[C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
David Gleason
djgleason1 at juno.com
Thu Feb 5 16:54:56 PST 2009
If you follow the cable down to the engine compartment you will see that
all it does is close the throttle setting. There is NO compression
release on the Perkins. I have tried starting with the T handle in the
up position and have not noticed any difference in cranking speed.
Dave Gleason
Proud Mary, #150
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:49:57 -0800 "Kirk McCullough"
<kirk.mccullough at telus.net> writes:
> Have you ever tried to start the Perkins with the handle up? The
> engines
> turns over very easily, almost like there is no compression. Of
> course it
> won't start, but it sure turns over quickly.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Pat
> Moriarty
> Sent: 03 February 2009 05:20
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
>
>
> The engine shut off cuts off the fuel at the injector pump and has
> nothing to do with compression or the engine. On diesel engines with
>
> an electric cutoff it does the same thing, stops the fuel flow.
> Since
> they have no ignition system all a diesel needs is air and fuel.
>
> Pat #130
>
>
> At 08:26 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote:
> >I don' t have and engine kill switch, just the T handle which
> >releases the cylinder compression to stop the engine.
> >
> >Kirk
> >#124
> >----- Original Message ----- From: <bruceheyman at cox.net>
> >To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:55 AM
> >Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
> >
> >
> >>What kill switch? Most diesels require you block the air or the
> >>fuel. Ours blocks the fuel. We will have to come up with a servo
>
> >>that can move the same lever arm as the red t-handled kill on our
>
> >>engine pods. Am I missing an angle?
> >>Bruce
> >>Somerset 671 SoCal
> >>Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Dean Vermeire <dean at vermeire.us>
> >>
> >>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:46:16
> >>To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
> >>
> >>
> >>I'm thinking you'd probably want to wire the new kill switch in
> series
> >>with the existing, not in parallel.
> >>
> >>John Frost wrote:
> >>>I think the engine kill part will be pretty straightforward by
> just
> adding,
> >>>in parallel with my engine stop switch, a new standard kill
> switch that
> the
> >>>unit was designed to trip. Turning off the autopilot would also
> be easy
> >>>(using the same kill switch output) but not too effective as
> well
> balanced
> >>>as my helm is. The command to tack (without releasing the jib)
> might put
> me
> >>>in a semi heave-to position that at least wouldn't plow across
> the lake
> at 5
> >>>kts. Any thoughts on that approach?
> >>>
> >>>John Frost
> >>>2007 C320 MKII, Hull # 1118
> >>>Lake Guntersville, AL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>>[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew
> >>>Santangelo
> >>>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:54 AM
> >>>To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
> >>>
> >>>Hello All,
> >>>
> >>>I can see the little buzzer thing being a great idea. I seem to
> >>>recall a couple years back someone falling overboard on Lake
> Huron and
> >>>the person below was sleeping - never heard a thing. The
> individual
> >>>who fell overboard did drown.
> >>>
> >>>I can see the engine kill switch too - have it on my little J22
> and
> >>>out board is shut off if I go in. Of course I need the lanyard
> hooked
> >>>to me! And no, I have not fallen in yet...
> >>>
> >>>BUT falling in with the sails up is a very complicated matter.
> For
> >>>such a set up I see the need for all these added control lines to
> the
> >>>sails tied to the system. Rope clutch releases, winch releases,
> >>>automatic tacking, maybe a sail dropping system. Too
> complicated, too
> >>>many lines and probably unworkable with the current boat
> configuration.
> >>>
> >>>To keep it easy with sails if you are worried about failing into
> the
> >>>water and having the sailboat go bye bye under sail is to get a
> boat
> >>>like the Nonsuch. It has one BIG main sail and no head sail.
> >>>Performance to windward is bad, however the rigging is very
> simple. A
> >>>system could be easily rigged to either release the sheet (a
> little
> >>>complicated) or drop the mainsail (fairly easy).
> >>>
> >>>My two pennies worth...
> >>>
> >>>Best Regards,
> >>>Andrew
> >>>C320 "Dawn Treader"
> >>>#333
> >>>
> >>>P.S. - I leave next week from New Mexico to Holland, Michigan to
> check
> >>>on my baby and do the final prep for it to be shipped to
> California.
> >>>Right now I hear there is 4' of snow around it. :-(
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Jan 30, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Larry Frank wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>John,
> >>>>
> >>>>I have seen these devices advertised and wondered if they could
> work
> >>>>on a
> >>>>sailboat including the autopilot. I will be anxiously awaiting
> your
> >>>>report.
> >>>>
> >>>>Larry
> >>>>WindSwept C320 #246
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>>>[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> John
> >>>>Frost
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:19 PM
> >>>>To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>>Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
> >>>>
> >>>>For Christmas I bought myself a gizmo that sets off an alarm if
> you
> >>>>fall
> >>>>overboard wearing the little dongle. I've tried it and it seems
> to
> >>>>work
> >>>>nicely. I can traverse the boat freely but if it goes in the
> water
> >>>>it wails.
