[C320-list] Update on starting problem

Pat Moriarty patm at psiurethanes.com
Tue Jun 9 12:04:29 PDT 2009


If you can get to the back of the solenoid it can be jumped with a 
screwdriver and the same with the starter to see which is possibly 
bad. You will get big sparks but I have done it for years on old cars 
and tractors. On my Perkins you can't even see the solenoid so I 
don't know how much luck you will have. There is also the hammer 
trick because sometimes they stick and you can jar them a couple of 
times but they still need replacing. The ignition switch has a start 
or momentary position on mine for the engine heaters read that as old 
diesel. Did the problem come before of after the switch was replaced???

At 01:41 PM 6/9/2009, you wrote:
>Guys,
>
>Good suggestions..thanks.
>
>I did find a blown fuse in a line in the engine compartment.  After 
>replacing the fuse I've got power back to the instrument pod.
>
>But... no starting yet.  When I attempt to start the voltage drops 
>but nothing happens.  Multimeter checks, assuming I'm doing that 
>correctly!, indicates all is well in the pod.  All grounds are tight 
>at the batteries and in the engine compartment.
>
>Could it be the starter solenoid? Or the starter itself?  How can 
>these be checked?
>
>Another side question.  I replaced the ignition and the new one has 
>a start function.  Any reason not to just wire that function in 
>bypassing the starter button and just eliminate the button?  Not 
>sure why the button exists anyway...
>
>Thanks for the step-by-step help!
>
>Jim #453
>
>>
>>Jim,
>>I would check all of the connections first.  Make sure they are 
>>tight and that the cables have not corroded at the crimp.  The 
>>first try sounded like the positive cable to the starter, the big 
>>one, was disconnected.
>>There are some fuses and fusable links which you need to make sure 
>>are ok as well b4 you replace the switches.
>>A multi-meter will allow you to check the connections and the switches.
>>Bruce
>>Somerset 671 SoCal
>
>>
>>Message: 4
>>Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:30:14 -0500
>>From: Pat Moriarty <patm at psiurethanes.com>
>>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Starting issue
>>To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>Message-ID: <20090608133014.C6E8E2001063 at proxy1.logixcom.net>
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>>
>>Beware of the multi meter as it will only confirm that you have a
>>path but that path may not handle the current for starting. I did
>>replace the starter button but knew it was bad because of
>>intermittent functioning.
>>
>>Pat #130
>>At 08:24 AM 6/8/2009, you wrote:
>>>Jim,
>>>I would check all of the connections first.  Make sure they are
>>>tight and that the cables have not corroded at the crimp.  The first
>>>try sounded like the positive cable to the starter, the big one, was
>>>disconnected.
>>>There are some fuses and fusable links which you need to make sure
>>>are ok as well b4 you replace the switches.
>>>A multi-meter will allow you to check the connections and the switches.
>>>Bruce
>>>Somerset 671 SoCal
>>>------Original Message------
>>>From: james_delong
>>>Sender: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>>ReplyTo: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>Subject: [C320-list] Starting issue
>>>Sent: Jun 8, 2009 5:59 AM
>>>
>>>After a great two days off the coast of Georgia we returned to home
>>>port only to find we could not start to engine.  Sea Tow did a great
>>>job pushing us into our slip. Paid for the membership for three years!
>>>
>>>After starting the engine successfully about 5 times on the trip the
>>>last try went like this.....
>>>
>>>First attempt, power was to the panel (oil pressure light went on,
>>>etc) but the starter button did nothing.  After a few try's turning
>>>the key off and on then trying the button again, we had no power to
>>>the panel. It acted as if the batteries were not turned
>>>on.  Nothing!  Batteries are fine as all other electrical equipment
>>>is working as it should.
>>>
>>>Just nothing at the ignition.  I'm guessing it is the ignition
>>>switch or starter button.  My thought is to just replace both.
>>>
>>>Any other ideas?  Anything else in the system that may cause power
>>>to be interrupted at the ignition?
>>>
>>>Thanks all!  Jim #453
>>>
>>>
>>>Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>>Pat Moriarty
>>PSI Urethanes Inc
>>PH: 800-888-5156  Fax: 512-837-8733
>>Please visit our web site at
>>www.psiurethanes.com
>>
>>
>>
>

Pat Moriarty
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