[C320-list] 4 D Battery Replacement
crashley at gte.net
crashley at gte.net
Sat Apr 19 10:04:22 PDT 2008
Pete,
The Balmar 120A 60 series alternator I got came with a single belt pulley. I
haven't installed it yet but it looks like it should fit okay. It also looks
there's an adjustment in the external voltage regulator to reduce the output
current if the load is too great for the engine.
Thanks,
CRA
Rosebud #882
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Herron" <peteherron at mac.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 4 D Battery Replacement
> Chris,
>
> You may want to check out the smaller Balmar alternators. The 120 A
> alternator has two pulleys and that would be a pain to accommodate. The
> large alternators also take a more engine power. Maybe Yanmar could tell
> you if it is OK or too much load for your engine.
>
> I installed a 70-80 (70 series, 80 A) alternator. It fits well and works
> well. If I let the batteries drop to near 12v, and run the engine at
> about 1800 rpm, I can replace an indicated 40+ Ahr in just one hour.
> Leave the dock with batteries fully charged, run the motor one hour a day,
> and you'll have hot water and plenty of juice for a week. We are power
> misers, don't charge until the third day, and we're still good for a week.
>
> Pete
> Dreamtime
> #329
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:30 PM, crashley at gte.net wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth, I replaced my flooded 4Ds with AGMs from WM last
>> November. They were 5+ years old and one of them had lost a cell . It
>> certainly wasn't the cheapest way to go, but I wanted to eliminate the
>> maintenance (i.e., remember to add water periodically). I paralleled the
>> two 200 AHr 4Ds for the house battery (#1) and added an AGM group 27 (92
>> AHr) as a starting battery wired as battery #2. I'm going to install a
>> Balmar 120 A alternator and a Xantrex Freedom 20 charger/inverter next. I
>> already have the units but am procrastinating on installing them.
>>
>> CRA
>> Rosebud #882
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Nolte" <dcnolte at mac.com>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 4 D Battery Replacement
>>
>>
>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> I just replaced my 4Ds. Our boats are of the same vintage, I'm hull #4.
>>>
>>> I've had my boat for 4 years and I know the batteries were already a
>>> couple years old when I bought the boat. Sounds similar to your
>>> situation.
>>>
>>> I could really tell last season on overnighters that they were running
>>> down faster than before. We did a load test and made the call.
>>>
>>> I got my new ones at Battery Warehouse. They were the identical
>>> batteries to the ones I replaced, and were EACH $40 cheaper than West
>>> Marine's price.
>>>
>>> See you at the regatta,
>>>
>>> David Nolte
>>> Beach House #4
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:41 AM, amshd2 at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know this question has been on the site before. But what is the
>>>> average life expectancy for a 4 D Battery.? I?know mine are at least 5
>>>> years old maybe closer to 6-7 the PO replaced them.??
>>>>
>>>> I am also looking for a? good source for?them other than West Marine.
>>>> I keep her?in Annapolis, MD.
>>>>
>>>> I have kept them filled with distilled water, charged up all year
>>>> round except for one season (on the hard) and I have a Freedom 20
>>>> (Xentrax charger).
>>>>
>>>> They seem to be in good shape now but I feel that I am living? borrowed
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> I am also looking forward to meeting you all in Aug been on this site
>>>> for 5 years now and?it has been great.??Just wanted to?add I? hope OD
>>>> does not wear that thong or what ever it is I am not sure Annapolis is
>>>> ready for that.........??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks ???
>>>>
>>>> Tony #30
>>>> ?????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
>>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Sent: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 9:29 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here you go:
>>>> gerard at catalinayachts.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>> Regards,
>>>> OD
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Allan S. Field" [allan.field at comcast.net]
>>>> Sent: 04/14/2008 06:27 PM
>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>>>
>>>> Karl - Do you still have Gerry's e-mail re: keel bolt torque
>>>> specifications?
>>>> When I bought a new computer in December, I lost what he sent to us.
>>>> Perhaps if you still have it you can post it here for Jeff. - Allan
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>>>> Church
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 6:33 PM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>>>
>>>> Allan
>>>>
>>>> Gerry usually monitors these mail lists so if he disagreed with you I
>>>> suspect we'd have heard from him. I'm going to email him about
>>>> checking the
>>>> torque on my 387 as part of the initial commissioning, so I'll ask
>>>> about the
>>>> 320 again just to make sure.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Allan S. Field
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 6:25 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff - My source for the keel bolt torque setting is none other than
>>>> Gerry
>>>> Douglas. At the factory tour a few years ago, he misspoke when he
>>>> said
>>>> something else. Karl questioned him later and then I followed up
>>>> with
>>>> him,
>>>> reminding him that he had said something else at the tour. He
>>>> clarified
>>>> that he was speaking about a different boat. One of our members has
>>>> used
>>>> the 235 setting and while a challenge, was able to get it torqued to
>>>> 235.
>>>> -
>>>> Allan
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
>>>> Church
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:54 PM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>>>
>>>> Allan,
>>>>
>>>> Just off the top, I thought the proper torque was something like 105
>>>> foot
>>>> pounds. If that is the case, 235 pounds might tear the bolts right
>>>> out of
>>>> the keel. You might want to check your source.
>>>>
>>>> JeffC
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Allan S. Field
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warren - The proper torque for the keel bolts is 235 foot pounds.
>>>> The
>>>> boat
>>>> must be out of the water with at least 70% of its weight supported
>>>> by
>>>> the
>>>> keel. The Association has the torque wrench, socket and extension
>>>> bars
>>>> as
>>>> part of the loaner program.
>>>>
>>>> Allan S. Field
>>>> Sea Shadow - #808
>>>> Columbia, MD
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Warren
>>>> Updike
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 10:54 AM
>>>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>>>
>>>> What is the proper torque for the keel bolts?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Warren & Pattie Updike
>>>> C320, #62, 1994, "Warr De Mar"
>>>> Frog Mortar Creek, Middle River
>>>> Chesapeake Bay
>>>>
>>>>
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