[C320-list] Anchoring

[james_delong]

Another easy way to use the kettle approach is simply buy a 20 or so pound 
mushroom anchor and tie it, from an 8 ft. line, to the anchor line about 10 
feet in front of the bow. (Tie it at the bow and let another 10 ft. of rode 
out is easier than reaching out 10 feet!) Will draw your anchor line down 
enough so your rode swings under the wing keel.

Jim #453


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>   1. Re: anchoring (Chef Adam Weiner)
>   2. Re: anchoring (Bruce Stanley)
>   3. Main Hatch Handle Leaking (Joe Abbagnaro)
>   4. Re: anchoring (Joe Abbagnaro)
>   5. Re: anchoring (sholdr at aol.com)
>   6. Re: anchoring (Jon Vez)
>   7. Hooray for Catalina (sailorlew at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:14:42 -0700
> From: "Chef Adam Weiner" <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] anchoring
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <200809150414.PAW76006 at rcn.com>
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>
>
> I normally don't anchor out, I usually just return home, go to another 
> yacht
> club, pick up a buoy, etc.
>
> The last time (before yesterday) that I anchored out was several years 
> ago.
> At that time the anchor rode (which is a non-floating line) wrapped around
> the keel.  We went to leave at slack water so we just let out a bunch more
> rode and the line dropped off the keel.
>
> Yesterday we anchored in 6 feet of water at low tide over mud.  Claw style
> anchor.  At high tide water would be 10 feet deep and with the distance 
> from
> bow to water of about 3 feet I let out 30 feet of chain and about 70 feet 
> of
> rode.  There are strong currents in this anchorage.  You guessed it.  This
> morning the rode was wrapped around the keel I knew this was the case when 
> I
> stuck my nose of deck since we were facing a different direction then 
> every
> other boat in the anchorage.
>
> I have never heard of this before, and have only met only one other person
> who said that one time in a group trip one boat had the same problem,
> ironically (and he didn't think there was any connection) it was a 
> Catalina.
>
> Any thoughts?  I would anchor out more if this wasn't such a potential
> problem.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:32:07 +1000
> From: "Bruce Stanley" <brucestanley36 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] anchoring
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Message-ID:
> <9d5459ff0809142232k1b180a53kb18274aa214931c5 at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Hi Adam
> I use only chain. No wrapping.
> But then again, I admit to using the iron spinnaker more than you!
>
> Bruce Stanley
> Sydney
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Chef Adam Weiner
> <esquirecatering at rcn.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I normally don't anchor out, I usually just return home, go to another
>> yacht
>> club, pick up a buoy, etc.
>>
>> The last time (before yesterday) that I anchored out was several years 
>> ago.
>> At that time the anchor rode (which is a non-floating line) wrapped 
>> around
>> the keel.  We went to leave at slack water so we just let out a bunch 
>> more
>> rode and the line dropped off the keel.
>>
>> Yesterday we anchored in 6 feet of water at low tide over mud.  Claw 
>> style
>> anchor.  At high tide water would be 10 feet deep and with the distance
>> from
>> bow to water of about 3 feet I let out 30 feet of chain and about 70 feet
>> of
>> rode.  There are strong currents in this anchorage.  You guessed it. 
>> This
>> morning the rode was wrapped around the keel I knew this was the case 
>> when
>> I
>> stuck my nose of deck since we were facing a different direction then 
>> every
>> other boat in the anchorage.
>>
>> I have never heard of this before, and have only met only one other 
>> person
>> who said that one time in a group trip one boat had the same problem,
>> ironically (and he didn't think there was any connection) it was a
>> Catalina.
>>
>> Any thoughts?  I would anchor out more if this wasn't such a potential
>> problem.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:17:14 -0400
> From: "Joe Abbagnaro" <jabbagna at gmail.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Main Hatch Handle Leaking
> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.org>
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> Hi
>
> My Main hatch the handle is leaking. I tried to tighten the handle but
> is still leaks.
> I assume there is an O ring in the handle like the side hatches, I
> have left over O rings form
> the side hatches anyone know if they are the same size, or what size O
> rings the main hatch will need.
>
> Joe
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:24:26 -0400
> From: "Joe Abbagnaro" <jabbagna at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] anchoring
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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>
> Hi
>
> The first time we anchored this happened to us
> I let out 15 feet of chanin and 60 feet of rode and we got wrapped up.
> If you have opposing wind and currents I am told this is easy to do.
>
> I recently picked up 80 feet of 1/4 inch chain at WM they had it on
> sale for 30% off.
> I have been told this should solve he problem of keel wrap.
>
> Joe
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Bruce Stanley <brucestanley36 at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Hi Adam
>> I use only chain. No wrapping.
>> But then again, I admit to using the iron spinnaker more than you!
>>
>> Bruce Stanley
>> Sydney
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Chef Adam Weiner
>> <esquirecatering at rcn.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I normally don't anchor out, I usually just return home, go to another
>>> yacht
>>> club, pick up a buoy, etc.
>>>
>>> The last time (before yesterday) that I anchored out was several years 
>>> ago.
>>> At that time the anchor rode (which is a non-floating line) wrapped 
>>> around
>>> the keel.  We went to leave at slack water so we just let out a bunch 
>>> more
>>> rode and the line dropped off the keel.
>>>
>>> Yesterday we anchored in 6 feet of water at low tide over mud.  Claw 
>>> style
>>> anchor.  At high tide water would be 10 feet deep and with the distance
>>> from
>>> bow to water of about 3 feet I let out 30 feet of chain and about 70 
>>> feet
>>> of
>>> rode.  There are strong currents in this anchorage.  You guessed it. 
>>> This
>>> morning the rode was wrapped around the keel I knew this was the case 
>>> when
>>> I
