[C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

[Jon Vez]

Kirk,

Since the wire runs to the shunt are short in distance, 4 is fine. I
actually bought the pre-swaged 4AWG with the gold coated eyes at WM. I think
I bought the 12 inch lengths. As far as the monitoring since it is the
single battery monitor and the shunt only *sees* the house bank (mine is set
up like yours--2 4D's wired together for a single house) and that is the
only one I care about monitoring since my starter is always full. I also use
a battery combiner so that I can charge both the house and starter while
motoring from the single alternator feed while the battery selector is set
to my starting battery...

Regards,

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
McCullough
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:32 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

Jon yes this helps. I saw the drawing for your boat that I believe Jeff did 
for you.

I'll get a block and mount it by the batteries as you did, this would allow 
me to connect all the negative loads to that block, then to the shunt, then 
out of the shunt to the negative battery post. What size wire did you use to

connect the shunt to the battery and the new terminal block.? The negative 
load cables on Boomerang are all #4 wire. Would this be big enough to 
connect the shunt?

I am thinking based on what you said about the L10 not seeing the starting 
battery when switched to position #2 must be the fact that the shunt does 
not pick up the load from the start battery, I guess because its wired only 
to the house bank.

Thanks Again

Kirk

#124


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger


>
> Kirk,
>
> Probably best for the true expert Jeff Hare to weigh in, but my DC ground 
> is
> simply through the existing Neg circuit so I did not add an additional. As
> far as the Link 10--it will only monitor one bank--if I understand your
> question correctly, when switch to the starter, the L10 will not then
> monitor that bank. I ended up epoxying a small block next to my battery 
> bank
> and mounted the shunt there. I simply had my house bank run to the shunt
> along with appropriate L10 wires as indicated in the instructions. So all 
> of
> the loads that come through my house bank are monitored via the batteries.
> Hope this helps, but if you still have questions don't hesitate to ask...
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Vez
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> McCullough
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:01 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
> Again thanks to Herb, Jon, Bill, Karl, Allan, Jeff and all.
>
>    -More Questions
>
> I am starting the installation and have purchased breakers which I will
> install
> between the charger and each battery bank to solve that problem. They were
> recommended over fuses by the electrical installer at our yard.
>
> The Xantrex also has a chassis ground. How/where did you all connect to
> this ground. Is the DC ground going into the Neg connection on the charger
> not the same as the chassis ground point. Can I simply jumper over to the
> chassis ground connection from the Neg terminal or do I need to run a
> separate wire back to the ground behind the electrical panel?
>
> I also purchased the Link 10 and want to install it. I saw the drawing on
> the website, and see that all loads need to be connected after the shunt.
> These loads inlcude the charger, the windlass, the DC panel etc. Can I
> connect those cables
> directly to the shunt terminal or do I need a separate ground connector
> installed somewhere near the battery. I intend to use the Link 10 for the
> house bank only (2 X 4D), but if I switch to the starting battery will the
> Link
> 10 then monitor the starting battery? I have the house on position #1 and
> the
> starting Batt on position #2.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
>
>> Kirk,
>>
>> The fuses are actually a bit hard to find for the size of the cabling. I
>> ended up getting them from Crutchfield--they are sold for automotive
>> purposes, but they are gold coated and corrosion is not an issue....
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>> Solstice #582
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>> McCullough
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:43 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>> Thanks Bill I do remember the story of the fire, and yes my hull #124 
>> does
>> not currently have them, so as part of my new Xantrex installation I will
>> add the fuses. I bought the TC 40+ and the manual asks for a DC cct
>> breaker
>> or DC fuse and disconnect rated at 50 amps at each bank.
>>
>> I now need to look around for this hardware, should be easy to find I
>> expect.
>>
>> Thanks again to all who have given me some great input.
>>
>> Kirk
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Culbertson
>> Sent: 10 February 2008 13:18
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>> Kirk,
>>
>> re: DC fuse at each battery.  I believe that your older (#124) boat does
>> not
>> have them unless you or someone added them.
>> At some point (I don't know when) Catalina added them to the production
>> model.  My boat #859 has them and
>> they're documented in the electrical drawings for the boat.  The fuses 
>> are
>> inline in the charger -> battery cable
>> about 4"-6" before the connection to the battery.  Catalina may have
>> started
>> fusing the battery charger lines after the fire on
>> Kit Carson's boat.  Kit contributes to this maillist, is a member of the
>> 320
>> association and has attended most or all of
>> the annual regattas.
>>
>> -bill
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:59:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>> Thanks to all for the quick responses. I'm off to the boat show
>> (Vancouver)
>> today to make the purchase. Not sure which way I will go,  but now I know
>> that either will do the job, and I just need to analyze my own needs. We
>> do
>> stay on the hook for several days at a time, but then we balance that out
>> with a a couple of days dockside. For days when Boomerang is at her
>> homeport, I have
>> never run the fridge when not on board because of the Pro-Mariner
>> concerns.
>> So a big improvement will be cold drinks whenever I go to the boat. And
>> the
>> constant humming will be history!
>>
>> The part about existing wiring size working for the 10+ but not 20+ may
>> influence me.
>>
>> I found a Xantrex manual on line and for both the 20+ and 40+ chargers
>> they
>> call for a fuse on the DC side for each battery bank. I don't believe I
>> have
>>
>> fuses on each bank with the Pro-Mariner. Has everyone installed these as
>> part of the project?
>>
>> I like Herb's idea to mount it on a back panel, this would retain the
>> existing 4 mounting holes on the bulkhead.
>>
>> I have the 2 x 4D paralleled for the house bank on position #1 and a 
>> group
>> 27 starter on position #2.
>>
>> I am seriously looking at the link 20 also. I understand this is much
>> better
>>
>> than the remote monitor they offer. Has anyone added the temperature
>> sensor?
>>
>> Kirk
>> #124
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>>> Kirk,
>>>
>>> I used the Xantrex 20 for a 400ah house and a group 27 starter (don't
>>> recall
>>> how many amp hours that one is). When I did this project I replaced my
>>> batteries (died and early death from the ProMariner) and added the
>>> starter.
>>> Very easy job (Herb's description is very good). The only difference for
>>> me
>>> is I did not use a bus bar. Instead I peeled off just enough wiring to
>>> fit
>>> the 4awg into the monel fittings (with Mr. Hare's advice)...has worked
>>> great
>>> for 4 seasons...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jon Vez
>>> Solstice #582
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>>> McCullough
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:29 AM
>>> To: C320-List
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>>
>>> I know this has been discussed already, but I would like to know what
>>> size
>>> charger is needed or best suited. I am considering the Xantrex iether 20
>>> amp
>>> or 40 amp.
>>>
>>> Any installation tips would also be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Kirk
>>>
>>> Boomerang #124
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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