only 4 mos in the water last year
because of spring storms/marina damage and drawbridge failure in late
september and I did around 1000 miles and I was only out about 10 times.
:)
So... Since you spend so much time on your boat, how about providing
some
*helpful* answers to his questions? :) :)
-Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Weiner [mailto:esquirecatering at rcn.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 10:33 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Cc: CraigEneboe at aol.com; 'Mike Straus'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Prospective 320 buyer
You worry too much. You consider too much. Buy the boat, take it
sailing. A sailboat in the dock won't break but that is not what a
sailboat is for.
I took my boat out 51 times last year sailing nearly 1100 miles. I am
trying to break that this year. Any other questions about the systems?
Where do you live, someone on this list will take you for a test sail.
Adam
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Barb & Bob
Uhlman
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:22 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Prospective 320 buyer
I'm considering buying a 2001 Catalina 320. Can any current or former
Catalina 320 owners provide me advice on items to consider when buying a
2001 Catalina 320?
I am especially interested in issues affecting operating systems
(engine, electrical, head, tanks, etc.), the hull, deck and windows
(hull blisters, window leaks, etc.), and rigging including sails.
Thanks!
Barb and Bob
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:13:57 +1000
From: "brucestanley" <brucestanley at optusnet.com.au>
Subject: [C320-list] Gear Box Cable
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Hi Bruce
re comment "the exhaust elbow must have been leaking".
Yes, I had a similar leak and on reflection belive that was the source
of
the problem.
Hope the lubrication does the job.
Cheers
BruceS
FantasticLady#1084/Sydney
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From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Gear Box Cable
> Bruce,
> I just lubed ours as it was getting sticky. I found that the exhaust
> elbow must have been leaking at some point which allowed sea water to
drip
> down onto the end of the cable. I'm sure some water wicked up the
cable
> causing lots of corrosion and friction.
> After lubing and working the shifter back and forth it is like a new
boat!
> Bruce
> Somerset #671 SoCal
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:39:25 EDT
From: PDCatalina320 at aol.com
Subject: [C320-list] Battery questions thankyou
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
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Thanks for the help on my battery charger/inverter question. I have not
purchased them yet, but per the list suggestions [Karl] I did install
golf cart
batteries. Not 4, but just 2 on switch position 1, and a starting
battery on
switch position 2. Everything fit very nicely, was not expensive, and
will
meet my needs of a small house bank for day sailing and ocassional over
night
trips and with a proper starting battery. Thanks again, Paul
Sobrante, on san francisco bay
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:58:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Culbertson <billculb_a2 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [C320-list] cleaning the prop shaft
To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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What do people recommend for cleaning the bronze prop shaft (the water
end)? I've used Scotchbrite pads the last few years but last year it
didn't work very well. If sandpaper is my next step, what grit? I'm
assuming I need to be careful because I'm guessing bronze is relatively
soft as metals go.
I've never worried too much about a shiny smooth bronze shaft but I do
want to be certain that at least the area under the shaft zinc is shiny.
I'm thinking it probably wasn't the last year or two and the shaft took
a minor hit. The zinc definitely took a major hit.
-bill
Harmony #859
Lake Erie
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 05:11:08 +0000
From: bruceheyman at cox.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] cleaning the prop shaft
To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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Bill,
What do you mean by the zinc took a hit. I've used 100 grit on the
shaft, hand sanding you should be fine. The smother you get it and the
prop the harder it is for the criters to set up home.
Bruce
Somerset 671 SoCal
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Culbertson <billculb_a2 at yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:58:23
To:C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] cleaning the prop shaft
What do people recommend for cleaning the bronze prop shaft (the water
end)? I've used Scotchbrite pads the last few years but last year it
didn't work very well. If sandpaper is my next step, what grit? I'm
assuming I need to be careful because I'm guessing bronze is relatively
soft as metals go.
I've never worried too much about a shiny smooth bronze shaft but I do
want to be certain that at least the area under the shaft zinc is shiny.
I'm thinking it probably wasn't the last year or two and the shaft took
a minor hit. The zinc definitely took a major hit.
-bill
Harmony #859
Lake Erie
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