> >>>>We often motor for several miles with my Captain down below
> fixing
> >>>>food etc.
> >>>>She has no idea what I am up to on deck. My hope is she will
> know it
> >>>>if I
> >>>>disappear. My other hope is she will look kindly on the
> desirability
> >>>>of
> >>>>coming back to get me.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now to the interesting part. This device also has a little
> solenoid
> >>>>meant to
> >>>>be hooked to the lanyard kill switch on small power boats. It
> will
> >>>>flip that
> >>>>switch to stop the motor. I hope over the summer to modify my
> engine
> >>>>stop
> >>>>button to shut my motor down, and maybe even turn off (or tack
> to
> >>>>heave to)
> >>>>the autopilot if under sail. I'll let you know if it works.
> >>>>
> >>>>John
> >>>>2007 C320 MKII, Hull # 1118
> >>>>Lake Guntersville, AL
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>>>[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> Bill
> >>>>Culbertson
> >>>>Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:16 PM
> >>>>To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>>Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
> >>>>
> >>>>The issue Orlando raised and others have commented on about the
> boat
> >>>>moving
> >>>>vs not moving is the one I've found no solution for. I've
> always
> >>>>figured
> >>>>that getting the boat stopped is the enabler of the other tools
> for
> >>>>getting
> >>>>yourself back on board.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you're moving, it's either under power or under sail. I've
> always
> >>>>guessed that if under sail, the key would be getting the
> autopilot
> >>>>disengaged (if enabled) to round up (wouldn't work on a run).
> If
> >>>>under
> >>>>power, I figure the key is getting into neutral and ideally
> idle
> >>>>speed with
> >>>>neutral being required and idle speed being desirable.
> >>>>
> >>>>If there are gadgets on the market to address either of these
> two
> >>>>situations, I've not found them. I'm kind of amazed that
> nothing
> >>>>commercial
> >>>>seems to exist.
> >>>>
> >>>> -bill
> >>>> Harmony #859
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>________________________________
> >>>>From: "Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com"
> <Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> >>>>
> >>>>To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>>Cc: C320-List at Catalina320.com;
> c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>>>Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:39:52 AM
> >>>>Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm assuming all of this talk about grabbing a ladder while
> single
> >>>>handing
> >>>>presupposes that the boat will be standing still and not moving
> either
> >>>>under sail or power... :)
> >>>>
> >>>>If you're sailing alone and fall overboard, good luck in trying
> to
> >>>>lower
> >>>>any ladder..
> >>>>
> >>>>My strategery has always been to stay IN the boat.. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>OD
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> David J Gleason
> >>>> <djgleason1 at juno
> >>>> .com>
> >>>>To
> >>>> Sent by: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>> c320-list-
> >>>>bounce cc
> >>>> s at lists.catalina C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>> 320.com
> >>>>Subject
> >>>> Re: [C320-list] C320
> MKII
> >>>>ladder &
> >>>> safety
> >>>> 01/26/2009 08:14
> >>>> AM
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please respond
> >>>> to
> >>>> C320-List at Catali
> >>>> na320.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Wayne:
> >>>>
> >>>>I have done some single handed sailing and the thought of not
> being
> >>>>able
> >>>>to lower the ladder from the water has always bothered me. I
> have
> >>>>thought of tying the ladder up with yarn that could be broken
> with a
> >>>>good
> >>>>pull. However I then need to run a line across the access
> opening
> >>>>so as
> >>>>not to fall backward out of the cockpit.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you could describe the arrangement you use, I would
> appreciate it.
> >>>>Photos would be a great help.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Dave Gleason
> >>>>Proud Mary, #150
> >>>>
> >>>>On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:04:05 -0800 (PST) Wayne Strickland
> >>>><nadowayne at yahoo.com> writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Ladder deployment if in the water and not having a mate
> onboard, was
> >>>>>a concern of mine. I attached lines to the latches and to the
> >>>>>ladder and they can easily be reached while in the water. The
> lines
> >>>>>release the ladder and pull it down to the water.
> >>>>>Safety is a good thing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Wayne Strickland
> >>>>>Wayne's World 594
> >>>>>Coronado, CA.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Jan 23, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Sail0983 at aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>While I don't like it I think the advantage is that it can be
> >>>>>deployed by
> >>>>>someone in the water.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Dave Marchant
> >>>>>Illumination #983
> >>>>>Solomons, MD
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>In a message dated 1/23/2009 8:23:32 A.M. Eastern Standard
> Time,
> >>>>>bcampbell at valp.net writes:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>What's up with the cheap stern boarding ladder on the new
> boats?
> >>>>>Even the
> >>>>>C375 has it and they don't seam to be very user friendly.
> >>>>>
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