[C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

[Kirk McCullough]

thanks Jon

Great input I'll check out WM for the preswaged wiring. I'll go with 4 AWG.

I don't have a combiner so for now I'll need to marshall the charge time
between House and Starter as we motor. Oh well, I need to go below for a
cold one from time to time anyway. :)

Kirk
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger


> Kirk,
>
> Since the wire runs to the shunt are short in distance, 4 is fine. I
> actually bought the pre-swaged 4AWG with the gold coated eyes at WM. I
> think
> I bought the 12 inch lengths. As far as the monitoring since it is the
> single battery monitor and the shunt only *sees* the house bank (mine is
> set
> up like yours--2 4D's wired together for a single house) and that is the
> only one I care about monitoring since my starter is always full. I also
> use
> a battery combiner so that I can charge both the house and starter while
> motoring from the single alternator feed while the battery selector is set
> to my starting battery...
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> McCullough
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:32 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
> Jon yes this helps. I saw the drawing for your boat that I believe Jeff
> did
> for you.
>
> I'll get a block and mount it by the batteries as you did, this would
> allow
> me to connect all the negative loads to that block, then to the shunt,
> then
> out of the shunt to the negative battery post. What size wire did you use
> to
>
> connect the shunt to the battery and the new terminal block.? The negative
> load cables on Boomerang are all #4 wire. Would this be big enough to
> connect the shunt?
>
> I am thinking based on what you said about the L10 not seeing the starting
> battery when switched to position #2 must be the fact that the shunt does
> not pick up the load from the start battery, I guess because its wired
> only
> to the house bank.
>
> Thanks Again
>
> Kirk
>
> #124
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
>
>>
>> Kirk,
>>
>> Probably best for the true expert Jeff Hare to weigh in, but my DC ground
>> is
>> simply through the existing Neg circuit so I did not add an additional.
>> As
>> far as the Link 10--it will only monitor one bank--if I understand your
>> question correctly, when switch to the starter, the L10 will not then
>> monitor that bank. I ended up epoxying a small block next to my battery
>> bank
>> and mounted the shunt there. I simply had my house bank run to the shunt
>> along with appropriate L10 wires as indicated in the instructions. So all
>> of
>> the loads that come through my house bank are monitored via the
>> batteries.
>> Hope this helps, but if you still have questions don't hesitate to ask...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>> McCullough
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:01 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>> Again thanks to Herb, Jon, Bill, Karl, Allan, Jeff and all.
>>
>>    -More Questions
>>
>> I am starting the installation and have purchased breakers which I will
>> install
>> between the charger and each battery bank to solve that problem. They
>> were
>> recommended over fuses by the electrical installer at our yard.
>>
>> The Xantrex also has a chassis ground. How/where did you all connect to
>> this ground. Is the DC ground going into the Neg connection on the
>> charger
>> not the same as the chassis ground point. Can I simply jumper over to the
>> chassis ground connection from the Neg terminal or do I need to run a
>> separate wire back to the ground behind the electrical panel?
>>
>> I also purchased the Link 10 and want to install it. I saw the drawing on
>> the website, and see that all loads need to be connected after the shunt.
>> These loads inlcude the charger, the windlass, the DC panel etc. Can I
>> connect those cables
>> directly to the shunt terminal or do I need a separate ground connector
>> installed somewhere near the battery. I intend to use the Link 10 for the
>> house bank only (2 X 4D), but if I switch to the starting battery will
>> the
>> Link
>> 10 then monitor the starting battery? I have the house on position #1 and
>> the
>> starting Batt on position #2.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>>> Kirk,
>>>
>>> The fuses are actually a bit hard to find for the size of the cabling. I
>>> ended up getting them from Crutchfield--they are sold for automotive
>>> purposes, but they are gold coated and corrosion is not an issue....
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jon Vez
>>> Solstice #582
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>>> McCullough
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:43 PM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>>
>>> Thanks Bill I do remember the story of the fire, and yes my hull #124
>>> does
>>> not currently have them, so as part of my new Xantrex installation I
>>> will
>>> add the fuses. I bought the TC 40+ and the manual asks for a DC cct
>>> breaker
>>> or DC fuse and disconnect rated at 50 amps at each bank.
>>>
>>> I now need to look around for this hardware, should be easy to find I
>>> expect.
>>>
>>> Thanks again to all who have given me some great input.
>>>
>>> Kirk
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>>> Culbertson
>>> Sent: 10 February 2008 13:18
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>>
>>> Kirk,
>>>
>>> re: DC fuse at each battery.  I believe that your older (#124) boat does
>>> not
>>> have them unless you or someone added them.
>>> At some point (I don't know when) Catalina added them to the production
>>> model.  My boat #859 has them and
>>> they're documented in the electrical drawings for the boat.  The fuses
>>> are
>>> inline in the charger -> battery cable
>>> about 4"-6" before the connection to the battery.  Catalina may have
>>> started
>>> fusing the battery charger lines after the fire on
>>> Kit Carson's boat.  Kit contributes to this maillist, is a member of the
>>> 320
>>> association and has attended most or all of
>>> the annual regattas.
>>>
>>> -bill
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:59:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>>
>>> Thanks to all for the quick responses. I'm off to the boat show
>>> (Vancouver)
>>> today to make the purchase. Not sure which way I will go,  but now I
>>> know
>>> that either will do the job, and I just need to analyze my own needs. We
>>> do
>>> stay on the hook for several days at a time, but then we balance that
>>> out
>>> with a a couple of days dockside. For days when Boomerang is at her
>>> homeport, I have
>>> never run the fridge when not on board because of the Pro-Mariner
>>> concerns.
>>> So a big improvement will be cold drinks whenever I go to the boat. And
>>> the
>>> constant humming will be history!
>>>
>>> The part about existing wiring size working for the 10+ but not 20+ may
>>> influence me.
>>>
>>> I found a Xantrex manual on line and for both the 20+ and 40+ chargers
>>> they
>>> call for a fuse on the DC side for each battery bank. I don't believe I
>>> have
>>>
>>> fuses on each bank with the Pro-Mariner. Has everyone installed these as
>>> part of the project?
>>>
>>> I like Herb's idea to mount it on a back panel, this would retain the
>>> existing 4 mounting holes on the bulkhead.
>>>
>>> I have the 2 x 4D paralleled for the house bank on position #1 and a
>>> group
>>> 27 starter on position #2.
>>>
>>> I am seriously looking at the link 20 also. I understand this is much
>>> better
>>>
>>> than the remote monitor they offer. Has anyone added the temperature
>>> sensor?
>>>
>>> Kirk
>>> #124
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>>
>>>
>>>> Kirk,
>>>>
>>>> I used the Xantrex 20 for a 400ah house and a group 27 starter (don't
>>>> recall
>>>> how many amp hours that one is). When I did this project I replaced my
>>>> batteries (died and early death from the ProMariner) and added the
>>>> starter.
>>>> Very easy job (Herb's description is very good). The only difference
>>>> for
>>>> me
>>>> is I did not use a bus bar. Instead I peeled off just enough wiring to
>>>> fit
>>>> the 4awg into the monel fittings (with Mr. Hare's advice)...has worked
>>>> great
>>>> for 4 seasons...
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jon Vez
>>>> Solstice #582
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>>>> McCullough
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:29 AM
>>>> To: C320-List
>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>>>
>>>> I know this has been discussed already, but I would like to know what
>>>> size
>>>> charger is needed or best suited. I am considering the Xantrex iether
>>>> 20
>>>> amp
>>>> or 40 amp.
>>>>
>>>> Any installation tips would also be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Kirk
>>>>
>>>> Boomerang #124
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
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