[C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

Fri Feb 15 12:26:11 PST 2008

I'd like to interject a dumb question to owners of later models. How do you
remove the wood panel with the A-B selector switch without removing the
chainplate rod?

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net> wrote:

> Kirk,
>
> A 50 Amp Combiner costs about 50 bucks and you can install it in about 10
> minutes. You simply connect each lead to the 1 and the 2 setting on the
> back
> of your Battery selector. It's about the size of a pack of gum so you
> simply
> attach it behind the electrical panel. The advantage is not only being
> able
> to charge both batteries, it also will keep the two batteries isolated
> automatically--
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> McCullough
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:41 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
> thanks Jon
>
> Great input I'll check out WM for the preswaged wiring. I'll go with 4
> AWG.
>
> I don't have a combiner so for now I'll need to marshall the charge time
> between House and Starter as we motor. Oh well, I need to go below for a
> cold one from time to time anyway. :)
>
> Kirk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
>
> > Kirk,
> >
> > Since the wire runs to the shunt are short in distance, 4 is fine. I
> > actually bought the pre-swaged 4AWG with the gold coated eyes at WM. I
> > think
> > I bought the 12 inch lengths. As far as the monitoring since it is the
> > single battery monitor and the shunt only *sees* the house bank (mine is
> > set
> > up like yours--2 4D's wired together for a single house) and that is the
> > only one I care about monitoring since my starter is always full. I also
> > use
> > a battery combiner so that I can charge both the house and starter while
> > motoring from the single alternator feed while the battery selector is
> set
> > to my starting battery...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> > McCullough
> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:32 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >
> > Jon yes this helps. I saw the drawing for your boat that I believe Jeff
> > did
> > for you.
> >
> > I'll get a block and mount it by the batteries as you did, this would
> > allow
> > me to connect all the negative loads to that block, then to the shunt,
> > then
> > out of the shunt to the negative battery post. What size wire did you
> use
> > to
> >
> > connect the shunt to the battery and the new terminal block.? The
> negative
> > load cables on Boomerang are all #4 wire. Would this be big enough to
> > connect the shunt?
> >
> > I am thinking based on what you said about the L10 not seeing the
> starting
> > battery when switched to position #2 must be the fact that the shunt
> does
> > not pick up the load from the start battery, I guess because its wired
> > only
> > to the house bank.
> >
> > Thanks Again
> >
> > Kirk
> >
> > #124
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Kirk,
> >>
> >> Probably best for the true expert Jeff Hare to weigh in, but my DC
> ground
> >> is
> >> simply through the existing Neg circuit so I did not add an additional.
> >> As
> >> far as the Link 10--it will only monitor one bank--if I understand your
> >> question correctly, when switch to the starter, the L10 will not then
> >> monitor that bank. I ended up epoxying a small block next to my battery
> >> bank
> >> and mounted the shunt there. I simply had my house bank run to the
> shunt
> >> along with appropriate L10 wires as indicated in the instructions. So
> all
> >> of
> >> the loads that come through my house bank are monitored via the
> >> batteries.
> >> Hope this helps, but if you still have questions don't hesitate to
> ask...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Jon Vez
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> >> McCullough
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:01 PM
> >> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>
> >> Again thanks to Herb, Jon, Bill, Karl, Allan, Jeff and all.
> >>
> >>    -More Questions
> >>
> >> I am starting the installation and have purchased breakers which I will
> >> install
> >> between the charger and each battery bank to solve that problem. They
> >> were
> >> recommended over fuses by the electrical installer at our yard.
> >>
> >> The Xantrex also has a chassis ground. How/where did you all connect to
> >> this ground. Is the DC ground going into the Neg connection on the
> >> charger
> >> not the same as the chassis ground point. Can I simply jumper over to
> the
> >> chassis ground connection from the Neg terminal or do I need to run a
> >> separate wire back to the ground behind the electrical panel?
> >>
> >> I also purchased the Link 10 and want to install it. I saw the drawing
> on
> >> the website, and see that all loads need to be connected after the
> shunt.
> >> These loads inlcude the charger, the windlass, the DC panel etc. Can I
> >> connect those cables
> >> directly to the shunt terminal or do I need a separate ground connector
> >> installed somewhere near the battery. I intend to use the Link 10 for
> the
> >> house bank only (2 X 4D), but if I switch to the starting battery will
> >> the
> >> Link
> >> 10 then monitor the starting battery? I have the house on position #1
> and
> >> the
