[C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
Robert E. Sloat
resloat at comcast.net
Fri Jan 30 07:43:30 PST 2009
Check out Raymarine's Life Tag system for MOB warnings. It also hooks up to
your chart plotter. It seems pricey, but little cost for the benefits of
the poor MOB. It also works for WOB.
Bob Sloat
Savannah Hull 894
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Santangelo" <andrew_santangelo at mac.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
> Hello All,
>
> I can see the little buzzer thing being a great idea. I seem to recall a
> couple years back someone falling overboard on Lake Huron and the person
> below was sleeping - never heard a thing. The individual who fell
> overboard did drown.
>
> I can see the engine kill switch too - have it on my little J22 and out
> board is shut off if I go in. Of course I need the lanyard hooked to me!
> And no, I have not fallen in yet...
>
> BUT falling in with the sails up is a very complicated matter. For such
> a set up I see the need for all these added control lines to the sails
> tied to the system. Rope clutch releases, winch releases, automatic
> tacking, maybe a sail dropping system. Too complicated, too many lines
> and probably unworkable with the current boat configuration.
>
> To keep it easy with sails if you are worried about failing into the
> water and having the sailboat go bye bye under sail is to get a boat like
> the Nonsuch. It has one BIG main sail and no head sail. Performance to
> windward is bad, however the rigging is very simple. A system could be
> easily rigged to either release the sheet (a little complicated) or drop
> the mainsail (fairly easy).
>
> My two pennies worth...
>
> Best Regards,
> Andrew
> C320 "Dawn Treader"
> #333
>
> P.S. - I leave next week from New Mexico to Holland, Michigan to check on
> my baby and do the final prep for it to be shipped to California. Right
> now I hear there is 4' of snow around it. :-(
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Larry Frank wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I have seen these devices advertised and wondered if they could work on
>> a
>> sailboat including the autopilot. I will be anxiously awaiting your
>> report.
>>
>> Larry
>> WindSwept C320 #246
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of John Frost
>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:19 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
>>
>> For Christmas I bought myself a gizmo that sets off an alarm if you fall
>> overboard wearing the little dongle. I've tried it and it seems to work
>> nicely. I can traverse the boat freely but if it goes in the water it
>> wails.
>> We often motor for several miles with my Captain down below fixing food
>> etc.
>> She has no idea what I am up to on deck. My hope is she will know it if
>> I
>> disappear. My other hope is she will look kindly on the desirability of
>> coming back to get me.
>>
>> Now to the interesting part. This device also has a little solenoid
>> meant to
>> be hooked to the lanyard kill switch on small power boats. It will flip
>> that
>> switch to stop the motor. I hope over the summer to modify my engine
>> stop
>> button to shut my motor down, and maybe even turn off (or tack to heave
>> to)
>> the autopilot if under sail. I'll let you know if it works.
>>
>> John
>> 2007 C320 MKII, Hull # 1118
>> Lake Guntersville, AL
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Culbertson
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:16 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
>>
>> The issue Orlando raised and others have commented on about the boat
>> moving
>> vs not moving is the one I've found no solution for. I've always
>> figured
>> that getting the boat stopped is the enabler of the other tools for
>> getting
>> yourself back on board.
>>
>> If you're moving, it's either under power or under sail. I've always
>> guessed that if under sail, the key would be getting the autopilot
>> disengaged (if enabled) to round up (wouldn't work on a run). If under
>> power, I figure the key is getting into neutral and ideally idle speed
>> with
>> neutral being required and idle speed being desirable.
>>
>> If there are gadgets on the market to address either of these two
>> situations, I've not found them. I'm kind of amazed that nothing
>> commercial
>> seems to exist.
>>
>> -bill
>> Harmony #859
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com" <Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
>> >
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Cc: C320-List at Catalina320.com; c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:39:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder & safety
>>
>> I'm assuming all of this talk about grabbing a ladder while single
>> handing
>> presupposes that the boat will be standing still and not moving either
>> under sail or power... :)
>>
>> If you're sailing alone and fall overboard, good luck in trying to lower
>> any ladder..
>>
>> My strategery has always been to stay IN the boat.. :)
>>
>> OD
>>
>>
>>
>> David J Gleason
>> <djgleason1 at juno
>> .com> To
>> Sent by: C320-List at Catalina320.com
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>> Re: [C320-list] C320 MKII ladder &
>> safety
>> 01/26/2009 08:14
>> AM
>>
>>
>> Please respond
>> to
>> C320-List at Catali
>> na320.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne:
>>
>> I have done some single handed sailing and the thought of not being
>> able
>> to lower the ladder from the water has always bothered me. I have
>> thought of tying the ladder up with yarn that could be broken with a
>> good
>> pull. However I then need to run a line across the access opening so as
>> not to fall backward out of the cockpit.
>>
>> If you could describe the arrangement you use, I would appreciate it.
>> Photos would be a great help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dave Gleason
>> Proud Mary, #150
>>
>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:04:05 -0800 (PST) Wayne Strickland
>> <nadowayne at yahoo.com> writes:
>>> Ladder deployment if in the water and not having a mate onboard, was
>>> a concern of mine. I attached lines to the latches and to the
>>> ladder and they can easily be reached while in the water. The lines
>>> release the ladder and pull it down to the water.
>>> Safety is a good thing.
>>>
>>> Wayne Strickland
>>> Wayne's World 594
>>> Coronado, CA.
>>>
>>> On Jan 23, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Sail0983 at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> While I don't like it I think the advantage is that it can be
>>> deployed by
>>> someone in the water.
>>>
>>> Dave Marchant
>>> Illumination #983
>>> Solomons, MD
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 1/23/2009 8:23:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> bcampbell at valp.net writes:
>>>
>>> What's up with the cheap stern boarding ladder on the new boats?
>>> Even the
>>> C375 has it and they don't seam to be very user friendly.
>>>
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