[C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
Joe Abbagnaro
jabbagna at gmail.com
Tue Apr 22 06:01:58 PDT 2008
Jon
>From the records I have of the Previous Owner , one battery was replaced in
06/2004 the other in 07/2005. I am using a Digital Multi Meter to
check voltages at the batteries. Looks like I will be taking along a
Battery Jumper
pack for the trip home, and hopefully will resolve this issue by the weekend.
Joe
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Jeff Hare has also posted some excellent wiring diagrams on the 320 web
> site. One thing you can also look at is the date of the batteries. There
> should be a sticker on the top of them indicating the month/year. If they
> are originals, I suspect you may have weak/dying batteries. Even if resting
> voltage is 12.4 this doesn't indicate they can take the deep charge the
> starter imposes on them. I also have a 99 and mine died after season 5. I'm
> the original owner and took very careful care of the batteries. I now have
> AGM's and a Xantrex charger. Finally, if you are relying on the voltage
> meter on the boat's electrical panel you will find it is not a very accurate
> way to determine actual battery help. A multimeter is the best way to get a
> real sense of the state of the batteries. Good luck!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Vez
> Solstice #582
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>
>
> crashley at gte.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:01 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>
> Joe,
>
> I happen to be an electrical engineer but this sounds very mysterious. If
> the battery switch is wired per the C320 diagram I have (Catalina drawing #
> 320-73002-10, I can send you copy if you want), then when the battery
> selector switch is in position 1 and the motor will start it makes
> absolutely no sense that the distribution panel is not powered properly. (By
>
> the way, does the engine start in the OFF position? This might explain
> something.) It's hard to imagine a bad selector switch or a bad battery
> could cause this problem. I suspect the wiring has been reconfigured
> somehow. I would start with trying to verify that the wiring is per the
> drawing I referenced earlier. Also, try to verify that the battery grounds
> are connected together with a very low resistance (i.e., large cable). Good
> luck and I'm interested in eventually knowing what the story is.
>
> CRA
> Rosebud #882
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Monte B." <mjbc60 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
>
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > The place I would start is trying to determine the age of the batteries.
> > The
> > life expectancy of these batteries runs the gamut depending on how you use
> > them and maintain them. If you are in the battery business, (you own a
> > boat)
> > get a commercial grade battery hydrometer to assess cell state of charge.
> > The specific gravity reading of the electrolyte roughly equates to the
> > state
> > of charge, I.E. 1240 = 12.4 volts. If after a full charge the readings
> > vary
> > by .2 or more you need to equalize the batteries. Throw away the
> > promariner
> > charger and get a Xantrex as it has an equalize mode. By the way, my
> > promariner also failed in the full charge mode and fried 2 4D batteries.
> > (8d,s wont go in the boxes without mods). The S.G. or state of charge will
> > not reveal capacity but as batteries age capacity always suffers due to
> > sulfation on the plates. The equalize mode counteracts this phenomena to a
> > degree. If your batteries are three or more years old they have done well
> > and they may not be shot but will suffer from reduced capacity. Five or
> > more
> > years and it is time to recycle from a reliability standpoint. I cannot
> > comment on the boat wiring, but it sounds like you may have a battery with
>
> > a
> > shorted cell.
> >
> > Monte
> > Laima #620
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> > BAdams3491 at aol.com
> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:33 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Battery Help / Confused ?
> >
> > Good advice.
> >
> > Bert
> > At Ease
> > #442
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 4/21/2008 5:10:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com writes:
> >
> > If this is your first experience with deep cycle batteries (or 12V
> > systems
> > on a boat), go to www.amazon.com and order this book, it's an invaluable
> > source of information on the subject.
> >
> >
> > Boatowner's Mechanical & Electrical Manual: How to Maintain, Repair, and
> > Improve Your Boat's Essential Systems (Hardcover)
> > by Nigel Calder (Author)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Joe Abbagnaro"
> > <jabbagna at gmail.
> > com> To
> > Sent by: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > c320-list-bounce cc
> > s at lists.catalina
> > 320.com Subject
> > Re: [C320-list] Battery Help /
> > Confused ?
> > 04/21/2008 03:05
> > PM
> >
> >
> > Please respond
> > to
> > C320-List at Catali
> > na320.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bert
> >
> > Why do you say the battery is 75% discharged.?
> > A 12 volt battery at rest I thought usually displays 12.2 - 12.4 volts
> > when not being charged, while being chrarged it is usually 14 + volts
> > and shorly after being charged 13+ volts and will eventually
> > stabalize to 12.2 - 12.4.
> >
> > This is my first experience with deep cycle batteries so if I am wrong
> > than let me know.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > The batteries are not orginals one was replced in 2005 and one in 2006,
> > The chrger is the original a Flyback Promariner that makes a lot of
> > noise,
> > which might need to be replaced.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Robert Seastream
> > <robert.seastream at comcast.net> wrote:
> >> And if the batteries are originals, depending on their care and feeding
> >> under the PO, it may be time for replacement.
> >>
> >> Bob Seastream
> >> Intuition # 906
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 21, 2008, at 3:29 PM, BAdams3491 at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > Part of the problem is the 12.4 volts...that's about 75% capacity.
> >> >
> >> > Bert
> >> > At Ease
> >> > #442
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In a message dated 4/21/2008 7:27:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >> > jabbagna at gmail.com writes:
> >> >
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > I have a 1999 320 Hull 574, I bought the boat from the original
> > owner.
> >> > It has 2 Batteries , NO Dedicated start battery. So I am pretty
> > confident
> >> > the wiring is original from the factory. Both batteries are reading
> >> > about 12.4 volts but I have no way to load test them. My problem has
> >> > me confused.
> >> >
> >> > 1) Select battery 1 Engine starts but no other accessories will
> > work.
> >> > If I turn on the map light it comes on at less than half light
> >> > than fades off after a second or so
> >> > to no light at all. Almost looks like a feed back condition
> >> > through the light.
> >> >
> >> > 2) Select Battery 2 Engine will NOTt start, but all the Accessories
> >> > will work when powered on.
> >> >
> >> > 3) Select ALL and Engine starts all Accessories work.
> >> >
> >> > Do I have a bad Battery, or possibly a Bad selector switch.
> >> >
> >> > Joe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
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