[C320-list] 1995 C320 Buyer Information Requested

[pat reynolds]

Larry,  It is true we are in freshwater only six
months of the year and the water is usually cool most
of the time.  It still seems like you are getting a
lot of blisters even with the salt and warm water. 
There are a lot of boats our age in salt water and I
wonder how many have had recurring problems like
yours.
Hopefully you didn't get one of those Monday made
boats.

Pat
--- Larry Frank <WindSwept at stx.rr.com> wrote:

> Pat,
> 
> Sorry for the delay in answering - just returned
> from an extended business
> trip overseas.
> 
> The blisters have appeared randomly distributed from
> stem to stern and port
> to starboard.  Some are at the waterline and some
> are along the bottom fore
> and aft centerline.  I have tried to look for a
> pattern but have not picked
> one out.
> 
> What makes these blisters somewhat different is that
> they are rather large,
> but few in number.  Think of slicing off 1/4 to 1/3
> of a tennis ball, and
> you will get the approximate picture.
> 
> Every time the bottom is repainted I have to repair
> 10-15 of these.  They
> didn't show up until WindSwept was about 5 years
> old, but are now appear at
> each bottom job.
> 
> A talked to Peter a few years ago about the problem
> and his experience is
> similar, as is his hull number.
> 
> It is probably worth noting that both Peter and I
> sail in very warm salt
> water environments.  He is in south Florida if
> memory serves me correctly
> and I sail around Corpus Christi, TX which is very
> south along the Texas
> Gulf Coast.  In the summer water temperature exceeds
> 85 degrees for 3-4
> months, peaking at about 88 degrees.
> 
> When the problem first arose, Catalina contributed
> some money for the first
> blister fix since it was still covered by warrantee.
> 
> These early Catalinas were not built with the
> blister resistant resins that
> are used now.  Instead they had a barrier coating
> applied at the factory.  I
> am thinking that the barrier coating may have been
> damaged during an early
> bottom painting job, perhaps even the first one
> during commissioning by the
> local dealer.
> 
> At the factory tour during the Catalina rendezvous a
> few years back, Gerry
> Douglas recommended to me that the barrier coating
> should be renewed after
> around 10 years.  WindSwept is now about 13 and I
> may do that this year, but
> when I review the problem with the boatyard that
> does my work, and an
> independent marine surveyor the advice is redoing
> the barrier coating is not
> worth the cost with this type of blister.  The
> advice has always been if the
> blister is repaired correctly with vinyl ester resin
> there is no degradation
> to the structural integrity of the hull.
> 
> My main reason for repairing the blisters is that I
> will sell WindSwept some
> day.  I would expect a prospective buyer will
> discount the price they will
> pay because of the blisters, so why not pay the bill
> myself now and avoid
> the recurring repairs that are inevitable at each
> bottom job.
> 
> Larry
> WindSwept C320 #246
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of pat reynolds
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:14 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 1995 C320 Buyer Information
> Requested
> 
> Larry I have hull 249 and never had a problem.  What
> areas were involved
> 
> Pat R
> --- Larry Frank <WindSwept at stx.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> > Peter,
> > 
> > I have hull number 246 and remember when you
> > repaired your blisters and
> > applied the barrier coat.  I am glad to hear the
> job
> > was a success.  I too
> > have a very similar blistering issue to what you
> > described when you were
> > doing your repairs.
> > 
> > This year I am considering the same repair job as
> > you described in the past.
> > 
> > 
> > After making your repairs and applying the barrier
> > coat, how long did you
> > have the boat?  Have you heard anything from the
> new
> > owner in this regard?
> > If I am not mistaken you have a different boat
> now,
> > correct?
> > 
> > I agree with your assessment of a 1995 320.  Any
> > thirteen year old boat may
> > have issues and a good surveyor and survey should
> > bring them to light.
> > 
> > Larry
> > WindSwept C320 #246
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Peter Clancy
> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:02 PM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] 1995 C320 Buyer
> Information
> > Requested
> > 
> > Joe ...... I owned 'AROBAN' for 8 years, a 1995
> C320
> > hull #222. First, I
> > believe it's essential to have a thorough survey
> > done on the boat. The
> > shallow bilge was never an issue with me as I
> > switched to GFO packing which
> > seldom dripped. Others have gone to the dripless
> > shaft seals with good
> > results. The key is to keep water from
> accumulating
> > in the bilge and under
> > the bilge tray. The boat probably has the Perkins
> > diesel and was presumably
> > used in salt water. I'd ask if the exhaust elbow
> had
> > ever been replaced. I
> > had to replace mine at 400 hours. Take a look at
> the
> > refrigeration
> > compressor unit in the port aft lazarette. Mine
> had
> > rusted quite a bit but
> > still worked fine.  I also had a blistering
> problem
> > as Catalina had not yet
> > started using vinylester resins in 1995. I
> repaired
> > the blisters myself and
> > applied an epoxy barrier coat which eliminated any
> > recurrence. I never had a
> > problem with the aqua lift muffler. Check for
> leaks
> > around the chain plates
> > which may need to be re-bedded. I don't think
> > there's any issue especially
> > unique to the C320 that a good surveyor wouldn't
> > identify. Good luck. Your
> > friend is getting a well-made, solid sailboat with
> > pleasing performance.
> > 
> > Peter Clancy
> > 'AROBAN' Hull #222 (former owner)
> > Miami, FL
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>  
>
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> ________
> Be a better friend, newshound, and 
> 
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