[C320-list] water heater by-pass
Sail0983 at aol.com
Sail0983 at aol.com
Wed Oct 29 16:01:55 PDT 2008
Don't know how much earlier Catalina made the change but my 2004 320 #983 is
plumbed with a "Whale" system. This consist of 15mm Blue (cold) and Red
(Hot) Semi-flexible hoses. When I winterize my water system at the end of the
season to remove the Hot Water Heater I remove the wooden facing and draw system
under the sink. Then I disconnect the cold water supple to the Hot Water
Heater at the T-Fitting where the supply branches to feed the Hot Water Heater.
Next I disconnect the Output side of the Hot Water Heater and using Whale
Fittings connect a 15mm Jumper hose between the T-fitting where I disconnected
the supply and the Hot Water Output hose. With this done I can not pump the
"pink" stuff through the water system without affecting the Hot Water Heater.
To empty the Hot Water Heater, as much as possible, I connect an Air Pump to
the Cold Water Supply input to the Hot Water Heater and open the drain (looks
like a normal hose bib) and pump air through the Hot Water Heater until no
more water drains out.
In the spring remember to flush the Water System with fresh water to purge
the "pink" stuff before reconnecting the Hot Water Heater to the system.
Dave Marchant
Illumination #983
Solomons, MD
In a message dated 10/29/2008 5:28:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wupdike at hotmail.com writes:
I don't know where Catalina switched from clear plastic hose to the PVC;
but, perhaps it makes a difference when installing a bypass. On Warr De Mar,
#62, I think I counted 17 hose clamps in the hoses under the galley sink. My
original intention was to install two manifolds in an effort to organize
this mess and minimize the number of connections. That's how I got an
education on PVC pipe and connectors. The manifold was expensive not even
considering the cost of the various connectors, there was no viable retail
outlet, and the mfgr. wouldn't sell directly to me. I ended up just
installing a by-pass on the water heater.
The by-pass is a $24 kit containing two valves and a bypass hose. The valves
are well made of bronze (I think.) Space is so cramped under the galley, if
I had to do it over again, I would consider pulling the heater first. The
valves replaced two plastic elbows that screw into the heater. The hose that
needed to be run over the top of the heater from one valve to the other was
not long enough. The threads on the plastic elbows were worn and probably
leaked. Plastic hose barbs screwed into the valves provided for hose
connection. There was not 1/8" to spare. Much attention was given to not
encroaching on the space for the drawer cabinet.
The bypass, some new hose, and new clamps were enough to eliminate the
leaks, and make winterizing the heater much easier. I do have to pull the
cabinet to get at the valves. Small price for easing the job.
Warren & Pattie Updike
Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Rickman [mailto:ilove2sail at verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:13 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] water heater by-pass
Mine has four screws. Remove the drawers, remove the screws, lift the unit
out and you have access to
everything under the sink, takes maybe three minutes.
I made my own bypass with hose and connectors. I don't know what size. But
it was easy and may have
cost me three dollars. But I have to remove it when I have finished, then
put it back the way it was.
Paul
Affinity, 657
----- Original Message ----
From: "BAdams3491 at aol.com" <BAdams3491 at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:00:20 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] water heater by-pass
I am in the process of making a hot water bypass. I don't think the WM
version will work because our boats have 15mm lines and fittings on most
commercial bypasses have female type ends, which will not mate to the 15mm
fittings.
My plan is to make my own bypass using 1/2" pvc and fittings (T fittings
and
shut offs), sealing the bond between the 1/2" pvc and the 15mm lines with
3M
4200. You can get 15mm fittings from WM, page 523, but they are
ridiculously expensive.
Yes the drawer unit must be removed...it's easy only six or eight screws.
Bert
At Ease
#442
In a message dated 10/29/2008 11:15:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
uhlman at sbcglobal.net writes:
We are at that point and wondering what to do next.
I see that West Marine has a by-pass kit for $30. The limited description
says that once you install it, you can simply turn it on and off in future
years - no need to remove.
I've heard a number of people say they bought the kit and did not know what
to do with it.
Questions
Have you installed the kit successfully?
If so, did you have to take the drawer frame out to install it? (seems
like
the only way)
Has it worked well for you?
If not, other solutions?
We were standing on our heads last Sunday trying to see the outlets of the
water heater and the lines running from them - Bob looking through from the
galley side and me from the seacock door. We had removed the drawers and
passed the digital camera back and forth to get better angles to see what
was
there.
Also, has anyone seen the movie Morning Light? If so, what did you think
of
it? We are not a coastal city so may not get it. Bob is in LA this week
and might get the chance to see it there.
Thanks again for your help.
Barb & Bob Uhlman
"Whisper"
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