[C320-list] Keel Compound and Torgue

Karl Mielenhausen _/) c320 at suddenlink.net
Fri Jul 10 07:39:42 PDT 2009


Pat,

The Tool Loaner program is just one of the benefits for dues-paying  
members of the C320IA.

You can learn more here...
http://www.catalina320.com/filemgmt_data/files/SellSheet.ppt
http://www.catalina320.com/staticpages/index.php?page=_IA_LoanerToolboxForm

You can join the association here...
http://www.catalina320.com/staticpages/index.php?page=_IA_MembershipForm

Regards,
Karl


On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:47:02 -0400, Pat Kenefick  
<pkenefick at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> I have a diver who once per qtr. checks the hull, prop, rudder etc. and  
> cleans it. He noticed that on the leading edge - bottom of the leading  
> edge some damaged material ; as it turns out it is compound material is  
> apparently used to mask flaws and of course is used to seal where the  
> keel meets the hull. As I said, this was on the front leading edge and  
> NOT where the keel meets the hull.
> Has anyone seen this before or knows of Catalina using this compound in  
> that area of the keel and more importantly is it a problem or do I need  
> to pull the boat for immediate repair ?
> Torque - I know that a few weeks ago on this forum a discussion took  
> place regarding keel bolts, proper torque etc. I believe that there was  
> some disagreement on the ft/ lbs ; I also believe that Karl said that  
> there is a torque wrench available to Catalina owners - can you tell us  
> again how to get that wrench ?
> Thanks
> Pat Kenefick
> "Cynthia Gale"
> Hull 833
> Bath, NC
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>>   1. Re: Stern anchor in starboard lazarette (Kirk McCullough)
>>   2. Re: Tachometer Problem (Robert E. Sloat)
>>   3. Re: Stuffing Box GFO size (Peter & Barbara Sheerin)
>>   4. Re: Stuffing Box GFO size (Bruce Stanley)
>>   5. 2009 Regatta and Annual Meeting is CANCELLED.
>>      (Karl Mielenhausen _/))
>>   6. another Tach question (james_delong)
>>   7. Re: another Tach question (JonVez at comcast.net)
>>   8. Re: 2009 Regatta and Annual Meeting is CANCELLED.
>>      (Richard A. Walker)
>>   9. Re: 2009 Regatta and Annual Meeting is CANCELLED.
>>      (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:31:46 -0700
>> From: "Kirk McCullough" <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stern anchor in starboard lazarette
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID: <002a01ca0024$42ace450$c806acf0$@mccullough at telus.net>
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>> I have a very similar 2nd anchor set up stored in the starboard laz  
>> also. It
>> sits directly on the shelf and hasn't moved around in any kind of
>> conditions. Of course I have a tool box, a spare shore power cord and  
>> other
>> items on top of it.
>>
>> Kirk
>> #124
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Hare
>> Sent: 07 July 2009 14:14
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stern anchor in starboard lazarette
>>
>> Why not get a plastic mesh laundry basket to set down there to contain  
>> the
>> rhode?
>>
>> -Jeff
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Mike Paris
>> Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Stern anchor in starboard lazarette
>> Sent: Jul 6, 2009 8:27 PM
>>
>> I'm moving the storage of my 2nd anchor to the starboard lazarette. I've
>> read that a number of you do that now. What are any tricks to storing it
>> there? How do you keep it from sliding around and possibly causing  
>> damage? I
>> have 300' of nylon and 30' of 1/4" chain with a Danforth for this 2nd
>> anchor.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> MikeP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:58:47 -0500
>> From: "Robert E. Sloat" <resloat at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Tachometer Problem
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID: <85950AF19DF1447BA788DA57AF47F3B7 at SloatLaptop>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Jon-After corrosion around the plug was cleaned off, put dielectric  
>> paste on
>> the plastic plugs and the electrical contacts to prevent further  
>> corrosion
>> per the instructions on the Permatex instructions.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Tachometer Problem
>>
>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> One thing you can do to reduce corrosion around the engine is spray a
>>> light
>>> coating of WD-40 over the entire engine (just keep it off the belts)  
>>> and
>>> leave it there until Spring. When recommissioning just wipe the engine
>>> down
>>> and lubricate the moving parts--you'll get a clean engine and keep
>>> corrosion
>>> at bay--
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jon Vez
>>> Solstice #582
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Robert E.
>>> Sloat
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:42 AM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Tachometer Problem
>>>
>>> James-A few years ago I had a problem with the tachometer giving  
>>> strange
>>> readings like yours on my hull 894 (2002) with a Yanmar 3GM30F.  The
>>> problem
>>>
>>> was a little corrosion on the electrical plug connection near the  
>>> magnetic
>>> pickup sensor for the tachometer.  The sensor is located near the  
>>> flywheel
>>> at the top of the bell housing and the connection connects the  
>>> tachometer
>>> to
>>>
>>> the sensor.
>>>
>>> Since your problem seems to go away when the engine heats up it may be  
>>> a
>>> combination of corrosion and moisture in the above electrical plug
>>> connection.
>>>
>>> My solution was to take the electrical plug connection near the  
>>> tachometer
>>> sensor apart and clean it off and plug things back together.  No  
>>> problem
>>> thereafter.  It is interesting that my boat was commissioned new in  
>>> 2002
>>> and
>>>
>>> has spent its entire life on fresh water Lake Michigan.  The corrosion  
>>> on
