[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 662, Issue 1

[Thomas Page]

This is a question for members who live in Florida.  I am moving to Florida
later this year and I was curious what you do during hurricane season and
during an actual hurricane.  If a hurricane is approaching do you have your
boat hauled out?  I head that the safest is put your boat on a storm rated
mooring, is that true?   I am looking forward to sailing year round.

Tom Page
"jeannette III"

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>   1. REFRIGERATION UNIT (Chris Descher)
>   2. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (jennifer ferguson)
>   3. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (Chris Burti)
>   4. Lake Macatawa (Chuck and Kathy)
>   5. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (Chris Descher)
>   6. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (Chris Burti)
>   7. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (dwdunn at aol.com)
>   8. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (Stan)
>   9. A Great New Year! (Bob Zook)
>  10. Re: A Great New Year! (Chris Burti)
>  11. Re: REFRIGERATION UNIT (Chris Burti)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:06:19 -0600
> From: "Chris Descher" <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> Message-ID: <AKEBKJHDOPMEGDILPFCEIEPGDOAA.cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> refrigerator.  The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler Barbour
> Cold Machine.  Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should go
> ahead and replace the compressor, too.  Does this seem to be a big enough
> unit according to general concensus?
>
> Chris Descher
> #500
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:02:13 -0800 (PST)
> From: jennifer ferguson <coralman at bellsouth.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> Message-ID: <138673.41409.qm at web180310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Chris
> Which type of freon do you have. Your old unit may not be compatible with
> new condenser. I just purchased a new condenser and compressor from adler
> barbour. If I were to do it again I might look at other brands. A month
> after the new installation the new unit stopped freezing. Upon inspection of
> the connections I found a leak at the fittings. They were very tight and
> tightening more did not help. I removed the connections applied some stop
> leak sealant and with more tightening It has held so for (2months).
> Recharged unit with freon. ?I find that the new unit uses about 1 amp per hr
> more than the old one.?MichaelNauti Clew 169
> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com> wrote:
>
> From: Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:06 PM
>
> It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> refrigerator.? The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler Barbour
> Cold Machine.? Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should go
> ahead and replace the compressor, too.? Does this seem to be a big enough
> unit according to general concensus?
>
> Chris Descher
> #500
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:17:00 -0500
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> Message-ID:
>        <79721a9c0912301817j6173c49andd1ae990267e82e2 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> there was an issue with the control module on your vintage unit...check
> that
> first...
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> >wrote:
>
> > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > refrigerator.  The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> Barbour
> > Cold Machine.  Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should go
> > ahead and replace the compressor, too.  Does this seem to be a big enough
> > unit according to general concensus?
> >
> > Chris Descher
> > #500
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Chris Burti Farmville, NC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:46:59 -0500
> From: "Chuck and Kathy" <katchu at chartermi.net>
> To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Lake Macatawa
> Message-ID: <851C6F2485BA48958A14703C9CE49051 at Mastercomp>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi Alan - I also keep my boat in Holland Michigan and would be glad to help
> when boating weather returns.
>
> Chuck Mueller
> Northwind
> 2000 C320 #676
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:18:27 -0500
> From: Alan Goodman <goodmanalanlee at hotmail.com>
> To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] OceanAir Screens and Shades
> Message-ID: <SNT112-W22B730C5F37E3E9C2E9D51C07A0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
>
>
> I'd like to install OceanAir, or something similar, screens on the two deck
> hatches of my new-to-me 1994 C320.  The boat is in winter storage right now
> (Holland MI area, Lake Macatawa), about 150 miles from my home (Detroit).
> Can anyone provide thoughts as to the OceanAir product, versus other
> manufacturers, or versus other solutions such as Velcro screens?  Also,
> what
> size are the two hatches (example: 12 inch by 12 inch?) so that I can
> select
> the proper screen kit size?  By the way, any members nearby in Lake
> Michigan?
>
> Alan Goodman
> (more than) Half Way There
> 1994 C320
> Holland, MI
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:37:03 -0600
> From: "Chris Descher" <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> Message-ID: <AKEBKJHDOPMEGDILPFCEMEPIDOAA.cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> The previous owner punctured the original condenser with an ice pick.  When
> he replaced it, I believe several things went wrong.  The new condenser
> came
> pre-charged with r134a.  We have vacuumed the system down for 12 hours or
> more, so it should no longer be contaminated.  We believe that something is
> blocking one of the very small capillaries in the condenser.  After
> speaking
> with Dometic about all this, they recommended replacing the condenser
> again.
