[C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

Fri Feb 15 05:48:44 PST 2008

Allan,

One comment on your set up. Why do you have the 2 house 4D batteries 
separate if ypu have a third starting battery? I configured my system like 
Kirk's so that the two 4Ds are connected in parallel as battery 1 and the 
3rd "starter" battery is battery2. This way the depth of discharge on the 
house is 1/2 of what it would be when using only one of the 4Ds, unless you 
remember to switch batteries during a long discharge periods. Just curious.

I also have a link 20 so the house and starter can be separately monitored.

CRA
Rosebud #882

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allan S. Field" <allan.field at comcast.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

> Kirk - I can't answer most of your questions as I had a professional
> install.  But here is how I use the Link.  First off, I got the Link 20 -
> this means that each house battery is monitored independently.  In 6 
> years,
> I have not seen the need for a separate starting battery as the Link-20
> always tells me at a glance the condition of my 2 house batteries.
>
> As I said in a previous post, we run the fridge 24/7 from March thru
> November.  While at the dock, I keep the battery switch on #1 during the 
> odd
> number months and switch over to #2 during the even number months.  When 
> out
> for several days at a time, I switch back and forth each day.  When out
> overnight, I rarely am unable to start the engine on the battery that has
> been drawing the past 24 hours but just in case, I always have the other 
> to
> rely on.  But I never keep have the switch on ALL unless needed for
> starting.  Again, the Link-20 allows me to see at a glance how each 
> battery
> is doing.  If not too late, I would encourage you to look at the Link-20 
> vs.
> the 10.  But if I understand your post correctly, you may have a starting
> battery plus the 2 house batteries?  If so, do they make a Link-30?  Or
> should you be looking at a Heart Interface?
>
> Hopes this helps.
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sea Shadow - #808
> Columbia, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> McCullough
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:01 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
> Again thanks to Herb, Jon, Bill, Karl, Allan, Jeff and all.
>
>    -More Questions
>
> I am starting the installation and have purchased breakers which I will
> install
> between the charger and each battery bank to solve that problem. They were
> recommended over fuses by the electrical installer at our yard.
>
> The Xantrex also has a chassis ground. How/where did you all connect to
> this ground. Is the DC ground going into the Neg connection on the charger
> not the same as the chassis ground point. Can I simply jumper over to the
> chassis ground connection from the Neg terminal or do I need to run a
> separate wire back to the ground behind the electrical panel?
>
> I also purchased the Link 10 and want to install it. I saw the drawing on
> the website, and see that all loads need to be connected after the shunt.
> These loads inlcude the charger, the windlass, the DC panel etc. Can I
> connect those cables
> directly to the shunt terminal or do I need a separate ground connector
> installed somewhere near the battery. I intend to use the Link 10 for the
> house bank only (2 X 4D), but if I switch to the starting battery will the
> Link
> 10 then monitor the starting battery? I have the house on position #1 and
> the
> starting Batt on position #2.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
>
>> Kirk,
>>
>> The fuses are actually a bit hard to find for the size of the cabling. I
>> ended up getting them from Crutchfield--they are sold for automotive
>> purposes, but they are gold coated and corrosion is not an issue....
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Vez
>> Solstice #582
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>> McCullough
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:43 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>> Thanks Bill I do remember the story of the fire, and yes my hull #124 
>> does
>> not currently have them, so as part of my new Xantrex installation I will
>> add the fuses. I bought the TC 40+ and the manual asks for a DC cct
>> breaker
>> or DC fuse and disconnect rated at 50 amps at each bank.
>>
>> I now need to look around for this hardware, should be easy to find I
>> expect.
>>
>> Thanks again to all who have given me some great input.
>>
>> Kirk
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Culbertson
>> Sent: 10 February 2008 13:18
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>> Kirk,
>>
>> re: DC fuse at each battery.  I believe that your older (#124) boat does
>> not
>> have them unless you or someone added them.
>> At some point (I don't know when) Catalina added them to the production
>> model.  My boat #859 has them and
>> they're documented in the electrical drawings for the boat.  The fuses 
>> are
>> inline in the charger -> battery cable
>> about 4"-6" before the connection to the battery.  Catalina may have
>> started
>> fusing the battery charger lines after the fire on
>> Kit Carson's boat.  Kit contributes to this maillist, is a member of the
>> 320
>> association and has attended most or all of
>> the annual regattas.
>>
>> -bill
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:59:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>> Thanks to all for the quick responses. I'm off to the boat show
>> (Vancouver)
>> today to make the purchase. Not sure which way I will go,  but now I know
>> that either will do the job, and I just need to analyze my own needs. We
>> do
>> stay on the hook for several days at a time, but then we balance that out
>> with a a couple of days dockside. For days when Boomerang is at her
>> homeport, I have
>> never run the fridge when not on board because of the Pro-Mariner
>> concerns.
>> So a big improvement will be cold drinks whenever I go to the boat. And
>> the
>> constant humming will be history!
>>
>> The part about existing wiring size working for the 10+ but not 20+ may
>> influence me.
>>
>> I found a Xantrex manual on line and for both the 20+ and 40+ chargers
>> they
>> call for a fuse on the DC side for each battery bank. I don't believe I
>> have
>>
>> fuses on each bank with the Pro-Mariner. Has everyone installed these as
>> part of the project?
>>
>> I like Herb's idea to mount it on a back panel, this would retain the
>> existing 4 mounting holes on the bulkhead.
>>
>> I have the 2 x 4D paralleled for the house bank on position #1 and a 
>> group
>> 27 starter on position #2.
>>
>> I am seriously looking at the link 20 also. I understand this is much
>> better
>>
>> than the remote monitor they offer. Has anyone added the temperature
>> sensor?
>>
>> Kirk
>> #124
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>
>>
>>> Kirk,
>>>
>>> I used the Xantrex 20 for a 400ah house and a group 27 starter (don't
>>> recall
>>> how many amp hours that one is). When I did this project I replaced my
>>> batteries (died and early death from the ProMariner) and added the
>>> starter.
>>> Very easy job (Herb's description is very good). The only difference for
>>> me
>>> is I did not use a bus bar. Instead I peeled off just enough wiring to
>>> fit
>>> the 4awg into the monel fittings (with Mr. Hare's advice)...has worked
>>> great
>>> for 4 seasons...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jon Vez
>>> Solstice #582
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
>>> McCullough
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:29 AM
>>> To: C320-List
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>>>
>>> I know this has been discussed already, but I would like to know what
>>> size
>>> charger is needed or best suited. I am considering the Xantrex iether 20
>>> amp
>>> or 40 amp.
>>>
>>> Any installation tips would also be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Kirk
>>>
>>> Boomerang #124
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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