[C320-list] upgrading mainsheet jam cleat

[Matt Curtis]

I have a similar problem.  I do not like to use the winch as a cleat.  That's why I am looking to upgrade to a line clutch...but the cam cleat idea mentioned in an earlier post may work well enough for my needs.  I'm going to take a close look at my cabintop this weekend.  That way I would not have to mess around with the difficult task of removing the jam cleat that is very well adhered to the deck!

  -Matt
  Tortuga, #541
  
crashley at gte.net wrote:
  Matt,

That makes sense, although I have more trouble keeping the main sheet IN the 
jam cleat when I want it there as opposed to having it go there when it 
shouldn't.

CRA
Rosebud #882

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Curtis" 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] upgrading mainsheet jam cleat


> The sheet goes over the clips. The clips are to prevent the line from 
> accidentally jamming when you don't want it to (in the flipped-up 
> position). If you put the sheet under the clips, they will break.
>
> -Matt Curtis
> Tortuga, #541
>
> crashley at gte.net wrote:
> I still have the red clips (on both sides) but I can't figure out what
> they're for. Should the main sheet go under them or over them? Mine is 
> over
> them so the clips just lie there.
>
> CRA
> Rosebud #882
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Denny Browne"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] upgrading mainsheet jam cleat
>
>
>> Good question. I've never replaced mine, either, but I'm sure I was told
>> by
>> someone that you can. Probably from Harken. I'll send them a note and 
>> ask.
>>
>> Denny Browne
>> T: 310-387-2235
>> F: 310-316-0154
>> denny at dennybrowne.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chef Adam
>> Weiner
>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:19 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] upgrading mainsheet jam cleat
>>
>> Where do you get the little red clips? Mine broke about 7 years ago and
>> it
>> has been on my list, but not really a priority.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Denny 
>> Browne
>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:45 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] upgrading mainsheet jam cleat
>>
>> I left it on and occasionally actually use it. Whenever we hoist a
>> spinnaker
>> we need to free up the winch to use it for the halyard. This is usually
>> done
>> when we're sailing close hauled, so it's a pretty simple matter to just
>> put
>> downward pressure on the mainsheet as you ease the line on the winch.
>> It'll
>> hold there with no problem while we get the spinnaker halyard ready. When
>> we
>> are ready to fall off we simply yank the mainsheet out of the jam cleat
>> and
>> the release of power in the mainsail makes it very easy to turn. If you
>> fall
>> off before releasing the sheet it's hard to turn the boat as the main
>> wants
>> to drive it to weather. I'd leave them and simply add the Harken 280
>> offshore aluminum cam cleats. You can buy those little red clips to go on
>> the jam cleats, and they'll keep the mainsheet from accidentally finding
>> their way into the cleat.
>>
>> Denny Browne
>> A Cappella #935
>> Redondo Beach
>> denny at dennybrowne.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Matt Curtis
>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:02 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] upgrading mainsheet jam cleat
>>
>> Thanks Denny. Did you remove the jam cleats when you installed the cams,
>> or
>> did you leave them installed. It looks like I will have to apply heat to
>> the jam cleat to remove it, as there is some pretty serious adhesive
>> between
>> it and the mounting area.
>>
>> -Matt Curtis
>> Tortugam #541
>>
>> Denny Browne wrote:
>> The jam cleats are really only there in case you need to remove the
>> mainsheet from the winch to put a halyard temporarily on it. The boat's
>> delivered with a little clip that you can flip over top of the jam cleat
>> to
>> keep the sheet from accidentally falling into the cleat. This clip 
>> usually
>> breaks off in the first day or two.
>>
>> I've placed two large Harken cam cleats at the aft edge of the cabin top
>> directly behind where the mainsheet exits the line organizer on each 
>> side.
>> My mainsheet is double ended so it can be trimmed from either side. This
>> works very well when sailing off the wind and at the dock but you need 
>> the
>> winch to pull the sheet tight enough to control sail shape when sailing
>> upwind.
>>
>> Denny Browne
>> A Cappella #935
>> Redondo Beach, CA
>> denny at dennybrowne.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Matt Curtis
>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:27 AM
>> To: c320-list at catalina320.org
>> Subject: [C320-list] upgrading mainsheet jam cleat
>>
>> Has anyone upgraded the mainsheet jam cleat to some other system? My wife
>> hates the jam cleats, and I must admit I'm not a big fan, either. I have
>> been thinking about installing rope clutches. One of my concerns is that
>> the space on the mounting area is a bit limited on theside where the jam
>> cleat is located. Does anyone have Aany thoughts or experiences to share?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Matt Curtis
>> Tortuga, #541
>>
>>
>> Matthew Curtis
>> mcurtis_6775 at yahoo.com
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