[C320-list] Portable Generators

Suz & Sam ssweston at cox.net
Sun Jul 20 15:21:31 PDT 2008


If it helps anyone, I found the problem with the heating problem with my 
12,000 BTU Marine Air. The water pump was not cooling properly because of a 
plugged line which cooled the pump itself.  Blew this line out and that 
solved the problem. I'm still trying to solve the EU2000i  problem of 
running the air-conditioner. Your comments have been appreciated.
Sam #585.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Campbell" <bcampbell at valp.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Portable Generators


> The Honda EU2000i handles the start up and run of my Mermaid 16,000 BTU 
> A/C.
> What I did to minimize a loss of required start up amps (13) is to use a
> short 30 amp pigtail plugged into the boat and attach that to a small
> extension cord (20 amp capable) attached to the generator. Longer cables 
> may
> reduce the amps delivered to the A/C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of
> Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 2:40 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Portable Generators
>
>
> It seems like folks never read previous messages:
> ----------------------------
>
> Just got in from the grandkid's baseball practice and spotted your email.
> On my present boat, I have the Mermaid 12,000 btu A/C, not the 16,000 btu
> model. I'm not sure which make A/C Brian has  so my personal observations
> may not apply.  I can easily start and run the 12k with  the Honda EU2000.
> There are owners with my same boat (Gemini 105MC), who run their Mermaid 
> 16k
> A/C's with the Honda EU2000. However, to handle the start-up load, they 
> use
> a delay to start the cooling water pump. The Honda generator will run the
> longest in 'eco-mode' but I believe the running amperage for the 16k is 
> too
> high for 'eco-mode' to function. In normal mode, the Honda burns more fuel
> but there are aftermarket devices that allow you to connect a second fuel
> tank. If Brian has a different make, he could compare the starting and
> running amperages to the Mermaid A/C to see if my observations apply. In
> hot, humid climates, having an A/C will encourage more use of the boat!
>
> Peter Clancy
> 'AROBAN' #222 (former owner)
> Miami, FL
>
> ----------------------------------
> Regards,
> OD
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suz & Sam" [ssweston at cox.net]
> Sent: 07/18/2008 12:21 PM
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Portable Generators
>
> I have a 12,000 Marine-Air AC and my Honda 2000 won't start the unit. 
> Maybe
> the smaller extension cord (less than 30 amps) is the problem. Does anyone
> know??.  Thanks, Sam #585
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bryan Campbell" <bcampbell at valp.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Portable Generators
>
>
>>I have the Honda 2000 and it will operate my 16,000 Mermaid AC. It is a
>> little noisy, but I have found that a piece of rubber mat  cushions the
>> vibration and lessens the noise. I preferred the Honda cost to the
>> thousands
>> to install a small diesel genny.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Scott
>> Thompson
>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:09 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Portable Generators
>>
>>
>> Orlando, the key thing is your last sentence -- "to each his own."
>> There are apparently a lot of satisfied customers and the unit is a
>> quality piece of equipment.  I do not mean to disparage Honda.  But I
>> guess I have low tolerance for running engines while on the hook.  I
>> would encourage anyone thinking about buying any generator to listen to
>> it working, under load, in an otherwise quiet environment.  If I were to
>> buy one again I'd probably buy the Honda 2000 again.  But based on my
>> limited trials I think I prefer no generator at all.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com wrote:
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> Wow, I had just the opposite, I thought it was very quiet, not too
>>> heavy, although not sure what heavy cable you mean unless it's the shore
>>> power cable but I bought the 12' one and it was no big deal.
>>>
>>> As for gasoline, if you have an outboard, I guess you would have some
>>> handy anyway....
>>>
>>> Oh well, to each his own
>>> ----------------------------------
>>> Regards,
>>> OD
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Scott Thompson [sthompson at toad.net]
>>> Sent: 07/18/2008 07:38 AM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Portable Generators
>>>
>>> I bought the Honda 2000e two years ago based partly on recommendations
>>> on this list and have not been very happy with it.  I used it on one
>>> week-long cruise and not again since.  It's heavy, noisy and bulky and
>>> is the only thing on board that needs gasoline.  I wish I had gone with
>>> something lighter and quieter, even if it doesn't have quite the same
>>> output.  It seemed like it was always in the way.  You have to mess with
>>> the heavy cable.  I just found it to be a hassle.  So now I just leave
>>> it at home and rely on the engine.
>>>
>>> Better still would be a more efficient electrical system (i.e. more LED
>>> bulbs, better alternator and regulator on the engine, better house bank,
>>> etc.) so that I could get by without a portable generator at all and
>>> with less running of the engine.
>>>
>>> And what I'd really like is a decent solar panel option, not necessarily
>>> to power the whole boat, but to give me a margin when I'm on the hook
>>> and continuous trickle charging when the boat is on her mooring.
>>>
>>> For now I try to plan our day to always include at least some motoring
>>> under way.  There are lots of interesting creeks to explore on the
>>> Chesapeake so when we need to top off the batteries we pull the hook and
>>> go sight-seeing.  Sometimes we end up dropping the hook again back where
>>> we started.
>>>
>>> Scott Thompson
>>>
>>>
>>> Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com wrote:
>>>> Apparently, you didn't see my earlier post on the 2000e
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>> Regards,
>>>> OD
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Amirault Family - S&B" [amiraults at sympatico.ca]
>>>> Sent: 07/17/2008 07:14 PM
>>>> To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Portable Generators
>>>>
>>>> I wish to both charge batteries and use AC power to heat water on my 
>>>> 320
>>>> while on the hook through the use of a portable gas-powered generator.
>>>> I am
>>>> looking at three models; a Yamaha 1000, and Honda 1000 and 2000. The
>>>> Yamaha
>>>> beats the Honda 1000 on specification and is a tad less expensive.
>>>> This is
>>>> not the point if it fails to do the job. The Honda 2000 is more
>>>> capable, but
>>>> also shows a noisier spec and is heavier. Are any of these three
>>>> models able
>>>> to accomplish my ends, or should I rely on periodically running the
>>>> diesel
>>>> to do this task?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At my club there is no power at the docks, and all charging is done
>>>> through
>>>> the diesel at this time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brian Amirault
>>>> 797 Waltzing Bear, too
>>>>
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