> >> starting Batt on position #2.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> >> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:37 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>
> >>
> >>> Kirk,
> >>>
> >>> The fuses are actually a bit hard to find for the size of the cabling.
> I
> >>> ended up getting them from Crutchfield--they are sold for automotive
> >>> purposes, but they are gold coated and corrosion is not an issue....
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Jon Vez
> >>> Solstice #582
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> >>> McCullough
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:43 PM
> >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Bill I do remember the story of the fire, and yes my hull #124
> >>> does
> >>> not currently have them, so as part of my new Xantrex installation I
> >>> will
> >>> add the fuses. I bought the TC 40+ and the manual asks for a DC cct
> >>> breaker
> >>> or DC fuse and disconnect rated at 50 amps at each bank.
> >>>
> >>> I now need to look around for this hardware, should be easy to find I
> >>> expect.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again to all who have given me some great input.
> >>>
> >>> Kirk
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> >>> Culbertson
> >>> Sent: 10 February 2008 13:18
> >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>>
> >>> Kirk,
> >>>
> >>> re: DC fuse at each battery.  I believe that your older (#124) boat
> does
> >>> not
> >>> have them unless you or someone added them.
> >>> At some point (I don't know when) Catalina added them to the
> production
> >>> model.  My boat #859 has them and
> >>> they're documented in the electrical drawings for the boat.  The fuses
> >>> are
> >>> inline in the charger -> battery cable
> >>> about 4"-6" before the connection to the battery.  Catalina may have
> >>> started
> >>> fusing the battery charger lines after the fire on
> >>> Kit Carson's boat.  Kit contributes to this maillist, is a member of
> the
> >>> 320
> >>> association and has attended most or all of
> >>> the annual regattas.
> >>>
> >>> -bill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
> >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:59:49 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to all for the quick responses. I'm off to the boat show
> >>> (Vancouver)
> >>> today to make the purchase. Not sure which way I will go,  but now I
> >>> know
> >>> that either will do the job, and I just need to analyze my own needs.
> We
> >>> do
> >>> stay on the hook for several days at a time, but then we balance that
> >>> out
> >>> with a a couple of days dockside. For days when Boomerang is at her
> >>> homeport, I have
> >>> never run the fridge when not on board because of the Pro-Mariner
> >>> concerns.
> >>> So a big improvement will be cold drinks whenever I go to the boat.
> And
> >>> the
> >>> constant humming will be history!
> >>>
> >>> The part about existing wiring size working for the 10+ but not 20+
> may
> >>> influence me.
> >>>
> >>> I found a Xantrex manual on line and for both the 20+ and 40+ chargers
> >>> they
> >>> call for a fuse on the DC side for each battery bank. I don't believe
> I
> >>> have
> >>>
> >>> fuses on each bank with the Pro-Mariner. Has everyone installed these
> as
> >>> part of the project?
> >>>
> >>> I like Herb's idea to mount it on a back panel, this would retain the
> >>> existing 4 mounting holes on the bulkhead.
> >>>
> >>> I have the 2 x 4D paralleled for the house bank on position #1 and a
> >>> group
> >>> 27 starter on position #2.
> >>>
> >>> I am seriously looking at the link 20 also. I understand this is much
> >>> better
> >>>
> >>> than the remote monitor they offer. Has anyone added the temperature
> >>> sensor?
> >>>
> >>> Kirk
> >>> #124
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> >>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:10 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Kirk,
> >>>>
> >>>> I used the Xantrex 20 for a 400ah house and a group 27 starter (don't
> >>>> recall
> >>>> how many amp hours that one is). When I did this project I replaced
> my
> >>>> batteries (died and early death from the ProMariner) and added the
> >>>> starter.
> >>>> Very easy job (Herb's description is very good). The only difference
> >>>> for
> >>>> me
> >>>> is I did not use a bus bar. Instead I peeled off just enough wiring
> to
> >>>> fit
> >>>> the 4awg into the monel fittings (with Mr. Hare's advice)...has
> worked
> >>>> great
> >>>> for 4 seasons...
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jon Vez
> >>>> Solstice #582
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> >>>> McCullough
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:29 AM
> >>>> To: C320-List
> >>>> Subject: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>>>
> >>>> I know this has been discussed already, but I would like to know what
> >>>> size
> >>>> charger is needed or best suited. I am considering the Xantrex iether
> >>>> 20
> >>>> amp
> >>>> or 40 amp.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any installation tips would also be much appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kirk
> >>>>
> >>>> Boomerang #124
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
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Chris Burti
Farmville, NC