[C320-list] Xantrex shore charger

[Chris Burti]

Thanks Jeff!

On Feb 15, 2008 8:19 PM, Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> It comes out.  Try this.  As you face the panel:
>
> 1) unscrew the magazine rack stop block that's on the Left end of that
> teak
> mag-rack bar.
> 2) The Vertical divider has 2 teak blocks, one that screws up into the top
> shelf, and one that screws down where the magazines sit.  They hold that
> vertical divider panel in place.
> 3) unscrew the 4? Screws holding the electrical panel in place.
> 4) Push UP on the shelf and you'll be able to tip the top edge of that
> panel
> out from under the shelf.  (You may want to try to push the bottom of that
> panel in while tilting the top out.)
>
> Note:  It's held pretty firmly by a bunch of 2/0 gauge wires and #4 wires
> to
> the anchor windlass power, so all you're really going to accomplish is to
> tilt it out to gain access to the back of the switch.  Be careful because
> there's a 110v outlet wired back there.
>
> -Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Burti
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:26 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
>
> I'd like to interject a dumb question to owners of later models. How do
> you
> remove the wood panel with the A-B selector switch without removing the
> chainplate rod?
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Kirk,
> >
> > A 50 Amp Combiner costs about 50 bucks and you can install it in about
> 10
> > minutes. You simply connect each lead to the 1 and the 2 setting on the
> > back
> > of your Battery selector. It's about the size of a pack of gum so you
> > simply
> > attach it behind the electrical panel. The advantage is not only being
> > able
> > to charge both batteries, it also will keep the two batteries isolated
> > automatically--
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> > McCullough
> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:41 AM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >
> > thanks Jon
> >
> > Great input I'll check out WM for the preswaged wiring. I'll go with 4
> > AWG.
> >
> > I don't have a combiner so for now I'll need to marshall the charge time
> > between House and Starter as we motor. Oh well, I need to go below for a
> > cold one from time to time anyway. :)
> >
> > Kirk
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> >
> >
> > > Kirk,
> > >
> > > Since the wire runs to the shunt are short in distance, 4 is fine. I
> > > actually bought the pre-swaged 4AWG with the gold coated eyes at WM. I
> > > think
> > > I bought the 12 inch lengths. As far as the monitoring since it is the
> > > single battery monitor and the shunt only *sees* the house bank (mine
> is
> > > set
> > > up like yours--2 4D's wired together for a single house) and that is
> the
> > > only one I care about monitoring since my starter is always full. I
> also
> > > use
> > > a battery combiner so that I can charge both the house and starter
> while
> > > motoring from the single alternator feed while the battery selector is
> > set
> > > to my starting battery...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> > > McCullough
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:32 PM
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> > >
> > > Jon yes this helps. I saw the drawing for your boat that I believe
> Jeff
> > > did
> > > for you.
> > >
> > > I'll get a block and mount it by the batteries as you did, this would
> > > allow
> > > me to connect all the negative loads to that block, then to the shunt,
> > > then
> > > out of the shunt to the negative battery post. What size wire did you
> > use
> > > to
> > >
> > > connect the shunt to the battery and the new terminal block.? The
> > negative
> > > load cables on Boomerang are all #4 wire. Would this be big enough to
> > > connect the shunt?
> > >
> > > I am thinking based on what you said about the L10 not seeing the
> > starting
> > > battery when switched to position #2 must be the fact that the shunt
> > does
> > > not pick up the load from the start battery, I guess because its wired
> > > only
> > > to the house bank.
> > >
> > > Thanks Again
> > >
> > > Kirk
> > >
> > > #124
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> > > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Kirk,
> > >>
> > >> Probably best for the true expert Jeff Hare to weigh in, but my DC
> > ground
> > >> is
> > >> simply through the existing Neg circuit so I did not add an
> additional.
> > >> As
> > >> far as the Link 10--it will only monitor one bank--if I understand
> your
> > >> question correctly, when switch to the starter, the L10 will not then
> > >> monitor that bank. I ended up epoxying a small block next to my
> battery
> > >> bank
> > >> and mounted the shunt there. I simply had my house bank run to the
> > shunt
> > >> along with appropriate L10 wires as indicated in the instructions. So
> > all
> > >> of
> > >> the loads that come through my house bank are monitored via the
> > >> batteries.
> > >> Hope this helps, but if you still have questions don't hesitate to
> > ask...
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Jon Vez
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > >> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> > >> McCullough
> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:01 PM
> > >> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> > >>
>  > >> Again thanks to Herb, Jon, Bill, Karl, Allan, Jeff and all.
> > >>
> > >>    -More Questions
> > >>
> > >> I am starting the installation and have purchased breakers which I
> will
> > >> install
> > >> between the charger and each battery bank to solve that problem. They
> > >> were
> > >> recommended over fuses by the electrical installer at our yard.
> > >>
> > >> The Xantrex also has a chassis ground. How/where did you all connect
> to
> > >> this ground. Is the DC ground going into the Neg connection on the
> > >> charger
> > >> not the same as the chassis ground point. Can I simply jumper over to
> > the
> > >> chassis ground connection from the Neg terminal or do I need to run a
> > >> separate wire back to the ground behind the electrical panel?
> > >>
> > >> I also purchased the Link 10 and want to install it. I saw the
> drawing
> > on
> > >> the website, and see that all loads need to be connected after the
> > shunt.
> > >> These loads inlcude the charger, the windlass, the DC panel etc. Can
> I
> > >> connect those cables
