[C320-list] Mooring or Slip
Tim
chillinonahd at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 26 18:57:10 PDT 2009
Hey Jack - I'm on a mooring been that way for 4 seasons now. So you are not the only one !!
Tim - Calypso #603
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Re Batteries & Fridge (Jack McDonough)
2. Re: Value of this forum (Bill Sloane)
3. Catalina Customer Service (Ken Danko)
4. Re: Value of this forum (Mike Paris)
5. Re: Catalina Customer Service (Chris Burti)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:59:36 -0700
From: "Jack McDonough" <mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Re Batteries & Fridge
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Irv:
Yes, I'm sure you're right about all that. The first time we used shore
power, I had to enlist the expertise of our daughter, the engineer, to read
the wiring schematic and advise me what to do. So you see where I'm coming
from.
jack
2003 #947
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com>
To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Re Batteries & Fridge
> Jack,
> I'm not sure but I think that the engine alternator only charges the
> battery
> that it is connected to.
> So if you use both batteries to start, leave it there until you shut it
> down, then you will be putting charge into both batteries.
> One thing that I am sure of is that if you have both batteries connected
> in
> parallel, the higher charged battery will send current to the lower
> charged
> battery until both are at equilibrium. So you lose the advantage of
> having
> at least one battery with a higher charge.
>
> Irv Grunes
> 2001 #851
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Jack McDonough
> <mcdonough5 at verizon.net>wrote:
>
>> Irv:
>>
>> I always start the engine on Both (or ALL), to make certain I have enough
>> juice to get it going. Then I switch to either 1 or 2. I don't
>> understand
>> what you mean when you say to switch to 1 or 2 after you STOP the
>> engine.
>> Why not switch while it's running? Once it's stopped, what difference
>> does
>> it make which battery setting you're on unless you're running
>> refrigeration
>> or lights or something else?
>>
>> I have discussed this battery subject over the years with any number of
>> boat owners and yacht yard personnel. I have learned that
>> (1) it's OK to run it on All; (2) It's not wise to run it on All; (3)
>> It's
>> OK to switch batteries while the engine is running (but, of course, don't
>> turn it to Off.); (4) Everything in 1, 2 and 3 is right. (5) Everything
>> in
>> 1,2 and 3 is wrong. In other words, ask 10 people and you'll get 10
>> different answers.
>>
>> On a totally different subject, am I the only 320 owner on the planet
>> whose
>> boat is on a mooring? Everyone else on this 320 website seems to be at a
>> slip.
>>
>> jack
>> #947
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com>
>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:42 AM
>> Subject: [C320-list] Re Batteries & Fridge
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad,
>>> No sense FREAKING
>>>
>>> It is not advisable to ever have the batteries on both because then the
>>> higher battery will try to charge toe lower battery with the end result
>>> two
>>> lower batteries.
>>> If you try to start the engine and either of the batteries won't do it
>>> independently, then connect to both to get a little more power. Keep
>>> them
>>> on
>>> both until you stop the engine and go back to 1 or 2
>>> If you are out and know you will be running the engine for a while, then
>>> put
>>> the batteries to both so the engine generator will be charging both. As
>>> soon
>>> as you stop the engine go back to 1 or 2
>>>
>>> Re the fridge. When in the slip, with the charger on, the charger is
>>> connected to each battery independently.so there is no advantage to
>>> having
>>> them on both. So leave the switch on one or two
>>> If you leave the fridge on and for some reason you lose dock power, the
>>> charger turns off and the fridge will just knock down the one battery
>>> and
>>> not both. Thats why you only want one battery on.
>>>
>>> At our slip on Sue Creek, the dock power is very sensitive to lightening
>>> and
>>> so we just don't leave the fridge on. And since the fridge cools off
>>> quickly, and by the time we want a beer, its cold.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps the question on the battery switch position
>>>
>>> Irv Grunes
>>> 2001 #851
>>>
>>
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:00:36 -0700
From: Bill Sloane <southsoundbill at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Value of this forum
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Mike,
Are you saying I make the adjustment at the engine and do not need to take
off the compass?
Bill.
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Mike Paris <mparis495 at gmail.com> wrote:
> There is clamp on the throttle cable down at the engine that adjusts the
> tension by turning a bolt that puts pressure on the cable. Have someone
> adjust the tension on the bolt while you move the throttle lever to set it
> how you would like it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Bill Sloane <southsoundbill at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree too. My throttle problem is a little different. Above 2,000
>> RPM's,
>> the throttle will fall back to a lower speed. To cruise at 2,500 RPM's or
>> above, I have to tie the throttle to the vertical post of the NavPod with
>> a
>> small rope. I am thinking that if I take the compass off the housing,
>> there
>> must be a nut to tighten to keep this from happening.
>>
>> Bill
>> No. 554
>> 'Endless Summer'
>> Olympia WA
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Rick Evans <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> Gil
>>>
>>> I agree about the value of the group. I had that problem for a whole
>>> season
>>> before I decided to ask the group. It even resulted in me Shearing a
>>> throttle lever bolt. I also assumed it was the cable but I asked here
>>> first
>>> and was amazed.
>>>
>>> Saved money and most likely two days upside down in some not very fun
>>> positions.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> 724
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: niedobre at aol.com
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:36:25
>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Value of this forum
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Less than 2 hours ago I asked for some information about a throttle cable
>>> that was seized.? I assumed the cable was the problem.? I was advised
>>> within
>>> less than an hour to disconnect the cable and check the linkage on the
>>> engine by two members who had the same problem.
