[C320-list] Perkins: Source for parts

Tue Apr 8 16:49:30 PDT 2008

I've bought from here: www.tadiesels.com with good results.  Foley is a 
major Perkins dealer: www.foleyengines.com Some have found Foley to be a 
very hard sell and a bit arrogant.  Look here for distributors: 
http://perkins-sabre.com/PR/index.cfm  I've found a non-marine dealer that 
can get the parts; however, Perkins parts are expensive no matter where you 
get them.  In my area, non-stocked parts are ordered through: 
www.perkinspower.com who is the regional Perkins Sabre authorized dealer (I 
think.)  This, I think may be the main Perkins-Sabre web site: 
http://perkins-sabre.com/  If you are not on the E Coast, there may be 
dealers closer to you.

I've found miscellaneous replacement parts (relays, vibration mounts, 
filters, raw water pump parts, probably even injectors,) elsewhere on the 
web at 1/10 the Perkins price.  Castings and other obvious Perkins only 
parts have only once source.  I replaced the internal water pump and the 
parts were over $250.

Good Luck.

Warren & Pattie Updike
C320, #62, 1994, "Warr De Mar"
Frog Mortar Creek, Middle River
Chesapeake Bay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jimc320 at aol.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust Water Problem Aqua lift muffler

> Dick,
>
> Thanks,
>
> I am starting to think that it may be in the exhuast elbow since its near 
> the age of the one that it replaced. When I had?a problem 6 years ago it 
> was related to the elbow with the exhuast side of the elbow? almost 
> blocked off. In looking at my original elbow, that was replaced, the water 
> inlet shows some blockage too. This time the water side may be the most 
> restricted and limiting the flow causing the muffler not to fill up fast 
> as normal.Thereby requiring?running the engine longer than I am willing to 
> allow (until I know whats going on) to fo fill the mufler to the requred 
> level for the exhuast to dicharge it.
>
> I will let the group know what it was.
>
> By the way, be happy you have a Yanmar, The elbow on the Perkins cost me 
> around $350.00 6 years ago.
>
> Anyone have a source for perkins parts?
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard A. Walker <dickwalker at att.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:36 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhaust Water Problem Aqua lift muffler
>
>
>
> In addition the Yanmar manual recommends to change the Exhaust bypass 
> elbow.
> This is Yanmar part # 12827013600 and costs about $150.00
>
> Cheers,
> ?
> Dick Walker
> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> 619.435.8986
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Pete Herron
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:25 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhuast Water Problem Aqua lift muffler
>
> Our Yanmar overheated while motoring near Catalina a few years back.
> We sailed to the mooring (at about 2 kts, there was little wind).
> Another C320 owner on a nearby mooring told me that the guy on the
> adjacent mooring might be of help - he was a retired Yanmar mechanic.
>
> The guy showed up 30 minutes later, freshly showered, in a clean shirt
> and ready for dinner with his friends.  He found a blockage in the
> vented loop line that runs from the engine, to the vent in the port
> locker, and back to the exhaust elbow.  The blockage was caused by a
> buildup of salt crystals.  He cleared the blockage by momentarily
> reversing the hose connections at the engine.  He held the reversed
> connections to the engine by hand, not by tightening the clamps.  The
> "backwards" flow of water blew out the buildup.  It also blew a cloud
> of soot that landed on his clean, white shirt.
>
> The next morning I rowed over to his boat to leave a bottle of red, but
> he was already gone.  We never saw him again.  Who was that masked man?
>
> So, check the vented loop line.  The buildup would be at a low point in
> the line, not at the vent itself.  And, wear an old shirt.
>
> Pete
> #329
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2008, at 5:12 AM, Jon Vez wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Can you determine whether the water you are finding in the muffler is
>> 'new'.
>> Risidual water remains in the water, especially when engaging the
>> starter. I
>> can't comment on whether the muffler is the problem--although it is a
>> *dumb*
>> device and if the exhaust is getting out, then there is at least some
>> open
>> pathway out the boat. Another health concern by the way would be Carbon
>> Monoxide escaping if there is a leak somewhere. The other thing you
>> may want
>> to check is the heat exchanger. If this is clogged with salt, calcium
>> or old
>> impeller blades it may be causing your problem...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>> Solstice #582
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>> jimc320 at aol.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:21 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhuast Water Problem Aqua lift muffler
>>
>> Kirk, Jon,
>>
>> Thanks for the response,
>>
>> I did check the?check the impeler and water flow as soon as no water
>> came
>> out, everything is okay plenty of water.
>>
>> Just to clarify,? It appears that the water is getting to the muffler
>> as I
>> have had to drain it, but does not leave with the exhuast.
>>
>> As Jon mentioned, I have not been able to run the engine very long for
>> fear
>> of backing up water into it.
>>
>> Is it possible that the Aqualift muffler has failed and the exhuast is
>> going
>> straight out with out causing back pressure to cause the water to exit
>> with
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:37 pm
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhuast Water Problem Aqua lift muffler
>>
>>
>> I agree with Jon. Water in means water out. My guess is you are not
>> getting
>> raw water in, which will result in overheating when you run the engine
>> with
>> a load. With no load the engine will appear to run fine, but you
>> cannot go
>> to sea without water coming out.?
>> ?
>> It must be the impeller, again assuming you have the thru-hull open.?
>> ?
>> A plugged elbow will result in black smoke and low rpm under load, but
>> the
>> water will still flow thru.?
>> ?
>> Kirk?
>> #124 Perkins M30?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>?
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>?
>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 12:56 PM?
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Exhuast Water Problem Aqua lift muffler?
>> ?
>>> Jim,?
>>> ?
>>> Assuming the obvious--you have the thru hull open and there is no
>> blockage?
>>> either inside the hose or on the outer hull, I would check your
>>> impeller.
>>> It?
>>> is critical to get water coming out and I would not run the engine
>>> until >
>> you?
>>> determine the problem. If water is indeed getting in and to the
>>> muffler
>> it?
>>> is possible that it will back into the engine if you have blockage at
>>> the?
>>> muffler. I have never heard of the muffler getting blocked, but I am
>>> sure?
>>> this is possible...Hope this helps and good luck...?
>>> ?
>>> Regards,?
>>> ?
>>> Jon Vez?
>>> Solstice #582?
>>> ?
>>> -----Original Message-----?
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com?
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of?
>>> jimc320 at aol.com?
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 2:01 PM?
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com?
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Exhuast Water Problem Aqua lift muffler?
>>> ?
>>> All?
>>> ?
>>> 1995 Hull 209, Perkins M30?
>>> ?
>>> I just started the Engine up for the first time this season and do
>>> not >
>> have?
>>> any water exiting out the exhaust outlet on the Hull.?
>>> ?
>>> Water is making it to the aqualift muffler but does not exit with the?
>>> exhaust as usual.? The engine appears to run fine so I don't believe
>> there?
>>> is complete?blockage of exhaust.?About 5 years ago I had to replace
>>> the?
>>> exhaust elbow engine, do to blockage that caused engine issues >
>> by?partially?
>>> blocking?the exhaust flow, but the engine seems to run with out
>>> symptoms >
>> of?
>>> a blocked exhaust this time.?
>>> ?
>>> Does any one know if it is possible that the Aqualift muffler(
>>> original?
>>> Catalina muffler)?could be broken and?letting the Exhaust by with out
>>> >
>> taking?
>>> the water.?
>>> ?
>>> Any?and all?possible solutions are welcome.?
>>> ?
>>> Jim?
>>> Elusive 2, 209??
>>> ?
>>> ?
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