[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 644, Issue 1
Alan Goodman
goodmanalanlee at hotmail.com
Tue Dec 8 13:18:53 PST 2009
John M -
I purchased a C320 last month (hull #67) and asked my surveyor about the area around both the strut and shaft exit. As he explained it to me, the area around both the strut and shaft exit are "faired" after the propulsion system is installed. This is necessary so as to provide enough clearance at these two points to allow the propulsion system to be properly aligned. Both the strut and shaft exit have a square area on the outside of the hull where the material is 'fairing compound' which is different from the adjoining (and balance) of the hull. If your 'visible seam' is a straight line either offset from or square around the strut and shaft exit, most likely you are seeing the hull / fairing interface. A 'visible seam' is OK; minor surface cracks or defects are probably OK, but if more serious need to be repaired, which is not difficult given that this is not an appearance surface and gets covered by bottom paint. Best advice, find a boat you like without any fatal flaws (example: obvious water damage inside), then have a surveyor confirm and deduct the repairs from the purchase price. Every boat (brand new or previuosly enjoyed) has issues needing repair ... just need to stay away from fatal flaws like rotted decks on a used boat ... and know the other defects are easily repaired. Around Lake Michigan, a prepurchase survey runs about $500 from a AMS certified surveyor. Alan
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> 1. Re: Seating Chain Plates (pat reynolds)
> 2. cold weather sail: a few pics (Kevin)
> 3. Re: cold weather sail: a few pics (Jeanne DeLaCruz)
> 4. Re: cold weather sail: a few pics (BAdams3491 at aol.com)
> 5. Re: cold weather sail: a few pics (Brad Kuether)
> 6. Re: cold weather sail: a few pics (Allan S. Field)
> 7. Re: cold weather sail: a few pics (Peter & Barbara Sheerin)
> 8. Re: cold weather sail: a few pics (wflowe3 at netscape.net)
> 9. Re: cold weather sail: a few pics (Kevin)
> 10. Re: cold weather sail: a few pics (Bruce Heyman)
> 11. Re: SMILES AROUND THE PROP SHAFT STRUT AND EXIT HOLE OF PROP
> SHAFT (sail-ability at sympatico.ca)
> 12. Re: SMILES AROUND THE PROP SHAFT STRUT AND EXIT HOLE OFPROP
> SHAFT (pjaarch)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:51:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: pat reynolds <lorasalum at yahoo.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Seating Chain Plates
> Message-ID: <529851.17489.qm at web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> to add to warren's note, when you caulk do not tighten the plate down hard until the caulk sets up a little, this makes a more pliable seal.
>
> --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Seating Chain Plates
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 5:47 AM
> > To: Pat Kenefick, Hull 833, Bath, NC
> >
> > Pat e-mail me off list and I'll send you Chris Burti's
> > rather detailed list
> > of steps in rebedding chain plates. I'm guessing that with
> > your hull no. you
> > won't have an issue with the cored deck.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is an approach I've used for a neat finish. After you
> > remove the deck
> > plate, remove the old caulk from the deck, lay some masking
> > tape around the
> > deck and over the edge of there the plate lies. Now,
> > replace the deck plate
> > and with a knife, lightly score the tape around the edge of
> > the plate.
> > Remove the plate and peel up the tape that was under the
> > plate. When you
> > caulk and replace the deck plate, let the caulk squeeze out
> > from under the
> > plate and cure for a day. Score the caulk around the plate
> > and remove the
> > excess caulk and the tape.? Clean job, no caulk left
> > on the deck.
> >
> >
> >
> > Warren & Pattie Updike
> >
> > Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> >
> > Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:36:00 -0800 (PST)
> From: Kevin <onedrop7 at yahoo.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
> Message-ID: <958789.68537.qm at web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I thought I'd share a few photos from a lovely cold weather solo sail I did on the Chesapeake on Sunday. Self shots were done with a timer and flexible tripod.
>
> http://kevjot.com/photos/091206sail/
>
> It took about an hour to get the snow and ice off the deck to head out, but once I was out it was a beautuful but unseasonably cold day -- mostly sunny, temps in the high 30's, winds 10-12. I had a blast.
>
> Any other cold weather sailors among us? How low will you go? (temperature-wise, though I know wind and sun factors into the decision)
>
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Rooney
> S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
> Deale, MD
> http://kevjot.com/boat/
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:55:33 -0800
> From: "Jeanne DeLaCruz" <jfdelacruz at msn.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
> Message-ID: <BLU129-DS1D3A3C359FB89963DECD0DB900 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> You gotta be kidding. I'm in So Cal. Pictures are great!
>
> Jeanne
> #846
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin<mailto:onedrop7 at yahoo.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com<mailto:C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:36 PM
> Subject: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
>
>
> I thought I'd share a few photos from a lovely cold weather solo sail I did on the Chesapeake on Sunday. Self shots were done with a timer and flexible tripod.
>
> http://kevjot.com/photos/091206sail/<http://kevjot.com/photos/091206sail/>
>
> It took about an hour to get the snow and ice off the deck to head out, but once I was out it was a beautuful but unseasonably cold day -- mostly sunny, temps in the high 30's, winds 10-12. I had a blast.
>
> Any other cold weather sailors among us? How low will you go? (temperature-wise, though I know wind and sun factors into the decision)
>
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Rooney
> S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
> Deale, MD
> http://kevjot.com/boat/<http://kevjot.com/boat/>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:28:14 EST
> From: BAdams3491 at aol.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
> Message-ID: <c04.72257924.384ef79e at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Great pics, but way too cold for me. If you don't need a cooler to keep
> the beer old for an after sail toddy...it's too cold.
>
> Bert
> At Ease
> #442
>
>
> In a message dated 12/7/2009 5:36:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> onedrop7 at yahoo.com writes:
>
> I thought I'd share a few photos from a lovely cold weather solo sail I
> did on the Chesapeake on Sunday. Self shots were done with a timer and
> flexible tripod.
>
> http://kevjot.com/photos/091206sail/
>
> It took about an hour to get the snow and ice off the deck to head out,
> but once I was out it was a beautuful but unseasonably cold day -- mostly
> sunny, temps in the high 30's, winds 10-12. I had a blast.
>
> Any other cold weather sailors among us? How low will you go?
> (temperature-wise, though I know wind and sun factors into the decision)
>
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Rooney
> S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
> Deale, MD
> http://kevjot.com/boat/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:02:36 -0500
> From: "Brad Kuether" <bkuether at comcast.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
> Message-ID: <DEF7E11B6EBE4BD1A8652457F533840A at BradPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> I used to LOVE cold weather sailing, and would do it again if I didn't have
> the kids.
>
> What is funny, I have a picture from a couple years back where I was sailing
> and holding sign that said:
>
> Dec 7th, Still Sailing!
>
> We were in tee shirts!!!!
>
> -Brad, Mary, Monica, and Jarod
> "Independence"
> 2004 Catalina 320 Hull 1006
> Middle River, MD
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin" <onedrop7 at yahoo.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:36 PM
> Subject: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
>
>
> >I thought I'd share a few photos from a lovely cold weather solo sail I did
> >on the Chesapeake on Sunday. Self shots were done with a timer and flexible
> >tripod.
> >
> > http://kevjot.com/photos/091206sail/
> >
> > It took about an hour to get the snow and ice off the deck to head out,
> > but once I was out it was a beautuful but unseasonably cold day -- mostly
> > sunny, temps in the high 30's, winds 10-12. I had a blast.
> >
> > Any other cold weather sailors among us? How low will you go?
> > (temperature-wise, though I know wind and sun factors into the decision)
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --
> > Kevin Rooney
> > S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
> > Deale, MD
> > http://kevjot.com/boat/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:35:12 -0500
> From: "Allan S. Field" <allan.field at verizon.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
> Message-ID: <000001ca77af$117f7bb0$347e7310$@field at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Kevin - I wound up with a bad head/chest cold or would have seen you out
> there on Sunday! Through the years, I have been able to sail in every month
> of the year. - Allan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:36 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
>
> I thought I'd share a few photos from a lovely cold weather solo sail I did
> on the Chesapeake on Sunday. Self shots were done with a timer and flexible
> tripod.
>
> http://kevjot.com/photos/091206sail/
>
> It took about an hour to get the snow and ice off the deck to head out, but
> once I was out it was a beautuful but unseasonably cold day -- mostly sunny,
> temps in the high 30's, winds 10-12. I had a blast.
>
> Any other cold weather sailors among us? How low will you go?
> (temperature-wise, though I know wind and sun factors into the decision)
>
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Rooney
> S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
> Deale, MD
> http://kevjot.com/boat/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:24:15 +1000
> From: "Peter & Barbara Sheerin" <sheerinp at bigpond.net.au>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
> Message-ID: <E8791E0B5CC54BA98A9880F572B40078 at a200K00PC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Great photos Kevin. Kevin what brand are those speakers you have under the
> stern seats. They look impressive. Cheers Peter "Jaraman"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin" <onedrop7 at yahoo.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:36 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
>
>
> >I thought I'd share a few photos from a lovely cold weather solo sail I did
> >on the Chesapeake on Sunday. Self shots were done with a timer and flexible
> >tripod.
> >
> > http://kevjot.com/photos/091206sail/
> >
> > It took about an hour to get the snow and ice off the deck to head out,
> > but once I was out it was a beautuful but unseasonably cold day -- mostly
> > sunny, temps in the high 30's, winds 10-12. I had a blast.
> >
> > Any other cold weather sailors among us? How low will you go?
> > (temperature-wise, though I know wind and sun factors into the decision)
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --
> > Kevin Rooney
> > S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
> > Deale, MD
> > http://kevjot.com/boat/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:42:29 -0500
> From: wflowe3 at netscape.net
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
> Message-ID: <8CC46342E2FFD37-4D84-F3D9 at webmail-m033.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> So how long does it take to re-winterize the engine?
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter & Barbara Sheerin <sheerinp at bigpond.net.au>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2009 4:24 am
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
>
>
> Great photos Kevin. Kevin what brand are those speakers you have under the stern seats. They look impressive. Cheers Peter "Jaraman"
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin" <onedrop7 at yahoo.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:36 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
>
> >I thought I'd share a few photos from a lovely cold weather solo sail I did >on the Chesapeake on Sunday. Self shots were done with a timer and flexible >tripod.
> >
> > http://kevjot.com/photos/091206sail/
> >
> > It took about an hour to get the snow and ice off the deck to head out, > but once I was out it was a beautuful but unseasonably cold day -- mostly > sunny, temps in the high 30's, winds 10-12. I had a blast.
> >
> > Any other cold weather sailors among us? How low will you go? > (temperature-wise, though I know wind and sun factors into the decision)
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > --
> > Kevin Rooney
> > S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
> > Deale, MD
> > http://kevjot.com/boat/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:55:39 -0800 (PST)
> From: Kevin <onedrop7 at yahoo.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
> Message-ID: <850184.94134.qm at web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Peter: The speakers are from Polk Audio's Atrium 55's. The are outstanding--surprisingly good bass response. I have the smaller Atrium 45's in black inside.http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/atrium/index.php#atrium55
>
> Allan: Sorry to hear you were under the weather. Hope you're on the mend and will be able to get back out soon.
>
> --
> Kevin Rooney
>
> S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
> Deale, MD
> http://kevjot.com/boat/
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:23:23 -0800
> From: "Bruce Heyman" <bruceheyman at cox.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
> Message-ID: <000301ca7822$c3afa5d0$4b0ef170$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Bert,
> Actually you can still use the cooler to keep the beer from getting too
> cold.
> Bruce
> Somerset #671 SoCal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> BAdams3491 at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:28 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] cold weather sail: a few pics
>
> Great pics, but way too cold for me. If you don't need a cooler to keep
> the beer old for an after sail toddy...it's too cold.
>
> Bert
> At Ease
> #442
>
>
> In a message dated 12/7/2009 5:36:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> onedrop7 at yahoo.com writes:
>
> I thought I'd share a few photos from a lovely cold weather solo sail I
> did on the Chesapeake on Sunday. Self shots were done with a timer and
> flexible tripod.
>
> http://kevjot.com/photos/091206sail/
>
> It took about an hour to get the snow and ice off the deck to head out,
> but once I was out it was a beautuful but unseasonably cold day -- mostly
> sunny, temps in the high 30's, winds 10-12. I had a blast.
>
> Any other cold weather sailors among us? How low will you go?
> (temperature-wise, though I know wind and sun factors into the decision)
>
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Rooney
> S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
> Deale, MD
> http://kevjot.com/boat/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 17:37:05 +0000
> From: <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> To: <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] SMILES AROUND THE PROP SHAFT STRUT AND EXIT
> HOLE OF PROP SHAFT
> Message-ID: <SNT107-W57A0AAC1212B4737A04E16E98F0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> I'm looking to purchase a C 320 and most of the boats I've looked at have a visable seam in the hull around the prop shaft strut and where the prop shaft exits the hull. I recall some chatter on this issue but wasn't paying much attention at the time. Is this a serious issue or something that comes with the purchase, like the "Catalina smile"?
>
> Cheers
>
> JohnM
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:45:54 -0500
> From: "pjaarch" <pjaarch at verizon.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] SMILES AROUND THE PROP SHAFT STRUT AND EXIT
> HOLE OFPROP SHAFT
> Message-ID: <6CC54BC09BBF487C99BA6AAFE1324752 at Paul>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=original
>
> It comes with the purchase of a Catalina. It is a very minor issue. There
> have been several schools of thought as to how to make the repair. Mine
> showed up this year for the first time. I am going to tighten the bolts,
> dremil around the crack, fill with marine tex, sand a barrier coat. The
> entire repair will take just an afternoon and most of that is waiting for
> the materials to dry between applications. This is not an issue to be
> concerned about.
>
> Paul Adison
> S/V "Rough Draft"
> C320 #722
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> To: <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] SMILES AROUND THE PROP SHAFT STRUT AND EXIT HOLE
> OFPROP SHAFT
>
>
>
> I'm looking to purchase a C 320 and most of the boats I've looked at have a
> visable seam in the hull around the prop shaft strut and where the prop
> shaft exits the hull. I recall some chatter on this issue but wasn't paying
> much attention at the time. Is this a serious issue or something that comes
> with the purchase, like the "Catalina smile"?
>
> Cheers
>
> JohnM
>
>
> =
>
>
>
> End of C320-list Digest, Vol 644, Issue 1
> *****************************************
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