[C320-list] Gate Plate

Tue Sep 23 11:32:40 PDT 2008

More good ideas. Thank you.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Burti" <clburti at gmail.com>
To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Gate Plate

> My experience matches Bob's except when we bought # 867, we haad problems
> initially because the dealer had lost the gate and replaced it with a door
> strike plate. After getting the proper gate and taking a little time
> installing it, we have had no problem raising the main from the cockpit. I
> set the top of the gate at the edge of the slot but not in it and the 
> bottom
> about 1.5 mm to starboard. A little sailkote on the slugs and first few 
> feet
> of slot a couple times a year helps a bunch. Freeing up the reef lines by
> installing blocks at the cringles really made the last few feet 
> consistently
> much easier also.
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Robert E. Sloat 
> <resloat at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> Jack-I had some minor troubles with the slugs catching on the gate plate
>> when my 2002 was first commissioned.  It has the Charleston mast.  I 
>> ended
>> up bending and filing the gate plate just a little and have had no 
>> problems
>> the last 6 seasons.  Take a look at where the slugs touch the plate going 
>> up
>> and down and adjust accordingly.
>>
>> I clean the sail track and lubricate the slugs and track before spring
>> launch and once every month squirt a little Harken lube on the slugs. 
>> The
>> only trip to the mast is to attach the halyard.  Hand raising to the top 
>> is
>> done in the cockpit and luff tension is done using the secondary winch.
>>
>> Bob Sloat
>> Savannah 894
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack McDonough" <
>> mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>
>>
>> Irv:
>>>
>>> Thank you. The procedure you describe is exactly what I do now. (The 
>>> gate
>>> plate does exist and is in place.) I'm just annoyed that the system 
>>> doesn't
>>> work as it should -- that is, I should be able to raise the main without
>>> leaving the cockpit. When the water is choppy and the boat is rolling, I
>>> don't like the idea of wrestling with the sail while trying to maintain 
>>> my
>>> balance.
>>>
>>> jack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com>
>>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:00 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have crew, we find it much easier to have some one at the mast
>>>> raise
>>>> the sail, and someone in the cockpit take up the halyard slack. Then
>>>> winch
>>>> the last few inches of halyard. Sometimes its called "jumping"  or
>>>> "Humping"
>>>> the halyard.
>>>> This presupposes that the gate plate Dennis describes is in place and
>>>> adjusted properly.
>>>>
>>>> Irv Grunes
>>>> 2001 Isle of Wight #851
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Dennis Harris <
>>>> dharris02 at embarqmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jack,
>>>>>
>>>>>  It sounds as if your "sail gate" is missing.  On most boats with the
>>>>> Charleston Spar mast, the opening where you insert the sail slugs is
>>>>> covered
>>>>> by a small stainless steel plate, held in place with two thumb screws.
>>>>> With
>>>>> these in place, there is no way that the sail slugs can fall out. 
>>>>> This
>>>>> part
>>>>> is on the starboard side of the mast.  Once you get it adjusted, your
>>>>> sail
>>>>> slugs will slide past this point satisfactorily.  I always head into 
>>>>> the
>>>>> wind when hoisting the mainsail, and make sure that the boat is headed
>>>>> such
>>>>> that the boom and sail want to pull out to the port side just a 
>>>>> little,
>>>>> so
>>>>> that there is no pressure against the opening and the "sail gate". 
>>>>> This
>>>>> plus occasionally spraying the sail slugs (slides) with McLube "Sail
>>>>> Kote"
>>>>> should make raising the mainsail work well.  The parts that you need 
>>>>> are
>>>>> Charleston Spar sail gate #34201157009 and 2 tumb screws #28607604015.
>>>>> The
>>>>> above relates to the standard factory setup.  You used the term "sail
>>>>> cars"
>>>>> which suggests that your boat might have been modified with a 
>>>>> different
>>>>> sail
>>>>> slug/slide arrangement, and if so, then the above might not apply to
>>>>> your
>>>>> particular boat.  Charleston Spar has a web site:
>>>>> www.charlestonspar.comThere phone number is 704 597 1502.  I have a 
>>>>> 2000
>>>>> model and have never had
>>>>> the problems that you described.  Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis Harris
>>>>> C320 #694
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack McDonough" <
>>>>> mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  We're in Tewksbury, Mass., but we sail out of the Jubilee Yacht Club 
>>>>> in
>>>>>
>>>>>> Beverly Harbor. We bought a 2003 Catalina 320 new after having a Cape
>>>>>> Dory
>>>>>> 30 for a number of years. A fellow club member has a 2007 model that
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> many improvements over ours, including a different mast. We've had
>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>> but trouble trying to raise and lower our main. The sail cars either
>>>>>> jam in
>>>>>> the gate or fall out, negating the ability to raise the sail from the
>>>>>> cockpit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jack McDonough
>>>>>> Sure Bet #947
