[C320-list] Update on starting problem

[Kirk McCullough]

Jim 

The button is there to allow you to turn on the ignition, the key that is,
which powers the glow plugs. So in cold weather, or any weather for that
matter, you hold the key all the way over for 20 or 30 seconds to warm the
cylinders. Then press the button to start the engine. It fires more quickly
when u use the glow plugs.

I had to replace the button once, and I had to have the starter motor
serviced and did a new solenoid at the same time. It's good to do this even
if you think it's not the problem; starting the engine can be a critical
matter is some situations so don't take any chances.

Kirk

#124 Perkins

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Pat Moriarty
Sent: 09 June 2009 12:04
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Update on starting problem


If you can get to the back of the solenoid it can be jumped with a 
screwdriver and the same with the starter to see which is possibly 
bad. You will get big sparks but I have done it for years on old cars 
and tractors. On my Perkins you can't even see the solenoid so I 
don't know how much luck you will have. There is also the hammer 
trick because sometimes they stick and you can jar them a couple of 
times but they still need replacing. The ignition switch has a start 
or momentary position on mine for the engine heaters read that as old 
diesel. Did the problem come before of after the switch was replaced???

At 01:41 PM 6/9/2009, you wrote:
>Guys,
>
>Good suggestions..thanks.
>
>I did find a blown fuse in a line in the engine compartment.  After 
>replacing the fuse I've got power back to the instrument pod.
>
>But... no starting yet.  When I attempt to start the voltage drops 
>but nothing happens.  Multimeter checks, assuming I'm doing that 
>correctly!, indicates all is well in the pod.  All grounds are tight 
>at the batteries and in the engine compartment.
>
>Could it be the starter solenoid? Or the starter itself?  How can 
>these be checked?
>
>Another side question.  I replaced the ignition and the new one has 
>a start function.  Any reason not to just wire that function in 
>bypassing the starter button and just eliminate the button?  Not 
>sure why the button exists anyway...
>
>Thanks for the step-by-step help!
>
>Jim #453
>
>>
>>Jim,
>>I would check all of the connections first.  Make sure they are 
>>tight and that the cables have not corroded at the crimp.  The 
>>first try sounded like the positive cable to the starter, the big 
>>one, was disconnected.
>>There are some fuses and fusable links which you need to make sure 
>>are ok as well b4 you replace the switches.
>>A multi-meter will allow you to check the connections and the switches.
>>Bruce
>>Somerset 671 SoCal
>
>>
>>Message: 4
>>Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:30:14 -0500
>>From: Pat Moriarty <patm at psiurethanes.com>
>>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Starting issue
>>To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>Message-ID: <20090608133014.C6E8E2001063 at proxy1.logixcom.net>
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>>
>>Beware of the multi meter as it will only confirm that you have a
>>path but that path may not handle the current for starting. I did
>>replace the starter button but knew it was bad because of
>>intermittent functioning.
>>
>>Pat #130
>>At 08:24 AM 6/8/2009, you wrote:
>>>Jim,
>>>I would check all of the connections first.  Make sure they are
>>>tight and that the cables have not corroded at the crimp.  The first
>>>try sounded like the positive cable to the starter, the big one, was
>>>disconnected.
>>>There are some fuses and fusable links which you need to make sure
>>>are ok as well b4 you replace the switches.
>>>A multi-meter will allow you to check the connections and the switches.
>>>Bruce
>>>Somerset 671 SoCal
>>>------Original Message------
>>>From: james_delong
>>>Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>>ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>Subject: [C320-list] Starting issue
>>>Sent: Jun 8, 2009 5:59 AM
>>>
>>>After a great two days off the coast of Georgia we returned to home
>>>port only to find we could not start to engine.  Sea Tow did a great
>>>job pushing us into our slip. Paid for the membership for three years!
>>>
>>>After starting the engine successfully about 5 times on the trip the
>>>last try went like this.....
>>>
>>>First attempt, power was to the panel (oil pressure light went on,
>>>etc) but the starter button did nothing.  After a few try's turning
>>>the key off and on then trying the button again, we had no power to
>>>the panel. It acted as if the batteries were not turned
>>>on.  Nothing!  Batteries are fine as all other electrical equipment
>>>is working as it should.
>>>
>>>Just nothing at the ignition.  I'm guessing it is the ignition
>>>switch or starter button.  My thought is to just replace both.
>>>
>>>Any other ideas?  Anything else in the system that may cause power
>>>to be interrupted at the ignition?
>>>
>>>Thanks all!  Jim #453
>>>
>>>
>>>Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>Pat Moriarty
>>PSI Urethanes Inc
>>PH: 800-888-5156  Fax: 512-837-8733
>>Please visit our web site at
>>www.psiurethanes.com
>>
>>
>>
>

Pat Moriarty
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