[C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing

[Barbara Uhlman]

Sorry, gang, I intended to forward this to Bob.  (blush)
Barb

--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Barbara Uhlman <uhlman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Barbara Uhlman <uhlman at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 1:44 PM
> Interesting thoughts.
> xoxo, b.
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/9/09, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 10:47 AM
> > Pat,
> > 
> > The petcock on my muffler corroded shut years ago.
> When you
> > winterize the
> > engine, you end up getting antifreeze in the muffler.
> I use
> > the -100 for my
> > engine. The reason is the ratings on the 50/60/100
> > antifreezes are for
> > undiluted applications. Knowing that I will always
> have
> > residual water in
> > the system, spending an extra couple of bucks on the
> 100
> > ensures that even
> > when diluted, I will be protecting the system. I'm in
> the
> > northeast, so we
> > get the same cold winters...
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Jon Vez
> > Solstice #582
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]
> > On Behalf Of pat reynolds
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:15 AM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing
> > 
> > Do you have to drain the muffler?  I always run a
> five
> > gallon bucket of
> > clean water thru first and then put the hose in 2
> gallons
> > of antifreeze.  It
> > gets pretty cold here in Chicago also but after 12
> years no
> > problem although
> > I did have to replace the muffler this year due to a
> leak
> > in the intake neck
> > which I assumed was from vibration.
> > 
> > Pat R
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler
> Winterizing
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 12:14 PM
> > > Thanks, Allan, for the info. I'm
> > > unable to drain the muffler via the
> > > petcock. I thought that strange so I completely
> > unscrewed
> > > the petcock and
> > > inserted a coat hanger--nothing. Then I
> completely
> > removed
> > > the entire valve
> > > and tried the coat hanger--still nothing. Just
> seems
> > not to
> > > work as a drain.
> > > Yet, the muffler works just fine. So, I winterize
> with
> > 1
> > > gal. of purple
> > > antifreeze diluted 50/50. It doesn't get that
> cold in
> > > Maryland.
> > > 
> > > Incidently, Jim Sweet mentioned that he uses the
> pink
> > > antifreeze in the
> > > engine. I've been advised by our yard that the
> pink
> > does
> > > not have the
> > > anti-corrosives that are in the purple, and
> should not
> > be
> > > used left in the
> > > engine over winter.  --For what it's worth--
> > > 
> > > Warren & Pattie Updike
> > > Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> > > Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Allan S. Field [mailto:allan.field at verizon.net]
> > > 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:22 AM
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler
> Winterizing
> > > 
> > > Warren - I also implemented this solution on my
> first
> > boat
> > > about 20 years
> > > ago.  Picture me sailing on the Patapsco in
> > February,
> > > going below for a
> > > minute, and standing in 4 inches of seawater. 
> It
> > took
> > > me a few minutes to
> > > locate the problem.  When I cut the intake hose,
> I
> > > installed a 3-way valve
> > > in the line with a hose off one of the
> connections
> > that
> > > went to the
> > > anti-freeze bucket.  Adding the 3-way added
> just
> > > enough extra run to the
> > > hose that allowed the alternator belt to wear a
> small
> > hole
> > > through the
> > > intake hose.  Since everything was below the
> > > waterline, 4 inches of very
> > > cold seawater in the cabin.  The only thing
> that
> > would
> > > have been worse was
> > > instead of having 4 inches of water up over my
> ankles
> > would
> > > have been a
> > > sinking with very cold water up to my neck! 
> Lesson
> > > learned - make very sure
> > > the intake hose is clear of all belts! 
> > > 
> > > Finally, I first drain the aqua lift muffler into
> the
> > bilge
> > > by opening the
> > > small petcock.  I then use a wet vac to clear
> the
> > > bilge, then winterize as
> > > you describe. - Allan
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Warren Updike
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:06 AM
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Muffler
> Winterizing
> > > 
> > > Amanda Lu, after wrestling with this for three
> years,
> > I
> > > finally cut the hose
> > > at a convenient place and inserted an automotive
> > flush
> > > connection. You can
> > > buy these at any auto store. It has a screw-on
> cap
> > with the
> > > same threads as
> > > a garden hose. I have a short section of hose I
> attach
> > to
> > > this connection
> > > and stick in a bucket of antifreeze (not the
> same
> > stuff
> > > used for the potable
> > > water system.)  It only takes about one minute
> of
> > > engine time for the bucket
> > > to empty. I have someone outside to insure that
> the
> > color
> > > is showing at the
> > > exhaust. Makes the job a no-brainer.
> > > 
> > > Warren & Pattie Updike
> > > Catalina 320, #62, "Warr De Mar"
> > > Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mike Ott [mailto:wmo48 at yahoo.com] 
> > > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:11 AM
> > > To: Catalina 320 Association
> > > Subject: [C320-list] Engine Muffler Winterizing
> > > 
> > > Does anyone have any tips on winterizing the
> engine
> > raw
> > > water muffler ? 
> > > What about the exhaust lines ?  Raw water feed
> to
> > the
> > > engine ?
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Mike
> > > "Amanda Lu"
> > > #508
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> >       
> > 
> >
>