[C320-list] Gate Plate

Tue Sep 23 03:14:38 PDT 2008

My experience matches Bob's except when we bought # 867, we haad problems
initially because the dealer had lost the gate and replaced it with a door
strike plate. After getting the proper gate and taking a little time
installing it, we have had no problem raising the main from the cockpit. I
set the top of the gate at the edge of the slot but not in it and the bottom
about 1.5 mm to starboard. A little sailkote on the slugs and first few feet
of slot a couple times a year helps a bunch. Freeing up the reef lines by
installing blocks at the cringles really made the last few feet consistently
much easier also.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Robert E. Sloat <resloat at comcast.net>wrote:

> Jack-I had some minor troubles with the slugs catching on the gate plate
> when my 2002 was first commissioned.  It has the Charleston mast.  I ended
> up bending and filing the gate plate just a little and have had no problems
> the last 6 seasons.  Take a look at where the slugs touch the plate going up
> and down and adjust accordingly.
>
> I clean the sail track and lubricate the slugs and track before spring
> launch and once every month squirt a little Harken lube on the slugs.  The
> only trip to the mast is to attach the halyard.  Hand raising to the top is
> done in the cockpit and luff tension is done using the secondary winch.
>
> Bob Sloat
> Savannah 894
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack McDonough" <
> mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>
>
> Irv:
>>
>> Thank you. The procedure you describe is exactly what I do now. (The gate
>> plate does exist and is in place.) I'm just annoyed that the system doesn't
>> work as it should -- that is, I should be able to raise the main without
>> leaving the cockpit. When the water is choppy and the boat is rolling, I
>> don't like the idea of wrestling with the sail while trying to maintain my
>> balance.
>>
>> jack
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com>
>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>
>>
>> If you have crew, we find it much easier to have some one at the mast
>>> raise
>>> the sail, and someone in the cockpit take up the halyard slack. Then
>>> winch
>>> the last few inches of halyard. Sometimes its called "jumping"  or
>>> "Humping"
>>> the halyard.
>>> This presupposes that the gate plate Dennis describes is in place and
>>> adjusted properly.
>>>
>>> Irv Grunes
>>> 2001 Isle of Wight #851
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Dennis Harris <
>>> dharris02 at embarqmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> Jack,
>>>>
>>>>  It sounds as if your "sail gate" is missing.  On most boats with the
>>>> Charleston Spar mast, the opening where you insert the sail slugs is
>>>> covered
>>>> by a small stainless steel plate, held in place with two thumb screws.
>>>> With
>>>> these in place, there is no way that the sail slugs can fall out.  This
>>>> part
>>>> is on the starboard side of the mast.  Once you get it adjusted, your
>>>> sail
>>>> slugs will slide past this point satisfactorily.  I always head into the
>>>> wind when hoisting the mainsail, and make sure that the boat is headed
>>>> such
>>>> that the boom and sail want to pull out to the port side just a little,
>>>> so
>>>> that there is no pressure against the opening and the "sail gate".  This
>>>> plus occasionally spraying the sail slugs (slides) with McLube "Sail
>>>> Kote"
>>>> should make raising the mainsail work well.  The parts that you need are
>>>> Charleston Spar sail gate #34201157009 and 2 tumb screws #28607604015.
>>>> The
>>>> above relates to the standard factory setup.  You used the term "sail
>>>> cars"
>>>> which suggests that your boat might have been modified with a different
>>>> sail
>>>> slug/slide arrangement, and if so, then the above might not apply to
>>>> your
>>>> particular boat.  Charleston Spar has a web site:
>>>> www.charlestonspar.comThere phone number is 704 597 1502.  I have a 2000
>>>> model and have never had
>>>> the problems that you described.  Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis Harris
>>>> C320 #694
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack McDonough" <
>>>> mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  We're in Tewksbury, Mass., but we sail out of the Jubilee Yacht Club in
>>>>
>>>>> Beverly Harbor. We bought a 2003 Catalina 320 new after having a Cape
>>>>> Dory
>>>>> 30 for a number of years. A fellow club member has a 2007 model that
>>>>> has
>>>>> many improvements over ours, including a different mast. We've had
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> but trouble trying to raise and lower our main. The sail cars either
>>>>> jam in
>>>>> the gate or fall out, negating the ability to raise the sail from the
>>>>> cockpit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack McDonough
>>>>> Sure Bet #947
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Seastream" <
