[C320-list] Dutchman system

crashley at gte.net crashley at gte.net
Wed Mar 12 22:27:20 PDT 2008


OD,

I hear you. I did put an Autostream feathering prop on Rosebud 2 years ago. 
That made a noticeable difference in lighter air, but I think my bimini 
slows me down a bit.

CRA
Rosebud #882

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From: <Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system


>I was not commenting on the relative performance merits of the lazy jack
> system, my comment was that one should never say "I'm a cruiser and not a
> racer so  therefore I don't worry too much about performance"....my
> feeling is if you sail, you should want to make your boat perform
> optimally at all times and never give in to a "cruiser mentality" where
> slower is ok...Even if I go out for a daysail, and I see Bellezza, Spring
> Fever, Sueleen Too or any other sailing buddy, as far as I'm concerned,
> the race is on!! :) That mentality is really what has kept all of us
> competitive in races and also given us the ability to know what makes our
> respective boats go fast...or not! :)
>
> cuba libre 3 is essentially a cruising boat but my co-skipper and I have
> spent the last couple of evening discussing the merits of purchasing
> either a Spectra w/ Kevlar tape UK sail or a Quantum Fusion-M 135%
> genoa...why, because when we leave for our 10-year cruise, we want to go
> as fast as possible from port-to-port...so the question we ask is this, is
> $6,500 for either of these two sails worth it? Answer, hell yes!! and so
> it goes...
>
> Now, I started looking at asym spin furlers + a UK Flasher to go on it =
> $2,000 for the furler + $3,400 for a UK Matrix Asym Flasher---the madness
> never ends does it? :)
>
> cuba libre 3
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> OD,
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> So does a lazy jack impact performance? It's still a fully battened sail
> but
> I though the permanent sail cover might be an issue.
>
> CRA
> Rosebud #882
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com>
> To: "C320-List" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
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>
> 2 things:
>
> Just because you don't race you should never compromise on performance
>
> Once you get a boom furler, cost will be the last thing on your mind, it's
>
> wonderful
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> OD
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From:  [crashley at gte.net]
> Sent: 03/11/2008 10:25 PM
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
>
> I would consider a lazy jack set up. I would prefer it over my Dutchman,
> actually. Less work uncovering and covering. Not sure about the
> performance
> hit but then I don't race.
>
> Of course you could go for a boom-furler... that wouldn't suck, except for
> the cost.
>
> CRA
> Rosebud #882
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Culbertson" <billculb_a2 at yahoo.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>; <c320-list at catalina320.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
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>>
>> http://www.mvbinfo.com/images/sf_om_b-c.pdf
>>
>> There is a table on page 2 of this document from the Dutchman website
>> which
>> could be helpful.
>>
>> -bill
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Scott Thompson <sthompson at toad.net>
>> To: c320-list at catalina320.org
>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:57:32 PM
>> Subject: [C320-list] Dutchman system
>>
>> Replacing my main this year and the sailmaker is suggesting that I
>> switch from the two nylon line system with adjustable "continuous loop"
>> topping lift to a single line topping lift with three nylon lines.  Is
>> anyone out there using a 3 nylon line system?  Sailmaker says the 3 line
>> system is per specs from Dutchman.  This will be a full batten main.
>>
>> Scott Thompson
>> Surprise, 653
>>
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