[C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

[Jeff Hare]

Hi Chris,

It comes out.  Try this.  As you face the panel:

1) unscrew the magazine rack stop block that's on the Left end of that teak
mag-rack bar.
2) The Vertical divider has 2 teak blocks, one that screws up into the top
shelf, and one that screws down where the magazines sit.  They hold that
vertical divider panel in place.
3) unscrew the 4? Screws holding the electrical panel in place.
4) Push UP on the shelf and you'll be able to tip the top edge of that panel
out from under the shelf.  (You may want to try to push the bottom of that
panel in while tilting the top out.)

Note:  It's held pretty firmly by a bunch of 2/0 gauge wires and #4 wires to
the anchor windlass power, so all you're really going to accomplish is to
tilt it out to gain access to the back of the switch.  Be careful because
there's a 110v outlet wired back there.

-Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Burti
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:26 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

I'd like to interject a dumb question to owners of later models. How do you
remove the wood panel with the A-B selector switch without removing the
chainplate rod?

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net> wrote:

> Kirk,
>
> A 50 Amp Combiner costs about 50 bucks and you can install it in about 10
> minutes. You simply connect each lead to the 1 and the 2 setting on the
> back
> of your Battery selector. It's about the size of a pack of gum so you
> simply
> attach it behind the electrical panel. The advantage is not only being
> able
> to charge both batteries, it also will keep the two batteries isolated
> automatically--
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> McCullough
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:41 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
> thanks Jon
>
> Great input I'll check out WM for the preswaged wiring. I'll go with 4
> AWG.
>
> I don't have a combiner so for now I'll need to marshall the charge time
> between House and Starter as we motor. Oh well, I need to go below for a
> cold one from time to time anyway. :)
>
> Kirk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
>
> > Kirk,
> >
> > Since the wire runs to the shunt are short in distance, 4 is fine. I
> > actually bought the pre-swaged 4AWG with the gold coated eyes at WM. I
> > think
> > I bought the 12 inch lengths. As far as the monitoring since it is the
> > single battery monitor and the shunt only *sees* the house bank (mine is
> > set
> > up like yours--2 4D's wired together for a single house) and that is the
> > only one I care about monitoring since my starter is always full. I also
> > use
> > a battery combiner so that I can charge both the house and starter while
> > motoring from the single alternator feed while the battery selector is
> set
> > to my starting battery...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> > McCullough
> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:32 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >
> > Jon yes this helps. I saw the drawing for your boat that I believe Jeff
> > did
> > for you.
> >
> > I'll get a block and mount it by the batteries as you did, this would
> > allow
> > me to connect all the negative loads to that block, then to the shunt,
> > then
> > out of the shunt to the negative battery post. What size wire did you
> use
> > to
> >
> > connect the shunt to the battery and the new terminal block.? The
> negative
> > load cables on Boomerang are all #4 wire. Would this be big enough to
> > connect the shunt?
> >
> > I am thinking based on what you said about the L10 not seeing the
> starting
> > battery when switched to position #2 must be the fact that the shunt
> does
> > not pick up the load from the start battery, I guess because its wired
> > only
> > to the house bank.
> >
> > Thanks Again
> >
> > Kirk
> >
> > #124
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Kirk,
> >>
> >> Probably best for the true expert Jeff Hare to weigh in, but my DC
> ground
> >> is
> >> simply through the existing Neg circuit so I did not add an additional.
> >> As
> >> far as the Link 10--it will only monitor one bank--if I understand your
> >> question correctly, when switch to the starter, the L10 will not then
> >> monitor that bank. I ended up epoxying a small block next to my battery
> >> bank
> >> and mounted the shunt there. I simply had my house bank run to the
> shunt
> >> along with appropriate L10 wires as indicated in the instructions. So
> all
> >> of
> >> the loads that come through my house bank are monitored via the
> >> batteries.
> >> Hope this helps, but if you still have questions don't hesitate to
> ask...
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Jon Vez
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> >> McCullough
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:01 PM
> >> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>
> >> Again thanks to Herb, Jon, Bill, Karl, Allan, Jeff and all.
> >>
> >>    -More Questions
> >>
> >> I am starting the installation and have purchased breakers which I will
> >> install
> >> between the charger and each battery bank to solve that problem. They
> >> were
> >> recommended over fuses by the electrical installer at our yard.
> >>
> >> The Xantrex also has a chassis ground. How/where did you all connect to
> >> this ground. Is the DC ground going into the Neg connection on the
> >> charger
> >> not the same as the chassis ground point. Can I simply jumper over to
> the
> >> chassis ground connection from the Neg terminal or do I need to run a
> >> separate wire back to the ground behind the electrical panel?
> >>
> >> I also purchased the Link 10 and want to install it. I saw the drawing
> on
> >> the website, and see that all loads need to be connected after the
