[C320-list] Garhauer Genoa Cars

Wed Jan 21 17:45:24 PST 2009

Andrew, enjoy San Francisco (but then how can you not) Maybe we can get you to host a regatta in a couple of years.  

Pat

--- On Wed, 1/21/09, Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com> wrote:

> From: Andrew Santangelo <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Garhauer Genoa Cars
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 12:10 AM
> Hello Pat,
> 
> We only reefed in heavy winds - over 20 knots true - I am a
> chicken, LOL.  It worked for us though - took 2nd in one
> race.  Seems most of the races in Lake Michigan are calm
> though - grrrrr.  I know that will not be the case in SFO.
> PLENTY OF AIR THERE!
> 
> Yes, accidental jibes can be very dangerous. And I have
> been very lucky; one experiences a lot in 24 years of
> sailing.
> 
> I can see racing rules requiring a preventer.  We do not
> require them in our club, but I can see it.
> 
> Thank-you for the comment about my success in racing.  I
> love cruising, but I did get the racing bug.  The
> modifications to the boat did help, but practice, experience
> and learning the boat - especially learning the boat is key
> to winning.
> 
> Which leads me to the comment that I always look at big
> boats - certainly did when I had a little, little boat!  But
> now that I have the C320 it seems to be the perfect balance
> of the total boat!  Cruising, racing, relaxing, comfort -
> roomy enough, but not too big to handle.  And very
> responsive.  And the costs are still manageable on a boat
> this size.  But I do not need to sell everyone here on how
> great this boat is! But it is now tough to change boats - I
> know this one too well!
> 
> BTW - that little, little boat - a J22, my very first
> sailboat. I found it for sale and bought it back!  Now we
> will soon be sailing it here in New Mexico (plus summers in
> Michigan).  It was a TOTAL time warp seeing it.  I nearly
> cried the when I saw it again.  It brought back all the
> memories of learning how to sail and my initial adventures. 
> The J22 was an old love - who looked great and timeless!
> 
> Lastly - once Dawn Treader is in SFO I will be racing
> there.  Yes looking for crew.  Stay tuned.......
> 
> Best Regards,
> Andrew
> C320 "Dawn Treader"
> #333
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 20, 2009, at 1:08 PM, pat reynolds wrote:
> 
> > Andrew,  why a reefed main on downwind legs?  When
> racing it is easy to run a line hooked to the boom to a
> forward cleat since you can't always trust that the
> helmsperson will not be distracted.  All it takes is a
> second of inattentiveness.  I have seen a crew member hit
> with a mere glancing blow and it was not pretty.  Also I
> happened to be standing in the companionway when the
> traveler flew over and almost removed my ear.  Another crew
> member on a Morgan 38 lost a finger in a traveler.
> > 
> > Our racing rules require the use of a preventer on
> downwind legs.  When jibing the line is simply removed from
> the forward cleat by the bowman.  I know from local
> knowledge that you are an excellant racer.  I think that
> with 24 years without an accidental jibe you are also a
> extremely lucky one.
> > 
> > Good luck in San Francisco and keep your head down out
> there.
> > 
> > Pat R.
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Andrew Santangelo
> <andrew_santangelo at mac.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Andrew Santangelo
> <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Garhauer Genoa Cars
> >> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 1:17 PM
> >> Gary,
> >> 
> >> Get the Garhauer Genoa cars.  They will make a
> huge
> >> difference in performance, racing or cruising. 
> There is no
> >> line clutter issues either.
> >> 
> >> Also you will adjust the cars even with the sail
> fully
> >> unfurled.  The adjustments are made based on wind
> conditions
> >> and to a degree the trim of the Main Sail.  It is
> not for
> >> just a partially furled head sail.
> >> 
> >> Main Sail Preventer -
> >> 
> >> Well I use my crew for that, LOL.  We call them
> the human
> >> preventers!  To be honest when racing with no
> spinnaker and
> >> the winds are light to moderate and we are doing
> >> wing-on-wing we have never had a problem.  In
> heavier air
> >> the sails are adjusted accordingly - when cruising
> we do not
> >> do a wing-on-wing and never had an accidental
> jibe; for
> >> races we have a reefed main and unfurl the
> headsail for the
> >> down wind legs and go wing-on-wing, but I never
> had a
> >> problem in 24 years of sailing.
> >> 
> >> That said though if you are short handed and/or do
> lots of
> >> down wind sailing a preventer might be the option
> for you.
> >> 
> >> Andrew
> >> C320 "Dawn Treader"
> >> #333
> >> 
> >> On Jan 20, 2009, at 12:06 PM, dmoores at cogeco.ca
> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I assume you are a cruiser and sometimes like
> to sail
> >> with a
> >>> partially-furled jib
> >>> then the ajustable cars will really help trim
> the sail
> >> nicely no matter
> >>> how much is furled.  If you don't mind
> crappy sail
> >> trim then I'm not sure I
> >>> would bother.
> >>> 
> >>> Dave M
> >>> 
> >>> Original Message:
> >>> -----------------
> >>> From:  mike at brycesystems.com
> >>> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:36:19 +0000
> >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Garhauer Genoa Cars
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Get the cars if you always seek to optimize
> trim
> >>> ....and to the fella with engine fuel problem
> with
> >> loss of RPMs: same isse
> >>> on my J105's Yanmar. Turned out to be fuel
> shutoff
> >> valve on the tank was
> >>> letting air in heavy seas. If I recall the 320
> has a
> >> shutoff.
> >>> Mike Lachance (yup still lurking)
> >>> ------Original Message------
> >>> From: Ragtime Magnuson's
> >>> Sender:
> c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> >>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> >>> ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>> Sent: Jan 20, 2009 12:51
> >>> Subject: [C320-list] Garhauer Genoa Cars
> >>> 
> >>> I am headed to the Strictly Sail show in
> Chicago and
> >> flirting  with adding
> >>> adjustable Genoa Car hardware.  Any experience
> and
> >> suggestions?  Are they
> >>> worth the investment if I don't race? Do
> they just
> >> clutter the deck with
> >>> more line?  I also need to add a boom
> preventer. Is
> >> there an "out of the
> >>> box" suggestion or just build my own? I
> managed a
> >> nasty Jibe off Isle
> >>> Royale this summer, and now better understand
> the
> >> value.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Gary
> >>> Time A Weigh # 205
> >>> 
> >>> 
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> >>> 
> >>> 
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