[C320-list] FW: Re: Re: a/c winterizing

[Bruce Stumpp]

Hey, I tried it "on the rocks" with a twist. Mmmmmmm, not bad. 

Bruce


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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:45:05 -0500
From: "warren updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Re: Re:  a/c winterizing
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
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It was bought on-sale at an ACE Hardware Store. I had the bottle in front of
me when I wrote that message so I'm quite sure that's what the label said. I
didn't see anything about proof, though I'm sure it was probably not more
than 12% by volume. (:>)  It surely didn't smell like my favorite scotch or
vodka or I would have bottled it.  In any event, it's all in the boat now -
Kay sarah, sarah.  (That's my French for shit happens. Like "silver plates"
is French for "thank you.")

Warren & Pattie Updike
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay


-----Original Message-----
From: Allan S. Field [mailto:allan.field at verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:48 PM
To: Catalina Association List
Subject: [C320-list] FW: Re: Re: a/c winterizing

Warren - Ethanol, also called ethyl alcohol, pure alcohol, grain alcohol, or
drinking alcohol, is a volatile, flammable, colorless liquid. It is a
psychoactive drug, best known as the type of alcohol found in alcoholic
beverages and in thermometers. In common usage, it is often referred to
simply as alcohol.  I am not going to begin to guess how you got yours to be
pink but know only that I am very glad Warr De Mar is not in my marina over
the winter.  One spark and maybe no more boats? 

Seriously however, are you sure the brand you purchased that is pink is
ethyl alcohol?  I have heard of folks winterizing with Vodka but always
thought that was urban legend.  Regardless, even vodka is colorless. - Allan

Nov 5, 2008 04:07:04 PM, C320-List at Catalina320.com wrote:

Ok, dots connected, I stick by my second message. Please read:

I have two types of "pink stuff." One is propylene glycol, the other is
ethyl alcohol, both pink, both labeled as suitable for marine and RV potable
water systems. Some pink propylene glycol products are usable in the engine
if they have corrosion and scale inhibitors. Apparently, Allan, the brand
you use is one such product. The ethyl alcohol product I have boasts no
additives on the label and so I would not use it in the engine, yet it is
"pink."

I would hope others relying on my message below would read it fully, do
their own research, and act accordingly. I don't profess to be an expert on
boats and offer my comments, such as they are, based on my own limited
experience.

Warren & Pattie Updike
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay


-----Original Message-----
From: Allan S. Field [mailto:allan.field at verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:58 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] a/c winterizing

Warren - "Pink Stuff" is propylene glycol. Your original statement was that
pink stuff is not suitable for winterizing the engine. Again, why did you
say that? I think it is time for you to connect the dots between "pink
stuff" and "propylene glycol" and admit your mistake. Others may be acting
on your misinformation. - Allan

-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of warren updike
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:38 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] a/c winterizing

Allan, what brand do you use?

Here is what I can tell from limited research. Antifreeze for RV/Marine use
is of three types:

Ethylene Glycol

Propylene Glycol

Ethyl Alcohol

Ethylene glycol is only for use in the closed-loop cooling side of an engine
as it is toxic and should not be released into the environment. These will
have corrosion inhibitors to protect the cast iron or aluminum block and
other parts.

Propylene glycol is suitable for winterizing the raw water side of engines
if appropriate corrosion inhibitors are included; and, for potable water
systems.

Ethyl alcohol is suitable only for winterizing potable water systems.

If anyone can correct or improve on the above description please do so.
You'll be doing most of us a service.

Warren & Pattie Updike
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay