[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 662, Issue 1
Chris Burti
clburti at gmail.com
Thu Dec 31 13:33:35 PST 2009
Tom,
Although we are not in Florida, that is where I learned to sail, built my
first boats and weathered several direct hits. I have also experienced three
direct hits and numerous close passes here in NC while owning boats that
normally remain in the water including one storm that put Commitment into a
cypress swamp. I would suggest a visit to the Boat US website. There is a
lot of hurricane prep information to be found there as well as objective
recommendations about how to minimize damage based on quantitative
comparisons of the factors of different storms and different practices at
different locations.
I have had Commitment on a mooring three times, ashore twice and in her slip
for most of the near misses. A welded 5/8 stainless steel mooring ring broke
at the weld in Category-1 Ophelia which resulted in her trip into the swamp.
I normally shackle the anchor chain directly to the mooring chain, but was
working solo after the winds had reached gale force and took the easy way
out to my regret.
It is easier to haul and it is the recommended practice, so that is what I
have done ever since even though I keep my storm mooring maintained and
inspected.
Hope some of this is what you are looking for.
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Thomas Page <pagethomasa at gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a question for members who live in Florida. I am moving to Florida
> later this year and I was curious what you do during hurricane season and
> during an actual hurricane. If a hurricane is approaching do you have your
> boat hauled out? I head that the safest is put your boat on a storm rated
> mooring, is that true? I am looking forward to sailing year round.
>
> Tom Page
> "jeannette III"
>
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> > Today's Topics:
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> > 1. REFRIGERATION UNIT (Chris Descher)
> > 2. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (jennifer ferguson)
> > 3. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (Chris Burti)
> > 4. Lake Macatawa (Chuck and Kathy)
> > 5. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (Chris Descher)
> > 6. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (Chris Burti)
> > 7. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (dwdunn at aol.com)
> > 8. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (Stan)
> > 9. A Great New Year! (Bob Zook)
> > 10. Re: A Great New Year! (Chris Burti)
> > 11. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (Chris Burti)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:06:19 -0600
> > From: "Chris Descher" <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > Message-ID: <AKEBKJHDOPMEGDILPFCEIEPGDOAA.cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > refrigerator. The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> Barbour
> > Cold Machine. Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should go
> > ahead and replace the compressor, too. Does this seem to be a big enough
> > unit according to general concensus?
> >
> > Chris Descher
> > #500
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:02:13 -0800 (PST)
> > From: jennifer ferguson <coralman at bellsouth.net>
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > Message-ID: <138673.41409.qm at web180310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Chris
> > Which type of freon do you have. Your old unit may not be compatible with
> > new condenser. I just purchased a new condenser and compressor from adler
> > barbour. If I were to do it again I might look at other brands. A month
> > after the new installation the new unit stopped freezing. Upon inspection
> of
> > the connections I found a leak at the fittings. They were very tight and
> > tightening more did not help. I removed the connections applied some stop
> > leak sealant and with more tightening It has held so for (2months).
> > Recharged unit with freon. ?I find that the new unit uses about 1 amp per
> hr
> > more than the old one.?MichaelNauti Clew 169
> > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:06 PM
> >
> > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > refrigerator.? The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> Barbour
> > Cold Machine.? Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should go
> > ahead and replace the compressor, too.? Does this seem to be a big enough
> > unit according to general concensus?
> >
> > Chris Descher
> > #500
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:17:00 -0500
> > From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > Message-ID:
> > <79721a9c0912301817j6173c49andd1ae990267e82e2 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > there was an issue with the control module on your vintage unit...check
> > that
> > first...
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > > refrigerator. The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> > Barbour
> > > Cold Machine. Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should
> go
> > > ahead and replace the compressor, too. Does this seem to be a big
> enough
> > > unit according to general concensus?
> > >
> > > Chris Descher
> > > #500
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Chris Burti Farmville, NC
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:46:59 -0500
> > From: "Chuck and Kathy" <katchu at chartermi.net>
> > To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] Lake Macatawa
> > Message-ID: <851C6F2485BA48958A14703C9CE49051 at Mastercomp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Hi Alan - I also keep my boat in Holland Michigan and would be glad to
> help
> > when boating weather returns.
> >
> > Chuck Mueller
> > Northwind
> > 2000 C320 #676
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:18:27 -0500
> > From: Alan Goodman <goodmanalanlee at hotmail.com>
> > To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] OceanAir Screens and Shades
> > Message-ID: <SNT112-W22B730C5F37E3E9C2E9D51C07A0 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd like to install OceanAir, or something similar, screens on the two
> deck
> > hatches of my new-to-me 1994 C320. The boat is in winter storage right
> now
> > (Holland MI area, Lake Macatawa), about 150 miles from my home (Detroit).
> > Can anyone provide thoughts as to the OceanAir product, versus other
> > manufacturers, or versus other solutions such as Velcro screens? Also,
> > what
> > size are the two hatches (example: 12 inch by 12 inch?) so that I can
> > select
> > the proper screen kit size? By the way, any members nearby in Lake
> > Michigan?
> >
> > Alan Goodman
> > (more than) Half Way There
> > 1994 C320
> > Holland, MI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:37:03 -0600
> > From: "Chris Descher" <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > Message-ID: <AKEBKJHDOPMEGDILPFCEMEPIDOAA.cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > The previous owner punctured the original condenser with an ice pick.
> When
> > he replaced it, I believe several things went wrong. The new condenser
> > came
> > pre-charged with r134a. We have vacuumed the system down for 12 hours or
> > more, so it should no longer be contaminated. We believe that something
> is
> > blocking one of the very small capillaries in the condenser. After
> > speaking
> > with Dometic about all this, they recommended replacing the condenser
> > again.
> > I just wasn't sure that that the Cold Machine was big enough for that
> size
> > ice box.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of jennifer
> > ferguson
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:02 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> >
> >
> > Chris
> > Which type of freon do you have. Your old unit may not be compatible with
> > new condenser. I just purchased a new condenser and compressor from adler
> > barbour. If I were to do it again I might look at other brands. A month
> > after the new installation the new unit stopped freezing. Upon inspection
> > of
> > the connections I found a leak at the fittings. They were very tight and
> > tightening more did not help. I removed the connections applied some stop
> > leak sealant and with more tightening It has held so for (2months).
> > Recharged unit with freon. ?I find that the new unit uses about 1 amp per
> > hr
> > more than the old one.?MichaelNauti Clew 169
> > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:06 PM
> >
> > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > refrigerator.? The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> Barbour
> > Cold Machine.? Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should go
> > ahead and replace the compressor, too.? Does this seem to be a big enough
> > unit according to general concensus?
> >
> > Chris Descher
> > #500
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:55:52 -0500
> > From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > Message-ID:
> > <79721a9c0912310555l4037f62t34309ead03ce2331 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > the OEM unit works pretty good for us in a fairly hot climate zone. We
> add
> > a
> > block of ice at the bottom on long cruises, but the biggest efficiency
> > enhancement is a small fan to circulate the cold air. Otherwise the very
> > cold air layers at the bottom of the box and the thermostat keeps the
> unit
> > cycling as the warmer air stays at the top We do thise primarily to
> reduce
> > the current draw on the batteries. Once we started using a fan, we can
> > run it on medium in July and keep the compressor cycling down to a
> minimum.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > The previous owner punctured the original condenser with an ice pick.
> > When
> > > he replaced it, I believe several things went wrong. The new condenser
> > > came
> > > pre-charged with r134a. We have vacuumed the system down for 12 hours
> or
> > > more, so it should no longer be contaminated. We believe that
> something
> > is
> > > blocking one of the very small capillaries in the condenser. After
> > > speaking
> > > with Dometic about all this, they recommended replacing the condenser
> > > again.
> > > I just wasn't sure that that the Cold Machine was big enough for that
> > size
> > > ice box.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of jennifer
> > > ferguson
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:02 PM
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > Which type of freon do you have. Your old unit may not be compatible
> with
> > > new condenser. I just purchased a new condenser and compressor from
> adler
> > > barbour. If I were to do it again I might look at other brands. A month
> > > after the new installation the new unit stopped freezing. Upon
> inspection
> > > of
> > > the connections I found a leak at the fittings. They were very tight
> and
> > > tightening more did not help. I removed the connections applied some
> stop
> > > leak sealant and with more tightening It has held so for (2months).
> > > Recharged unit with freon. I find that the new unit uses about 1 amp
> per
> > > hr
> > > more than the old one. MichaelNauti Clew 169
> > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> > > Subject: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:06 PM
> > >
> > > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > > refrigerator. The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> > Barbour
> > > Cold Machine. Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should
> go
> > > ahead and replace the compressor, too. Does this seem to be a big
> enough
> > > unit according to general concensus?
> > >
> > > Chris Descher
> > > #500
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Chris Burti Farmville, NC
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:01:47 +0000
> > From: dwdunn at aol.com
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
> <639342346-1262271791-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-417887473- at bda932.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with SprintSpeed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:55:52
> > To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> >
> > the OEM unit works pretty good for us in a fairly hot climate zone. We
> add
> > a
> > block of ice at the bottom on long cruises, but the biggest efficiency
> > enhancement is a small fan to circulate the cold air. Otherwise the very
> > cold air layers at the bottom of the box and the thermostat keeps the
> unit
> > cycling as the warmer air stays at the top We do thise primarily to
> reduce
> > the current draw on the batteries. Once we started using a fan, we can
> > run it on medium in July and keep the compressor cycling down to a
> minimum.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > The previous owner punctured the original condenser with an ice pick.
> > When
> > > he replaced it, I believe several things went wrong. The new condenser
> > > came
> > > pre-charged with r134a. We have vacuumed the system down for 12 hours
> or
> > > more, so it should no longer be contaminated. We believe that
> something
> > is
> > > blocking one of the very small capillaries in the condenser. After
> > > speaking
> > > with Dometic about all this, they recommended replacing the condenser
> > > again.
> > > I just wasn't sure that that the Cold Machine was big enough for that
> > size
> > > ice box.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of jennifer
> > > ferguson
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:02 PM
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > Which type of freon do you have. Your old unit may not be compatible
> with
> > > new condenser. I just purchased a new condenser and compressor from
> adler
> > > barbour. If I were to do it again I might look at other brands. A month
> > > after the new installation the new unit stopped freezing. Upon
> inspection
> > > of
> > > the connections I found a leak at the fittings. They were very tight
> and
> > > tightening more did not help. I removed the connections applied some
> stop
> > > leak sealant and with more tightening It has held so for (2months).
> > > Recharged unit with freon. I find that the new unit uses about 1 amp
> per
> > > hr
> > > more than the old one. MichaelNauti Clew 169
> > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> > > Subject: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:06 PM
> > >
> > > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > > refrigerator. The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> > Barbour
> > > Cold Machine. Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should
> go
> > > ahead and replace the compressor, too. Does this seem to be a big
> enough
> > > unit according to general concensus?
> > >
> > > Chris Descher
> > > #500
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Chris Burti Farmville, NC
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:19:44 -0800
> > From: Stan <ola7442000 at gmail.com>
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > Message-ID:
> > <4f04420912310719m42c4187ak686677fd259cdaff at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > In the middle of the Mojave desert on Lake Mead where the summer temps
> run
> > 100-125F the stock unit has performed just fine.
> >
> > Stan
> > "Our Little Amusement" #744
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > > refrigerator. The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> > Barbour
> > > Cold Machine. Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should
> go
> > > ahead and replace the compressor, too. Does this seem to be a big
> enough
> > > unit according to general concensus?
> > >
> > > Chris Descher
> > > #500
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stan
> > "Our Little Amusement"
> > C320 #744
> > N 36 01' 33"
> > W 114 46' 08"
> > __/)__/)__/)__/)__
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:36:15 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Bob Zook <bzook60 at yahoo.com>
> > To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> > Subject: [C320-list] A Great New Year!
> > Message-ID: <951471.56296.qm at web112807.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Greetings Group, this promises to be an exciting new year for my wife and
> > I.. Today we have closed on our 1998 Catalina 320 hull # 489. We have
> been
> > reading the posts on this website for some time and have found them very
> > helpful. This is a great owners group and we look forward to being a part
> of
> > it..?Our MaryKate will be based in Traverse City, Mi.
> > ?
> > A Happy New Year to all,
> > ?
> > Bob and Carolyn Zook
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:38:57 -0500
> > From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] A Great New Year!
> > Message-ID:
> > <79721a9c0912311038m43837dc2y44fdb07c04d69a40 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Congratulations! Welcome Aboard and don't forget if you go with Boat US
> > there is discount on thier membership by virtue of being a C-320 IAA
> > member.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Bob Zook <bzook60 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings Group, this promises to be an exciting new year for my wife
> and
> > > I.. Today we have closed on our 1998 Catalina 320 hull # 489. We have
> > been
> > > reading the posts on this website for some time and have found them
> very
> > > helpful. This is a great owners group and we look forward to being a
> part
> > of
> > > it.. Our MaryKate will be based in Traverse City, Mi.
> > >
> > > A Happy New Year to all,
> > >
> > > Bob and Carolyn Zook
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Chris Burti Farmville, NC
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:40:11 -0500
> > From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > Message-ID:
> > <79721a9c0912311040s42cf2a76u12318caeb2c1f34d at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > That is pert near where I was born! Edwards AFB.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Stan <ola7442000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Chris,
> > >
> > > In the middle of the Mojave desert on Lake Mead where the summer temps
> > run
> > > 100-125F the stock unit has performed just fine.
> > >
> > > Stan
> > > "Our Little Amusement" #744
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > > > refrigerator. The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> > > Barbour
> > > > Cold Machine. Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should
> > go
> > > > ahead and replace the compressor, too. Does this seem to be a big
> > enough
> > > > unit according to general concensus?
> > > >
> > > > Chris Descher
> > > > #500
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stan
> > > "Our Little Amusement"
> > > C320 #744
> > > N 36 01' 33"
> > > W 114 46' 08"
> > > __/)__/)__/)__/)__
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Chris Burti Farmville, NC
> >
> >
> > End of C320-list Digest, Vol 662, Issue 1
> > *****************************************
> >
>
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