> shunt.
> >> These loads inlcude the charger, the windlass, the DC panel etc. Can I
> >> connect those cables
> >> directly to the shunt terminal or do I need a separate ground connector
> >> installed somewhere near the battery. I intend to use the Link 10 for
> the
> >> house bank only (2 X 4D), but if I switch to the starting battery will
> >> the
> >> Link
> >> 10 then monitor the starting battery? I have the house on position #1
> and
> >> the
> >> starting Batt on position #2.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> >> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:37 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>
> >>
> >>> Kirk,
> >>>
> >>> The fuses are actually a bit hard to find for the size of the cabling.
> I
> >>> ended up getting them from Crutchfield--they are sold for automotive
> >>> purposes, but they are gold coated and corrosion is not an issue....
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Jon Vez
> >>> Solstice #582
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> >>> McCullough
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:43 PM
> >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Bill I do remember the story of the fire, and yes my hull #124
> >>> does
> >>> not currently have them, so as part of my new Xantrex installation I
> >>> will
> >>> add the fuses. I bought the TC 40+ and the manual asks for a DC cct
> >>> breaker
> >>> or DC fuse and disconnect rated at 50 amps at each bank.
> >>>
> >>> I now need to look around for this hardware, should be easy to find I
> >>> expect.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again to all who have given me some great input.
> >>>
> >>> Kirk
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> >>> Culbertson
> >>> Sent: 10 February 2008 13:18
> >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>>
> >>> Kirk,
> >>>
> >>> re: DC fuse at each battery.  I believe that your older (#124) boat
> does
> >>> not
> >>> have them unless you or someone added them.
> >>> At some point (I don't know when) Catalina added them to the
> production
> >>> model.  My boat #859 has them and
> >>> they're documented in the electrical drawings for the boat.  The fuses
> >>> are
> >>> inline in the charger -> battery cable
> >>> about 4"-6" before the connection to the battery.  Catalina may have
> >>> started
> >>> fusing the battery charger lines after the fire on
> >>> Kit Carson's boat.  Kit contributes to this maillist, is a member of
> the
> >>> 320
> >>> association and has attended most or all of
> >>> the annual regattas.
> >>>
> >>> -bill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
> >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:59:49 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to all for the quick responses. I'm off to the boat show
> >>> (Vancouver)
> >>> today to make the purchase. Not sure which way I will go,  but now I
> >>> know
> >>> that either will do the job, and I just need to analyze my own needs.
> We
> >>> do
> >>> stay on the hook for several days at a time, but then we balance that
> >>> out
> >>> with a a couple of days dockside. For days when Boomerang is at her
> >>> homeport, I have
> >>> never run the fridge when not on board because of the Pro-Mariner
> >>> concerns.
> >>> So a big improvement will be cold drinks whenever I go to the boat.
> And
> >>> the
> >>> constant humming will be history!
> >>>
> >>> The part about existing wiring size working for the 10+ but not 20+
> may
> >>> influence me.
> >>>
> >>> I found a Xantrex manual on line and for both the 20+ and 40+ chargers
> >>> they
> >>> call for a fuse on the DC side for each battery bank. I don't believe
> I
> >>> have
> >>>
> >>> fuses on each bank with the Pro-Mariner. Has everyone installed these
> as
> >>> part of the project?
> >>>
> >>> I like Herb's idea to mount it on a back panel, this would retain the
> >>> existing 4 mounting holes on the bulkhead.
> >>>
> >>> I have the 2 x 4D paralleled for the house bank on position #1 and a
> >>> group
> >>> 27 starter on position #2.
> >>>
> >>> I am seriously looking at the link 20 also. I understand this is much
> >>> better
> >>>
> >>> than the remote monitor they offer. Has anyone added the temperature
> >>> sensor?
> >>>
> >>> Kirk
> >>> #124
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> >>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:10 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Kirk,
> >>>>
> >>>> I used the Xantrex 20 for a 400ah house and a group 27 starter (don't
> >>>> recall
> >>>> how many amp hours that one is). When I did this project I replaced
> my
> >>>> batteries (died and early death from the ProMariner) and added the
> >>>> starter.
> >>>> Very easy job (Herb's description is very good). The only difference
> >>>> for
> >>>> me
> >>>> is I did not use a bus bar. Instead I peeled off just enough wiring
> to
> >>>> fit
> >>>> the 4awg into the monel fittings (with Mr. Hare's advice)...has
> worked
> >>>> great
> >>>> for 4 seasons...
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jon Vez
> >>>> Solstice #582
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> >>>> McCullough
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:29 AM
> >>>> To: C320-List
> >>>> Subject: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >>>>
> >>>> I know this has been discussed already, but I would like to know what
> >>>> size
> >>>> charger is needed or best suited. I am considering the Xantrex iether
> >>>> 20
> >>>> amp
> >>>> or 40 amp.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any installation tips would also be much appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kirk
> >>>>
> >>>> Boomerang #124
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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Chris Burti
Farmville, NC