[C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing

[Barbara Uhlman]

Interesting thoughts.
xoxo, b.

--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 10:47 AM
> Pat,
> 
> The petcock on my muffler corroded shut years ago. When you
> winterize the
> engine, you end up getting antifreeze in the muffler. I use
> the -100 for my
> engine. The reason is the ratings on the 50/60/100
> antifreezes are for
> undiluted applications. Knowing that I will always have
> residual water in
> the system, spending an extra couple of bucks on the 100
> ensures that even
> when diluted, I will be protecting the system. I'm in the
> northeast, so we
> get the same cold winters...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jon Vez
> Solstice #582
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]
> On Behalf Of pat reynolds
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:15 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing
> 
> Do you have to drain the muffler?  I always run a five
> gallon bucket of
> clean water thru first and then put the hose in 2 gallons
> of antifreeze.  It
> gets pretty cold here in Chicago also but after 12 years no
> problem although
> I did have to replace the muffler this year due to a leak
> in the intake neck
> which I assumed was from vibration.
> 
> Pat R
> 
> --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 12:14 PM
> > Thanks, Allan, for the info. I'm
> > unable to drain the muffler via the
> > petcock. I thought that strange so I completely
> unscrewed
> > the petcock and
> > inserted a coat hanger--nothing. Then I completely
> removed
> > the entire valve
> > and tried the coat hanger--still nothing. Just seems
> not to
> > work as a drain.
> > Yet, the muffler works just fine. So, I winterize with
> 1
> > gal. of purple
> > antifreeze diluted 50/50. It doesn't get that cold in
> > Maryland.
> > 
> > Incidently, Jim Sweet mentioned that he uses the pink
> > antifreeze in the
> > engine. I've been advised by our yard that the pink
> does
> > not have the
> > anti-corrosives that are in the purple, and should not
> be
> > used left in the
> > engine over winter.  --For what it's worth--
> > 
> > Warren & Pattie Updike
> > Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> > Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Allan S. Field [mailto:allan.field at verizon.net]
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:22 AM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing
> > 
> > Warren - I also implemented this solution on my first
> boat
> > about 20 years
> > ago.  Picture me sailing on the Patapsco in
> February,
> > going below for a
> > minute, and standing in 4 inches of seawater.  It
> took
> > me a few minutes to
> > locate the problem.  When I cut the intake hose, I
> > installed a 3-way valve
> > in the line with a hose off one of the connections
> that
> > went to the
> > anti-freeze bucket.  Adding the 3-way added just
> > enough extra run to the
> > hose that allowed the alternator belt to wear a small
> hole
> > through the
> > intake hose.  Since everything was below the
> > waterline, 4 inches of very
> > cold seawater in the cabin.  The only thing that
> would
> > have been worse was
> > instead of having 4 inches of water up over my ankles
> would
> > have been a
> > sinking with very cold water up to my neck!  Lesson
> > learned - make very sure
> > the intake hose is clear of all belts! 
> > 
> > Finally, I first drain the aqua lift muffler into the
> bilge
> > by opening the
> > small petcock.  I then use a wet vac to clear the
> > bilge, then winterize as
> > you describe. - Allan
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]
> > On Behalf Of Warren Updike
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:06 AM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing
> > 
> > Amanda Lu, after wrestling with this for three years,
> I
> > finally cut the hose
> > at a convenient place and inserted an automotive
> flush
> > connection. You can
> > buy these at any auto store. It has a screw-on cap
> with the
> > same threads as
> > a garden hose. I have a short section of hose I attach
> to
> > this connection
> > and stick in a bucket of antifreeze (not the same
> stuff
> > used for the potable
> > water system.)  It only takes about one minute of
> > engine time for the bucket
> > to empty. I have someone outside to insure that the
> color
> > is showing at the
> > exhaust. Makes the job a no-brainer.
> > 
> > Warren & Pattie Updike
> > Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> > Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Ott [mailto:wmo48 at yahoo.com] 
> > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:11 AM
> > To: Catalina 320 Association
> > Subject: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing
> > 
> > Does anyone have any tips on winterizing the engine
> raw
> > water muffler ? 
> > What about the exhaust lines ?  Raw water feed to
> the
> > engine ?
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Mike
> > "Amanda Lu"
> > #508
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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