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Seastream" <
>>>>>> robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:52 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  We're on one of four moorings off Hilton Park (just downriver of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bridge over Dover Point) belonging to Great Bay Marine.
>>>>>>> That way we don't have to wait for low tide, which is the only time 
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> can squeak under that bridge.
>>>>>>> The run out to Portsmouth Harbor takes about an hour or less.  We
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> try going with a fair tide.
>>>>>>> You grew up in Dover?  Where are you these days?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Seastream
>>>>>>> Intuition # 906
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Jack McDonough wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  If you come down through Portsmouth Harbor, you must start in Great
>>>>>>> Bay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at Dover Point. (I grew up in Dover.) That's a long way in and 
>>>>>>>> out,
>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>> it? And Great Bay looks to have some swirly currents. And  the
>>>>>>>> current under
>>>>>>>> those bridges in Portsmouth are swift, with a  capital S.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Seastream" <
>>>>>>>> robert.seastream at comcast.net
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:12 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  We have about an hour run to get downriver and out of Portsmouth
>>>>>>>> harbor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to offshore.  We run at 2400 for fuel economy, 3000 if we  have to
>>>>>>>>> hustle to
>>>>>>>>> make the bridge openings.  3200 is the  continuous max rating for
>>>>>>>>> our Yanmar
>>>>>>>>> 3GM30F.  Once or twice a  year, I run WOT (3600 rpm; coincides 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the one
>>>>>>>>> hour engine  rating) for about 15 minutes. Never had 'smoke' 
>>>>>>>>> issues,
>>>>>>>>> however
>>>>>>>>>  our engine only has about 300 hours on it. Engine temps range 
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> 160 to
>>>>>>>>> 180 degrees farenheit under those respective conditions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bob Seastream
>>>>>>>>> Intuition # 906
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Allan S. Field wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  We make sure that every time we run the engine, we run at 3,000 
>>>>>>>>> rpm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for at
>>>>>>>>>> least 5 minutes.  600 hours and no smoke although we intend to 
>>>>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> clean the elbow prophylactically this winter regardless.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Allan S. Field
>>>>>>>>>> Sea Shadow - #808
>>>>>>>>>> Columbia, MD
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>> Crosby
>>>>>>>>>> Roper
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:42 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: c320-list at catalina320.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thought I'd pass this along for general lesson learned file. In
>>>>>>>>>> july
>>>>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>>>>> way back from Catalina island to San Diego, I noticed that when I
>>>>>>>>>> ran
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> RPM's up to 3200, I got a bit of black/brown smoke from exhaust.
>>>>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>>>>> tanks were full and there was a bunch of stuff on board, I 
>>>>>>>>>> figured
>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>> just overloading the engine was the problem. On my next trip to
>>>>>>>>>> catalina on
>>>>>>>>>> Labor day, I noted smoke at 3000 RPM. To make a long story short,
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> problem progressed rap[idly over the next 30 hrs of engine use to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>> where even at 2000 RPM i was seeing smoke. We limped back to the
>>>>>>>>>> slip
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> called mechanic ( to whom I had spoken while in Catalina and who
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> advised
>>>>>>>>>> me that problem was likely a clogged exhaust mixing elbow and OK 
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>> engine at low RPM as long as it was not producing smoke.) He came
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> Monday and problem was indeed exhaust mixing elbow. The engine is 
>>>>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>> old and has about 220 hrs on it. He admonished me for not using 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>>>> enough (in front of my wife, which should work out well for 
>>>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>>>> sailing
>>>>>>>>>> schedule) and for babying the engine. So, for anyone else who 
>>>>>>>>>> tends
>>>>>>>>>> to baby
>>>>>>>>>> their diesel, run it frequently and run it hard. But we already
>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> that!Crosby Roper, VMD
>>>>>>>>>> Tethys # 1054
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>>>>>
>>>
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>
>
> -- 
> Chris Burti Farmville, NC 