>>> the plug occurred after only 3 seasons.
>>>
>>> Bob Sloat
>>> Savannah Hull 894
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Pett"  
>>> <JPett at JP2ARCHITECTS.COM>
>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:08 PM
>>> Subject: [C320-list] (no subject)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> List - I had an odd tachometer anomaly this weekend and wondered if
>>> anyone can shed some light ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While motoring home I was monitoring the tach - always try to run at
>>> 3100 -3200 rpm which I understand is correct cruising for my motor-
>>> Yanmar engine.  The tach would be reading 3100, and with no noticeable
>>> change in the motor sound / speed etc. would drop to 2800 or so.  Once
>>> or twice it jumped up to like 3400, and I found myself throttling down,
>>> then my speed seemed slow.  ( To make matters worse, my speedo is not
>>> working, and sender is not fouled - guess the sending unit went bad ?  
>>> So
>>> I am relying on gps for speed which jumps around a bit.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does the tach. Run off the alternator ?  Could the problem be a belt ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on why this would happen ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After running for 20-30 minutes, I go the rpms settled at 3100 and
>>> stayed there steady all the way the home - 2 plus hours into Sunday's
>>> non-existent wind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any insights appreciated -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James Pett
>>>
>>> 'Bella Luna' #614
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:00:42 +1000
>> From: "Peter & Barbara Sheerin" <sheerinp at bigpond.net.au>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stuffing Box GFO size
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID: <F8B25E2423524716981D975B0C82C56C at a200K00PC>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Hello Bruce, Bruce did you replace all rings in stuffing box or just add
>> another 1/4" one. Is the process of fitting a new ring fairly straight
>> forward. Thanks for the info. Peter Sheerin Jaraman 1096
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Stanley"  
>> <brucestanley36 at gmail.com>
>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stuffing Box GFO size
>>
>>
>>> thanks Chris
>>> I will go for the 1/4"
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> from
>>> Sydney
>>> Bruce Stanley #1084
>>> ============================
>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Both will work on the older boats and both have been recommended in
>>>> various
>>>> versions of the manual. It has been asserted that Catalina used  
>>>> different
>>>> stuffing boxes at various times, but interestingly enough, when you do
>>>> the
>>>> math on mine, it calls for 7/32" which is not a manufactured size. I
>>>> suspect
>>>> that for various reasons they decided the optimum size is the larger  
>>>> or
>>>> smaller at different points in the run.
>>>>
>>>> It is easy to put in three rings of 3/16", but it compresses on down.  
>>>> To
>>>> put
>>>> in three of 1/4"most find it easier to put in two rings, compress the
>>>> packning and then put in the third. Some only put in two.
>>>>
>>>> It all seems to work. I have three rings of 1/4", a bone dry bilge  
>>>> and a
>>>> cool stuffing box.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Bruce Stanley  
>>>> <brucestanley36 at gmail.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Help
>>>> > I know the size has been on the List ... but .. I seem to have lost  
>>>> it
>>>> :o(
>>>> >
>>>> > Manual says 1/4 inch,
>>>> > however,
>>>> > was 3/16th ever recommended????????
>>>> >
>>>> > thanks
>>>> > Bruce Stanley
>>>> > Sydney Australia C320 #1084
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Burti Farmville, NC
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:51:35 +1000
>> From: Bruce Stanley <brucestanley36 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stuffing Box GFO size
>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>> Message-ID:
>> <9d5459ff0907090051g32fffb56q866fb28d46e6cc at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> hi Peter
>> All rings were replaced.
>> Extractg the old rings requires a special tool. The extracting tool I  
>> bought
>> was poor in quality.
>> Follow the instructs on the package and you will not go wrong.
>>
>> cheers
>> Bruce Stanley
>> Sydney Australia
>> ==========================
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Peter & Barbara Sheerin <
>> sheerinp at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Bruce, Bruce did you replace all rings in stuffing box or just  
>>> add
>>> another 1/4" one. Is the process of fitting a new ring fairly straight
>>> forward. Thanks for the info. Peter Sheerin Jaraman 1096
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Stanley" <
>>> brucestanley36 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stuffing Box GFO size
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  thanks Chris
>>>> I will go for the 1/4"
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> from
>>>> Sydney
>>>> Bruce Stanley #1084
>>>> ============================
>>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Both will work on the older boats and both have been recommended in
>>>>> various
>>>>> versions of the manual. It has been asserted that Catalina used  
>>>>> different
>>>>> stuffing boxes at various times, but interestingly enough, when you  
>>>>> do
>>>>> the
>>>>> math on mine, it calls for 7/32" which is not a manufactured size. I
>>>>> suspect
>>>>> that for various reasons they decided the optimum size is the larger  
>>>>> or
>>>>> smaller at different points in the run.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is easy to put in three rings of 3/16", but it compresses on  
>>>>> down. To
>>>>> put
>>>>> in three of 1/4"most find it easier to put in two rings, compress the
