[C320-list] Mooring or Slip

[Jack McDonough]

Andrew:

Less than $400 a month, including parking? You live in LaLa land. Two nights 
at a slip in downtown Boston, with shore power, costs nearly that much. 
Houses in SF must be in the $25,000-$50,000 range.

Slips are easier for the crew to get on and off? The crew is Bet, for whom 
Sure Bet is named. She and I manage just fine with launch service. (There 
are no slips at our club.) Loading and unloading gear? Usually no more than 
three bags. What's the problem? Guests? Let them use the head in the club 
before they get on the launch. Kids? The grandchildren. Once a season. On 
the launch.  Laundry facilities? The washer/dryer is just steps from the 
master bedroom of our condo.

If you're paying less than $400 a month for a slip in SF, I'd recommend 
selling your house and moving onto the boat. But don't ever move to the 
northeast.

jack
#947




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Santangelo" <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mooring or Slip


> Ahhh - the great mooring vs. slip debate
>
> I have to say I am a boat slip person for many reasons:
>
> * Very easy for crew to get on and off
> * I am always training new crew.  Dock is better for training for 
> newbies.
> * Guests - easy for them to use the facilities, and even that last  minute 
> run to the head (vs. filling up the holding tank on the boat  too 
> quickly).
> * Kids - easy for kids.  Easy access to the play ground, stores, and 
> aforementioned head.
> * Easier cleaning the boat.  Crew also helps cleaning boat - having 
> access to dock, hose(s) etc. makes life so much easier.
> * Dock AC power is fine and very cheap.
> * Pressure water off dock is fine - no need to wear down the boat's 
> pressure water pump.
> * Easy access to laundry facilities.
> * No need to use launch/dingy all the time.
> * Easier to have marina and fellow slip mates monitor and check on my 
> boat.
> * Easier for boat servicing by myself and others
> * Easier loading/unloading gear.
> * Never had a problem docking.  Never a concern.
>
> Now a few more comments:
>
> * The marinas I have been at have been very quiet.  Even 4th of July -  by 
> midnight it is dead.  I use and live on my boat a lot and to be  honest 
> most of the time the marinas are dead silent except for sea  gulls and 
> such.  Which adds to my surprise statement - there was some  concern 
> keeping my boat at Pier 39 on Fisherman's Wharf in downtown  San 
> Francisco.  The crowds, the noise and the mayhem.  The truth be  told - at 
> the marina it is very quiet.  Shockingly quiet.  I would  never know I am 
> in a big city.  As a matter of fact, in the morning  going to work it 
> seems very few people are in SFO.  Does any one work  before 10:00 AM 
> there????  Also does anyone use their boats there?   There are a few live 
> a boards, quiet and very nice, but otherwise the  boats just sit and do 
> nothing.    So no one will convince me it is  loud and rowdy at the 
> marinas I have been at.  Rarely see any of it.
>
> * Cost.  Yes moorings are cheap, but slips are not that bad.  I pay  under 
> $400/month and it includes $3/day for parking in downtown SFO.   That is 
> everything - water, electric, slip.  Heck, one cannot park  that cheap in 
> SFO!  In Michigan it averaged about $400/month and that  included the 
> yacht club membership. Either way, this cost is not bad  for all the added 
> perks, convenience and time savings.
>
> Lastly, I have been a die hard sailor for 26 seasons, and for me the  slip 
> is the only way to go.  Do I anchor and explore, certainly.  But  the main 
> base is a slip.  Keeps it easy for crew, family, friends,  newbies and 
> "Dawn Treader".
>
> Best Regards,
> Andrew
>
> C320 "Dawn Treader"
> #333
>
>