>>>
>>> I ran down to the boat to take their advice.? The cable was not seized,
>>> the
>>> linkage to the engine was the problem.? I sprayed some corrosion buster
>>> on
>>> the lever linkage worked it up and down and now it is fixed.? I was ready
>>> to
>>> buy a new cable and replace it.
>>>
>>> Saved time and $$$$$.
>>>
>>> Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gil s/v Amara #731
>>>
>>>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:03:03 -0700
From: Ken Danko <ken320 at sbcglobal.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Catalina Customer Service
Message-ID: <4A956AC7.9060300 at sbcglobal.net>
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Hi all,
I would like to ask your advice on a customer service problem I am
currently experiencing. This is actually a continuation of the saga of
the leaky fuel tank. I found the leak, it was on the seam in the lower
corner. I called Catalina and said I wanted to order a new tank. The guy
I talked to took all my information and said that he would call me back,
he was going to check inventory, etc. A week went by and no call back. I
called again and got his voice mail. I left a message asking about the
status of my order. Another week went by with no call back. I called
again and was told that he was on the phone and would I like to leave a
message on his voice mail. I said no, and asked the woman to help me.
The man I originally talked to came on the line and said that he would
email me specs so that I could approve the order, he said that he wanted
to make sure that the tank fit. But I never got an email. So here it is
two weeks since I originally tried to order the tank and I still haven't
been able to place an order. It is prime sailing season. In my opinion
the weld on the tank was bad otherwise it should have lasted 20 years or
more. I am feeling like I should have bought a Beneteau. What should I do?
Ken Danko
Grace, #802
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:07:48 -0700
From: Mike Paris <mparis495 at gmail.com>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Value of this forum
Message-ID: <B69190C9-7739-4E8A-A0E5-1D01884729FD at gmail.com>
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A couple of years ago mine was doing the same thing - the throttle
lever would not stay above 2300. We tightened the bolt slightly and
the problem was solved. It is sort of like a c-clamp and it presses on
the cable casing. Mine is accessable from the aft engine compartment.
Mike P
734
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Bill Sloane <southsoundbill at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Are you saying I make the adjustment at the engine and do not need
> to take
> off the compass?
>
> Bill.
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Mike Paris <mparis495 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There is clamp on the throttle cable down at the engine that
>> adjusts the
>> tension by turning a bolt that puts pressure on the cable. Have
>> someone
>> adjust the tension on the bolt while you move the throttle lever to
>> set it
>> how you would like it.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Bill Sloane <southsoundbill at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree too. My throttle problem is a little different. Above 2,000
>>> RPM's,
>>> the throttle will fall back to a lower speed. To cruise at 2,500
>>> RPM's or
>>> above, I have to tie the throttle to the vertical post of the
>>> NavPod with
>>> a
>>> small rope. I am thinking that if I take the compass off the
>>> housing,
>>> there
>>> must be a nut to tighten to keep this from happening.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> No. 554
>>> 'Endless Summer'
>>> Olympia WA
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Rick Evans <ericstillwellevans at gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gil
>>>>
>>>> I agree about the value of the group. I had that problem for a
>>>> whole
>>>> season
>>>> before I decided to ask the group. It even resulted in me
>>>> Shearing a
>>>> throttle lever bolt. I also assumed it was the cable but I asked
>>>> here
>>>> first
>>>> and was amazed.
>>>>
>>>> Saved money and most likely two days upside down in some not very
>>>> fun
>>>> positions.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>> 724
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: niedobre at aol.com
>>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:36:25
>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Value of this forum
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Less than 2 hours ago I asked for some information about a
>>>> throttle cable
>>>> that was seized.? I assumed the cable was the problem.? I was
>>>> advised
>>>> within
>>>> less than an hour to disconnect the cable and check the linkage
>>>> on the
>>>> engine by two members who had the same problem.
>>>>
>>>> I ran down to the boat to take their advice.? The cable was not
>>>> seized,
>>>> the
>>>> linkage to the engine was the problem.? I sprayed some corrosion
>>>> buster
>>>> on
>>>> the lever linkage worked it up and down and now it is fixed.? I
>>>> was ready
>>>> to
>>>> buy a new cable and replace it.
>>>>
>>>> Saved time and $$$$$.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gil s/v Amara #731
>>>>
>>>>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:44:51 -0400
From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Catalina Customer Service
Message-ID:
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Call Catalina in California and ask to speak with Frank Butler. He will
speak with you or will definitely return your call within a couple of days
at most...usually faster. Tell him what you told us as politley as you told
us and ask for his assitance.
I found him to be a great customer service rep...unusual in that it is his
company ane he is the CEO...
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Ken Danko <ken320 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to ask your advice on a customer service problem I am
> currently experiencing. This is actually a continuation of the saga of the
> leaky fuel tank. I found the leak, it was on the seam in the lower corner. I
> called Catalina and said I wanted to order a new tank. The guy I talked to
> took all my information and said that he would call me back, he was going to
> check inventory, etc. A week went by and no call back. I called again and
> got his voice mail. I left a message asking about the status of my order.
> Another week went by with no call back. I called again and was told that he
> was on the phone and would I like to leave a message on his voice mail. I
> said no, and asked the woman to help me. The man I originally talked to came
> on the line and said that he would email me specs so that I could approve
> the order, he said that he wanted to make sure that the tank fit. But I
> never got an email. So here it is two weeks since I originally tried to
> order the tank and I still haven't been able to place an order. It is prime
> sailing season. In my opinion the weld on the tank was bad otherwise it
> should have lasted 20 years or more. I am feeling like I should have bought
> a Beneteau. What should I do?
>
> Ken Danko
> Grace, #802
>
>
>
>
>
--
Chris Burti Farmville, NC
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