>>>>> packning and then put in the third. Some only put in two.
>>>>>
>>>>> It all seems to work. I have three rings of 1/4", a bone dry bilge  
>>>>> and a
>>>>> cool stuffing box.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Bruce Stanley  
>>>>> <brucestanley36 at gmail.com
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Help
>>>>> > I know the size has been on the List ... but .. I seem to have  
>>>>> lost > it
>>>>> :o(
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Manual says 1/4 inch,
>>>>> > however,
>>>>> > was 3/16th ever recommended????????
>>>>> >
>>>>> > thanks
>>>>> > Bruce Stanley
>>>>> > Sydney Australia C320 #1084
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris Burti Farmville, NC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:09:00 -0400
>> From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/)" <c320 at suddenlink.net>
>> Subject: [C320-list] 2009 Regatta and Annual Meeting is CANCELLED.
>> To: "C320IA Discussion List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID: <op.uwsxha02suzdm5 at presarios4000nx>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes;
>> charset=iso-8859-15
>>
>> Unfortunately, this years Regatta and annual meeting has fallen victim  
>> to
>> the bad economy and it is the recommendation of the organizing committee
>> that it be cancelled.
>>
>> Our thanks go out to those folks who put in so much effort to organize
>> this event. I'm sure it would have been a great success another year.
>>
>> -- Karl Mielenhausen
>> Catalina 320 Hull 690
>> New Bern, NC
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:05:02 -0400
>> From: "james_delong" <james_delong at bellsouth.net>
>> Subject: [C320-list] another Tach question
>> To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID: <002401ca009e$4149f880$3400a8c0 at ownercn1pp2j7a>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> After working in the instrument pod I reinstalled the instrument panel  
>> to discover the needle on the tach fell off!  Any idea how to open the  
>> lens on the tack so I can put the needle back on?
>>
>> Jim #453
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:24:03 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: JonVez at comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] another Tach question
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Message-ID:
>> <5582907.1993551247156643623.JavaMail.root at sz0078a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>>
>>
>> These are sealed devices and cannot be opened--you can get the details  
>> by calling Seaward Products. I just replaced my high temp gauge so I  
>> have recently gone through this with them--  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon Vez
>>
>> Solstice #582
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "james_delong"  
>> <james_delong at bellsouth.net>
>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 10:05:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: [C320-list] another Tach question
>>
>> After working in the instrument pod I reinstalled the instrument panel  
>> to discover the needle on the tach fell off! ?Any idea how to open the  
>> lens on the tack so I can put the needle back on?
>>
>> Jim #453
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:53:47 -0700
>> From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 2009 Regatta and Annual Meeting is CANCELLED.
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID: <79E81D08F4294A9E8017C835D1F5D040 at D53ZJN31>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Orlando thanks for all your planning.  I am sorry that we could not  
>> attend
>> this year.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ?
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Karl
>> Mielenhausen _/)
>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:09 AM
>> To: C320IA Discussion List
>> Subject: [C320-list] 2009 Regatta and Annual Meeting is CANCELLED.
>>
>> Unfortunately, this years Regatta and annual meeting has fallen victim  
>> to
>> the bad economy and it is the recommendation of the organizing committee
>> that it be cancelled.
>>
>> Our thanks go out to those folks who put in so much effort to organize
>> this event. I'm sure it would have been a great success another year.
>>
>> -- Karl Mielenhausen
>> Catalina 320 Hull 690
>> New Bern, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:31:12 -0700
>> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 2009 Regatta and Annual Meeting is CANCELLED.
>> To: "C320-List" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> <OFEFE7812B.2B26F10D-ON882575EE.00603D86 at averydennison.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> That's ok...I know most folks have had the economy hit them one way or  
>> another...we'll make sure we get to another soon in between our  
>> cruising...
>> ----------------------------------
>> Regards,
>> OD
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard A. Walker" [dickwalker at att.net]
>> Sent: 07/09/2009 09:53 AM MST
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 2009 Regatta and Annual Meeting is CANCELLED.
>>
>>
>>
>> Orlando thanks for all your planning.  I am sorry that we could not  
>> attend
>> this year.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ?
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Karl
>> Mielenhausen _/)
>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:09 AM
>> To: C320IA Discussion List
>> Subject: [C320-list] 2009 Regatta and Annual Meeting is CANCELLED.
>>
>> Unfortunately, this years Regatta and annual meeting has fallen victim  
>> to
>> the bad economy and it is the recommendation of the organizing committee
>> that it be cancelled.
>>
>> Our thanks go out to those folks who put in so much effort to organize
>> this event. I'm sure it would have been a great success another year.
>>
>> -- Karl Mielenhausen
>> Catalina 320 Hull 690
>> New Bern, NC
>>
>>
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