[C320-list] Schaeffer furler mainteance

[Chris Burti]

Big thanks...I am pretty sure the grub screws are ok as I loosened the drum
to adjust the opening for the furling line last year.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com>wrote:

> It is a split drum, and no need to remove the forestay.  You cannot
> adequately flush mine from below with the drum in place, and in fact you
> have to partially disassemble the lower part of the unit in addition to
> removing the drum in order to properly access all of the lower unit
> bearings.  Sure, this is not the best design, but compared to the cost of a
> new unit I'm willing to put up with it.
>
> Detailed instructions are in the installation/owner's manual.  There is a
> copy on the Schaeffer web site although it isn't easy to find.  Here is a
> link:
>
> http://www.furling.com/JibFurlingInstallationInstructions.pdf
>
> [Karl/Jeff, could we get a copy of this on the web site?]
>
> Look at page 25 for maintenance instructions.
>
> I've only done it once, although in theory it should be an annual affair,
> just like the winches.  My recollection is that it took a few hours, a large
> part of which was spent trying to loosen the grub screws that hold the
> "cage" in position around the drum.  These are stainless set into aluminum
> -- never the best setup -- and will want some anti-sieze goop when you
> reinstall.  The rest was pretty easy, but there are quite a few steps, and a
> bunch of parts that could go overboard, so it's not a quick job.  Probably
> could do it faster the second time.
>
> Scott
>
> Chris Burti wrote:
>
>> I have not pulled the drum off, how much time do need to allow for that
>> job
>> and I assume since it is not a split drum that I have to remove the
>> forestay
>> at the stem to do it. We've never put the furler line on a winch, so that
>> should not be an issue.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> It sounds like there is a malfunction in your system.  Mine unfurls
>>> easily,
>>> furls easily and has never jammed in six years of use.  Have you checked
>>> the
>>> bearings, top and bottom?  You really need to remove the drum
>>> periodically
>>> and flush out the bottom ones.  I was amazed at how much sand and crud
>>> came
>>> out the first time I did this.
>>>
>>> It's also possible that you have hidden damage to your forestay, or not
>>> enough forestay tension.  None of them work well with a floppy headstay,
>>> and
>>> it's not that hard to damage the forestay if you or someone else has ever
>>> put the furling line on a winch.  You also need the jib halyard not too
>>> loose (or you get a halyard wrap), and need to be religious about keeping
>>> other halyards, especially the spinnaker halyard, away from the furler
>>> when
>>> not in use.  Cranking the furling line with a winch while a halyard is
>>> binding up high will damage the system for sure.
>>>
>>> Either that or the design went to hell between 1999 and 2001.
>>>
>>> Scott Thompson
>>> Surprise, 653
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Burti wrote:
>>>
>>> Schaefer is OEM with Catalina and has been for some time, it is on our
>>>> 2001.
>>>> If you get one, make sure it is installed by someone who really knows
>>>> what
>>>> they are doing and is experienced with the unit.
>>>>
>>>> As for me...I really dislike it...hate may not be too strong a word...it
>>>> is
>>>> difficult to get it to start to unfurl, it is difficult to furl in any
>>>> wind
>>>> over 5 knots...or anytime the line on the drum gets jammed which is
>>>> often, it is nearly impossible to get the line to feed properly on the
>>>> drum,
>>>> access to the drum screws for adjustment is poor. I have been trying
>>>> every piece of advice or trick anybody has offered me for seven years to
>>>> get
>>>> it to work half as good as my old ReefRite with no success.
>>>>
>>>> As I write this, I am wondering why I don't sell it to some sucker on
>>>> eBay
>>>> with an appropriate disclaimer and just buy another ReefRite. And other
>>>> than
>>>> inertia...I can't come up with a logical reason. I am sure that I am
>>>> doing
>>>> something wrong...overlooking something stupidly obvious...nobody could
>>>> sell
>>>> as many of these units as they have if they all worked as crappy as mine
>>>> does...It  is hugely frustrating...thanks for letting me vent...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:27 AM, <amshd2 at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dick
>>>>
>>>>> ?The OME on my boat is a Hood.? To date none of the riggers I have
>>>>> contacted have recommend a Schaefer.? I will ask .? How does Schaefer
>>>>> compare.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Richard A. Walker <dickwalker at att.net>
>>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>> Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:22 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Roller Fuller Harken vs Profurl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would stick with the Schaefer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> ?
>>>>> Dick and Jauhree Walker
>>>>> 740 Olive Ave.
>>>>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>>>>> 619.435.8986
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>> amshd2 at aol.com
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:16 PM
>>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Roller Fuller Harken vs Profurl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gang
>>>>>
>>>>> ?I am?about to replace my old Hood Roller Furler on my 94 320 and have
>>>>> it
>>>>> leveled down to 2 models
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any experance with a Profurl NCI 32 or the Harken
>>>>> Cruising
>>>>> Unit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been told that the Harken unit is there entry level furler.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony?
>>>>>
>>>>> #30 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Scott Thompson
>>> Surprise, #653
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Scott Thompson
> Surprise, #653
>



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Chris Burti Farmville, NC