> I just wasn't sure that that the Cold Machine was big enough for that size
> ice box.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of jennifer
> ferguson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:02 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
>
>
> Chris
> Which type of freon do you have. Your old unit may not be compatible with
> new condenser. I just purchased a new condenser and compressor from adler
> barbour. If I were to do it again I might look at other brands. A month
> after the new installation the new unit stopped freezing. Upon inspection
> of
> the connections I found a leak at the fittings. They were very tight and
> tightening more did not help. I removed the connections applied some stop
> leak sealant and with more tightening It has held so for (2months).
> Recharged unit with freon. ?I find that the new unit uses about 1 amp per
> hr
> more than the old one.?MichaelNauti Clew 169
> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com> wrote:
>
> From: Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:06 PM
>
> It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> refrigerator.? The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler Barbour
> Cold Machine.? Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should go
> ahead and replace the compressor, too.? Does this seem to be a big enough
> unit according to general concensus?
>
> Chris Descher
> #500
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:55:52 -0500
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> Message-ID:
>        <79721a9c0912310555l4037f62t34309ead03ce2331 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> the OEM unit works pretty good for us in a fairly hot climate zone. We add
> a
> block of ice at the bottom on long cruises, but the biggest efficiency
> enhancement is a small fan to circulate the cold air. Otherwise the very
> cold air layers at the bottom of the box and the thermostat keeps the unit
> cycling as the warmer air stays at the top We do thise primarily to reduce
> the current draw on the batteries. Once we started using a fan, we can
> run it on medium in July and keep the compressor cycling down to a minimum.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> >wrote:
>
> > The previous owner punctured the original condenser with an ice pick.
>  When
> > he replaced it, I believe several things went wrong.  The new condenser
> > came
> > pre-charged with r134a.  We have vacuumed the system down for 12 hours or
> > more, so it should no longer be contaminated.  We believe that something
> is
> > blocking one of the very small capillaries in the condenser.  After
> > speaking
> > with Dometic about all this, they recommended replacing the condenser
> > again.
> > I just wasn't sure that that the Cold Machine was big enough for that
> size
> > ice box.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of jennifer
> > ferguson
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:02 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> >
> >
> > Chris
> > Which type of freon do you have. Your old unit may not be compatible with
> > new condenser. I just purchased a new condenser and compressor from adler
> > barbour. If I were to do it again I might look at other brands. A month
> > after the new installation the new unit stopped freezing. Upon inspection
> > of
> > the connections I found a leak at the fittings. They were very tight and
> > tightening more did not help. I removed the connections applied some stop
> > leak sealant and with more tightening It has held so for (2months).
> > Recharged unit with freon.  I find that the new unit uses about 1 amp per
> > hr
> > more than the old one. MichaelNauti Clew 169
> > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:06 PM
> >
> > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > refrigerator.  The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> Barbour
> > Cold Machine.  Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should go
> > ahead and replace the compressor, too.  Does this seem to be a big enough
> > unit according to general concensus?
> >
> > Chris Descher
> > #500
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Chris Burti Farmville, NC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:01:47 +0000
> From: dwdunn at aol.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> Message-ID:
>
>  <639342346-1262271791-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-417887473- at bda932.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone with SprintSpeed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:55:52
> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
>
> the OEM unit works pretty good for us in a fairly hot climate zone. We add
> a
> block of ice at the bottom on long cruises, but the biggest efficiency
> enhancement is a small fan to circulate the cold air. Otherwise the very
> cold air layers at the bottom of the box and the thermostat keeps the unit
> cycling as the warmer air stays at the top We do thise primarily to reduce
> the current draw on the batteries. Once we started using a fan, we can
> run it on medium in July and keep the compressor cycling down to a minimum.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> >wrote:
>
> > The previous owner punctured the original condenser with an ice pick.
>  When
> > he replaced it, I believe several things went wrong.  The new condenser
> > came
> > pre-charged with r134a.  We have vacuumed the system down for 12 hours or
> > more, so it should no longer be contaminated.  We believe that something
> is
> > blocking one of the very small capillaries in the condenser.  After
> > speaking
> > with Dometic about all this, they recommended replacing the condenser
> > again.
