[C320-list] FW: Re: Re: a/c winterizing

Fri Nov 14 17:13:17 PST 2008

I think he knew that... :)
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OD

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----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Seastream [robert.seastream at comcast.net]
Sent: 11/14/2008 07:49 PM EST
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Cc: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Re: Re:  a/c winterizing

Um...I think the sayings are actually 'Que Sera, Sera' (Whatever will  
be, will be), and S'il vous plait ('If you please').
Nevertheless, Warren, you did get your point across.

Bob

On Nov 14, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Bruce Stumpp wrote:

> Hey, I tried it "on the rocks" with a twist. Mmmmmmm, not bad.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:45:05 -0500
> From: "warren updike" <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Re: Re:  a/c winterizing
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY114-DAV121086A75FB42AD1547CA3BE170 at phx.gbl>
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>
> It was bought on-sale at an ACE Hardware Store. I had the bottle in  
> front of
> me when I wrote that message so I'm quite sure that's what the label  
> said. I
> didn't see anything about proof, though I'm sure it was probably not  
> more
> than 12% by volume. (:>)  It surely didn't smell like my favorite  
> scotch or
> vodka or I would have bottled it.  In any event, it's all in the  
> boat now -
> Kay sarah, sarah.  (That's my French for shit happens. Like "silver  
> plates"
> is French for "thank you.")
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allan S. Field [mailto:allan.field at verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:48 PM
> To: Catalina Association List
> Subject: [C320-list] FW: Re: Re: a/c winterizing
>
> Warren - Ethanol, also called ethyl alcohol, pure alcohol, grain  
> alcohol, or
> drinking alcohol, is a volatile, flammable, colorless liquid. It is a
> psychoactive drug, best known as the type of alcohol found in  
> alcoholic
> beverages and in thermometers. In common usage, it is often referred  
> to
> simply as alcohol.  I am not going to begin to guess how you got  
> yours to be
> pink but know only that I am very glad Warr De Mar is not in my  
> marina over
> the winter.  One spark and maybe no more boats?
>
> Seriously however, are you sure the brand you purchased that is pink  
> is
> ethyl alcohol?  I have heard of folks winterizing with Vodka but  
> always
> thought that was urban legend.  Regardless, even vodka is colorless.  
> - Allan
>
> Nov 5, 2008 04:07:04 PM, C320-List at Catalina320.com wrote:
>
> Ok, dots connected, I stick by my second message. Please read:
>
> I have two types of "pink stuff." One is propylene glycol, the other  
> is
> ethyl alcohol, both pink, both labeled as suitable for marine and RV  
> potable
> water systems. Some pink propylene glycol products are usable in the  
> engine
> if they have corrosion and scale inhibitors. Apparently, Allan, the  
> brand
> you use is one such product. The ethyl alcohol product I have boasts  
> no
> additives on the label and so I would not use it in the engine, yet  
> it is
> "pink."
>
> I would hope others relying on my message below would read it fully,  
> do
> their own research, and act accordingly. I don't profess to be an  
> expert on
> boats and offer my comments, such as they are, based on my own limited
> experience.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allan S. Field [mailto:allan.field at verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:58 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] a/c winterizing
>
> Warren - "Pink Stuff" is propylene glycol. Your original statement  
> was that
> pink stuff is not suitable for winterizing the engine. Again, why  
> did you
> say that? I think it is time for you to connect the dots between "pink
> stuff" and "propylene glycol" and admit your mistake. Others may be  
> acting
> on your misinformation. - Allan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of warren  
> updike
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:38 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] a/c winterizing
>
> Allan, what brand do you use?
>
> Here is what I can tell from limited research. Antifreeze for RV/ 
> Marine use
> is of three types:
>
> Ethylene Glycol
>
> Propylene Glycol
>
> Ethyl Alcohol
>
> Ethylene glycol is only for use in the closed-loop cooling side of  
> an engine
> as it is toxic and should not be released into the environment.  
> These will
> have corrosion inhibitors to protect the cast iron or aluminum block  
> and
> other parts.
>
> Propylene glycol is suitable for winterizing the raw water side of  
> engines
> if appropriate corrosion inhibitors are included; and, for potable  
> water
> systems.
>
> Ethyl alcohol is suitable only for winterizing potable water systems.
>
> If anyone can correct or improve on the above description please do  
> so.
> You'll be doing most of us a service.
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>

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