>>> stuck my nose of deck since we were facing a different direction then 
>>> every
>>> other boat in the anchorage.
>>>
>>> I have never heard of this before, and have only met only one other 
>>> person
>>> who said that one time in a group trip one boat had the same problem,
>>> ironically (and he didn't think there was any connection) it was a
>>> Catalina.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?  I would anchor out more if this wasn't such a potential
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:54:57 -0400
> From: sholdr at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] anchoring
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Message-ID: <8CAE54963DC7A55-964-6707 at webmail-md05.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Anchor all the time (day, overnight, backwinded bays, etc) and (so far) 
> hasn't happened once -- we have 15 ft of chain, rest nylon --?? I suspect 
> just unlucky -- 
>
> PEH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Abbagnaro <jabbagna at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 7:24 am
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] anchoring
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> The first time we anchored this happened to us
> I let out 15 feet of chanin and 60 feet of rode and we got wrapped up.
> If you have opposing wind and currents I am told this is easy to do.
>
> I recently picked up 80 feet of 1/4 inch chain at WM they had it on
> sale for 30% off.
> I have been told this should solve he problem of keel wrap.
>
> Joe
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Bruce Stanley <brucestanley36 at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Hi Adam
>> I use only chain. No wrapping.
>> But then again, I admit to using the iron spinnaker more than you!
>>
>> Bruce Stanley
>> Sydney
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Chef Adam Weiner
>> <esquirecatering at rcn.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I normally don't anchor out, I usually just return home, go to another
>>> yacht
>>> club, pick up a buoy, etc.
>>>
>>> The last time (before yesterday) that I anchored out was several years 
>>> ago.
>>> At that time the anchor rode (which is a non-floating line) wrapped 
>>> around
>>> the keel.  We went to leave at slack water so we just let out a bunch 
>>> more
>>> rode and the line dropped off the keel.
>>>
>>> Yesterday we anchored in 6 feet of water at low tide over mud.  Claw 
>>> style
>>> anchor.  At high tide water would be 10 feet deep and with the distance
>>> from
>>> bow to water of about 3 feet I let out 30 feet of chain and about 70 
>>> feet
>>> of
>>> rode.  There are strong currents in this anchorage.  You guessed it. 
>>> This
>>> morning the rode was wrapped around the keel I knew this was the case 
>>> when
>>> I
>>> stuck my nose of deck since we were facing a different direction then 
>>> every
>>> other boat in the anchorage.
>>>
>>> I have never heard of this before, and have only met only one other 
>>> person
>>> who said that one time in a group trip one boat had the same problem,
>>> ironically (and he didn't think there was any connection) it was a
>>> Catalina.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?  I would anchor out more if this wasn't such a potential
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:34:33 -0400
> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] anchoring
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <000d01c91737$cafa2100$60ee6300$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Adam,
>
> Although this has never happened to me, I've seen a few posts here in the
> past on this happening...particularly with wing keels. More chain will
> certainly help, but another solution is to use a 'Kettle' on your road.
> Essentially a weight that you slide down the rode to keep it parallel to 
> the
> sea floor. This increases holding power, and keeps the length of rode from
> your bow to the bottom more perpendicular to your keel. You can look at a
> product from NZ called the 'Kiwi Anchor Rider' or make one yourself by
> filling a coffee can with cement and imbedding an eye at the top....
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Vez
> Solstice #582
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chef Adam
> Weiner
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:15 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] anchoring
>
>
>
> I normally don't anchor out, I usually just return home, go to another 
> yacht
> club, pick up a buoy, etc.
>
> The last time (before yesterday) that I anchored out was several years 
> ago.
> At that time the anchor rode (which is a non-floating line) wrapped around
> the keel.  We went to leave at slack water so we just let out a bunch more
> rode and the line dropped off the keel.
>
> Yesterday we anchored in 6 feet of water at low tide over mud.  Claw style
> anchor.  At high tide water would be 10 feet deep and with the distance 
> from
> bow to water of about 3 feet I let out 30 feet of chain and about 70 feet 
> of
> rode.  There are strong currents in this anchorage.  You guessed it.  This
> morning the rode was wrapped around the keel I knew this was the case when 
> I
> stuck my nose of deck since we were facing a different direction then 
> every
> other boat in the anchorage.
>
> I have never heard of this before, and have only met only one other person
> who said that one time in a group trip one boat had the same problem,
> ironically (and he didn't think there was any connection) it was a 
> Catalina.
>
> Any thoughts?  I would anchor out more if this wasn't such a potential
> problem.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:50:12 -0400
> From: sailorlew at aol.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Hooray for Catalina
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Message-ID: <8CAE572A31F01D6-1658-194E at WEBMAIL-MA12.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> In the past I have complained about Catalina's marketing strategy at boat 
> shows. Last year they had literature which showed a boat show special 
> price for the C320 of $110,000.00. However this price did not include 
> freight, commisssioning, & bottom painting, as did Hunter & Beneteau. I 
> felt that this was very misleading, & left you at the mercy of the dealer 
> for these charges. This year at the Newport the boat show the price was 
> $141,841.00 with these items included. Even though the prices may work out 
> to the same, I feel that this is a much more honest approach to take.
> Lew
>
>
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