[C320-list] Dead down wind sailing?

Joe Barrett joe at dolphinmortgage.com
Tue Jun 24 09:14:39 PDT 2008


There are plenty of racers on this list that would also have opinions on
what makes their boat go fast. It took me two years to figure out my new
boat and going from a Tiller to a Wheel was a big adjustment. I was looking
at recent Photo's of Rambler the 90' Machine that just won the Newport to
Bermuda race and noticed them close hauled with all the crew on the Windward
side but Aft near the Cockpit. I also noticed that their stern transom still
was out of the water. I don't think that is true with our C320's. We have
the crew forward, one in front of the Shrouds and the others just aft of the
Shrouds to get our fat ass out of the water. Seems to work on our boat as we
do pretty well upwind but I'd love to hear comments from the other Racers as
well. Our West Florida PHRF Boat of the Year Season starts at Labor Day and
runs thru Mid May. We won the Cruising Class Boat of the Year twice and came
in 2nd twice in the last 4 years and there are usually 12-14 boats in Class
in any given Regatta. I sail with a Doyle 155% Dacron Quicksilver Genoa and
the stock Catalina main which really needs replacing.
Joe Barrett
Island Time #689
Naples, Florida


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Rick Evans
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dead down wind sailing?

Hey Joe

I phrf race my 320 as well iyou sound like a pro on wieght distribution for
the 320. 

Have any other pointers?

Rick
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Joe Barrett" <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:19:19
To:<C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dead down wind sailing?


We go  DDW a lot on short Olympic Triangle courses. Prior to arriving at the
Weather Mark the pole is already attached to the Genoa sheets. As soon as we
round the Genoa is eased the pole extended and we are off flying downwind.
Well before other boats are even on the foredeck trying to set a pole. Easy
way to pick up 4 boat lengths and cleaner Air.
We have found it is much faster to have crew weight forward of the mast DDW
and have passed boats that owe us a bunch of time doing so. I would prefer
that the wind allow for a Broad Reach as it is a faster point of sail, on
that run we put crew weight Leeward by the Shrouds unless it is really
windy. Even in a breeze the extra lift from the Leeward crew weight seems to
help. DDW we ease the Halyards, take tension off the Backstay adjuster,
loosen the Outhaul and move crew weight forward to get the fat stern out of
the water.
Joe Barrett


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Rod Boer
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 5:20 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: [C320-list] Dead down wind sailing?

The finish leg of last Friday night's race was dead down wind and that's the
way we sailed it with a whisker pole.  Some folks on this list had
previously recommended that even with a whisker pole the fastest way to get
to a point dead downwind was to sail off at 120.  Maybe I misunderstood what
they said but I was trying to build an argument to my mates regarding the
120 course using the C320 polar diagram and I couldn't really make a good
case.  Sailing 120 doubles the distance and according to the polar diagram I
will not be going anywhere near twice as fast.  There is a weak case for a
150 course in that we would have saved 45 sec on a 1.7 mile finish leg.

 

I must be missing something.  Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.


 

Rod Boer

Odyssey, #688






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