> > I just wasn't sure that that the Cold Machine was big enough for that
> size
> > ice box.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of jennifer
> > ferguson
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:02 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> >
> >
> > Chris
> > Which type of freon do you have. Your old unit may not be compatible with
> > new condenser. I just purchased a new condenser and compressor from adler
> > barbour. If I were to do it again I might look at other brands. A month
> > after the new installation the new unit stopped freezing. Upon inspection
> > of
> > the connections I found a leak at the fittings. They were very tight and
> > tightening more did not help. I removed the connections applied some stop
> > leak sealant and with more tightening It has held so for (2months).
> > Recharged unit with freon.  I find that the new unit uses about 1 amp per
> > hr
> > more than the old one. MichaelNauti Clew 169
> > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:06 PM
> >
> > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > refrigerator.  The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> Barbour
> > Cold Machine.  Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should go
> > ahead and replace the compressor, too.  Does this seem to be a big enough
> > unit according to general concensus?
> >
> > Chris Descher
> > #500
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Chris Burti Farmville, NC
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:19:44 -0800
> From: Stan <ola7442000 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> Message-ID:
>        <4f04420912310719m42c4187ak686677fd259cdaff at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> In the middle of the Mojave desert on Lake Mead where the summer temps run
> 100-125F the stock unit has performed just fine.
>
> Stan
> "Our Little Amusement" #744
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> >wrote:
>
> > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > refrigerator.  The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> Barbour
> > Cold Machine.  Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should go
> > ahead and replace the compressor, too.  Does this seem to be a big enough
> > unit according to general concensus?
> >
> > Chris Descher
> > #500
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Stan
> "Our Little Amusement"
> C320  #744
> N 36 01' 33"
> W 114 46' 08"
> __/)__/)__/)__/)__
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:36:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: Bob Zook <bzook60 at yahoo.com>
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] A Great New Year!
> Message-ID: <951471.56296.qm at web112807.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Greetings Group, this promises to be an exciting new year for my wife and
> I.. Today we have closed on our 1998 Catalina 320 hull # 489. We have been
> reading the posts on this website for some time and have found them very
> helpful. This is a great owners group and we look forward to being a part of
> it..?Our MaryKate will be based in Traverse City, Mi.
> ?
> A Happy New Year to all,
> ?
> Bob and Carolyn Zook
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:38:57 -0500
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] A Great New Year!
> Message-ID:
>        <79721a9c0912311038m43837dc2y44fdb07c04d69a40 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Congratulations! Welcome Aboard and don't forget if you go with Boat US
> there is discount on thier membership by virtue of being a C-320 IAA
> member.
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Bob Zook <bzook60 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Greetings Group, this promises to be an exciting new year for my wife and
> > I.. Today we have closed on our 1998 Catalina 320 hull # 489. We have
> been
> > reading the posts on this website for some time and have found them very
> > helpful. This is a great owners group and we look forward to being a part
> of
> > it.. Our MaryKate will be based in Traverse City, Mi.
> >
> > A Happy New Year to all,
> >
> > Bob and Carolyn Zook
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Chris Burti Farmville, NC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:40:11 -0500
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] REFRIGERATION UNIT
> Message-ID:
>        <79721a9c0912311040s42cf2a76u12318caeb2c1f34d at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> That is pert near where I was born! Edwards AFB.
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Stan <ola7442000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > In the middle of the Mojave desert on Lake Mead where the summer temps
> run
> > 100-125F the stock unit has performed just fine.
> >
> > Stan
> > "Our Little Amusement" #744
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > It looks like I'm going to have to replace the condensing unit for my
> > > refrigerator.  The compressor is probably fine, and it's the Adler
> > Barbour
> > > Cold Machine.  Before doing this, I want to consider whether I should
> go
> > > ahead and replace the compressor, too.  Does this seem to be a big
> enough
> > > unit according to general concensus?
> > >
> > > Chris Descher
> > > #500
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stan
> > "Our Little Amusement"
> > C320  #744
> > N 36 01' 33"
> > W 114 46' 08"
> > __/)__/)__/)__/)__
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Chris Burti Farmville, NC
>
>
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