>>>>> robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  We're on one of four moorings off Hilton Park (just downriver of the
>>>>>
>>>>>> bridge over Dover Point) belonging to Great Bay Marine.
>>>>>> That way we don't have to wait for low tide, which is the only time we
>>>>>> can squeak under that bridge.
>>>>>> The run out to Portsmouth Harbor takes about an hour or less.  We
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> try going with a fair tide.
>>>>>> You grew up in Dover?  Where are you these days?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Seastream
>>>>>> Intuition # 906
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Jack McDonough wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  If you come down through Portsmouth Harbor, you must start in Great
>>>>>> Bay
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at Dover Point. (I grew up in Dover.) That's a long way in and  out,
>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>> it? And Great Bay looks to have some swirly currents. And  the
>>>>>>> current under
>>>>>>> those bridges in Portsmouth are swift, with a  capital S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Seastream" <
>>>>>>> robert.seastream at comcast.net
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:12 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  We have about an hour run to get downriver and out of Portsmouth
>>>>>>> harbor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to offshore.  We run at 2400 for fuel economy, 3000 if we  have to
>>>>>>>> hustle to
>>>>>>>> make the bridge openings.  3200 is the  continuous max rating for
>>>>>>>> our Yanmar
>>>>>>>> 3GM30F.  Once or twice a  year, I run WOT (3600 rpm; coincides with
>>>>>>>> the one
>>>>>>>> hour engine  rating) for about 15 minutes. Never had 'smoke' issues,
>>>>>>>> however
>>>>>>>>  our engine only has about 300 hours on it. Engine temps range  from
>>>>>>>> 160 to
>>>>>>>> 180 degrees farenheit under those respective conditions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bob Seastream
>>>>>>>> Intuition # 906
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Allan S. Field wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  We make sure that every time we run the engine, we run at 3,000 rpm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for at
>>>>>>>>> least 5 minutes.  600 hours and no smoke although we intend to pull
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> clean the elbow prophylactically this winter regardless.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Allan S. Field
>>>>>>>>> Sea Shadow - #808
>>>>>>>>> Columbia, MD
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>> Crosby
>>>>>>>>> Roper
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:42 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: c320-list at catalina320.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thought I'd pass this along for general lesson learned file. In
>>>>>>>>> july
>>>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>>>> way back from Catalina island to San Diego, I noticed that when I
>>>>>>>>> ran
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> RPM's up to 3200, I got a bit of black/brown smoke from exhaust.
>>>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>>>> tanks were full and there was a bunch of stuff on board, I figured
>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>> just overloading the engine was the problem. On my next trip to
>>>>>>>>> catalina on
>>>>>>>>> Labor day, I noted smoke at 3000 RPM. To make a long story short,
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> problem progressed rap[idly over the next 30 hrs of engine use to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>> where even at 2000 RPM i was seeing smoke. We limped back to the
>>>>>>>>> slip
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> called mechanic ( to whom I had spoken while in Catalina and who
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> advised
>>>>>>>>> me that problem was likely a clogged exhaust mixing elbow and OK to
>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>> engine at low RPM as long as it was not producing smoke.) He came
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> Monday and problem was indeed exhaust mixing elbow. The engine is 3
>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>> old and has about 220 hrs on it. He admonished me for not using the
>>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>>> enough (in front of my wife, which should work out well for future
>>>>>>>>> sailing
>>>>>>>>> schedule) and for babying the engine. So, for anyone else who tends
>>>>>>>>> to baby
>>>>>>>>> their diesel, run it frequently and run it hard. But we already
>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> that!Crosby Roper, VMD
>>>>>>>>> Tethys # 1054
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