> > >> directly to the shunt terminal or do I need a separate ground
> connector
> > >> installed somewhere near the battery. I intend to use the Link 10 for
> > the
> > >> house bank only (2 X 4D), but if I switch to the starting battery
> will
> > >> the
> > >> Link
> > >> 10 then monitor the starting battery? I have the house on position #1
> > and
> > >> the
> > >> starting Batt on position #2.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> > >> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:37 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Kirk,
> > >>>
> > >>> The fuses are actually a bit hard to find for the size of the
> cabling.
> > I
> > >>> ended up getting them from Crutchfield--they are sold for automotive
> > >>> purposes, but they are gold coated and corrosion is not an issue....
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Jon Vez
> > >>> Solstice #582
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > >>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> > >>> McCullough
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:43 PM
> > >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks Bill I do remember the story of the fire, and yes my hull
> #124
> > >>> does
> > >>> not currently have them, so as part of my new Xantrex installation I
> > >>> will
> > >>> add the fuses. I bought the TC 40+ and the manual asks for a DC cct
> > >>> breaker
> > >>> or DC fuse and disconnect rated at 50 amps at each bank.
> > >>>
> > >>> I now need to look around for this hardware, should be easy to find
> I
> > >>> expect.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks again to all who have given me some great input.
> > >>>
> > >>> Kirk
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > >>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> > >>> Culbertson
> > >>> Sent: 10 February 2008 13:18
> > >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> > >>>
> > >>> Kirk,
> > >>>
>  > >>> re: DC fuse at each battery.  I believe that your older (#124) boat
> > does
> > >>> not
> > >>> have them unless you or someone added them.
> > >>> At some point (I don't know when) Catalina added them to the
> > production
> > >>> model.  My boat #859 has them and
> > >>> they're documented in the electrical drawings for the boat.  The
> fuses
> > >>> are
> > >>> inline in the charger -> battery cable
> > >>> about 4"-6" before the connection to the battery.  Catalina may have
> > >>> started
> > >>> fusing the battery charger lines after the fire on
> > >>> Kit Carson's boat.  Kit contributes to this maillist, is a member of
> > the
> > >>> 320
> > >>> association and has attended most or all of
> > >>> the annual regattas.
> > >>>
> > >>> -bill
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----
> > >>> From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
> > >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 2:59:49 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> > >>>
>  > >>> Thanks to all for the quick responses. I'm off to the boat show
> > >>> (Vancouver)
> > >>> today to make the purchase. Not sure which way I will go,  but now I
> > >>> know
> > >>> that either will do the job, and I just need to analyze my own
> needs.
> > We
> > >>> do
> > >>> stay on the hook for several days at a time, but then we balance
> that
> > >>> out
> > >>> with a a couple of days dockside. For days when Boomerang is at her
> > >>> homeport, I have
> > >>> never run the fridge when not on board because of the Pro-Mariner
> > >>> concerns.
> > >>> So a big improvement will be cold drinks whenever I go to the boat.
> > And
> > >>> the
> > >>> constant humming will be history!
> > >>>
> > >>> The part about existing wiring size working for the 10+ but not 20+
> > may
> > >>> influence me.
> > >>>
> > >>> I found a Xantrex manual on line and for both the 20+ and 40+
> chargers
> > >>> they
> > >>> call for a fuse on the DC side for each battery bank. I don't
> believe
> > I
> > >>> have
> > >>>
> > >>> fuses on each bank with the Pro-Mariner. Has everyone installed
> these
> > as
> > >>> part of the project?
> > >>>
> > >>> I like Herb's idea to mount it on a back panel, this would retain
> the
> > >>> existing 4 mounting holes on the bulkhead.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have the 2 x 4D paralleled for the house bank on position #1 and a
> > >>> group
> > >>> 27 starter on position #2.
> > >>>
> > >>> I am seriously looking at the link 20 also. I understand this is
> much
> > >>> better
> > >>>
> > >>> than the remote monitor they offer. Has anyone added the temperature
> > >>> sensor?
> > >>>
> > >>> Kirk
> > >>> #124
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> > >>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 10:10 AM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Kirk,
> > >>>>
>  > >>>> I used the Xantrex 20 for a 400ah house and a group 27 starter
> (don't
> > >>>> recall
> > >>>> how many amp hours that one is). When I did this project I replaced
> > my
> > >>>> batteries (died and early death from the ProMariner) and added the
> > >>>> starter.
> > >>>> Very easy job (Herb's description is very good). The only
> difference
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> me
> > >>>> is I did not use a bus bar. Instead I peeled off just enough wiring
> > to
> > >>>> fit
> > >>>> the 4awg into the monel fittings (with Mr. Hare's advice)...has
> > worked
> > >>>> great
> > >>>> for 4 seasons...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jon Vez
> > >>>> Solstice #582
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>  > >>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> > >>>> McCullough
> > >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:29 AM
> > >>>> To: C320-List
> > >>>> Subject: [C320-list] Xantrex shore charger
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I know this has been discussed already, but I would like to know
> what
> > >>>> size
> > >>>> charger is needed or best suited. I am considering the Xantrex
> iether
> > >>>> 20
> > >>>> amp
> > >>>> or 40 amp.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any installation tips would also be much appreciated.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Kirk
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Boomerang #124
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> > >
> >
> >
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> Chris Burti
> Farmville, NC
>
>


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