[C320-list] boat out

[Robert E. Sloat]

Agree with Chris on the design matter. I have not seen any reports of any 
Catalina sailboat where the fixed keel could not support the boat except 
maybe for a grounding at speed when dynamic forces are in play.   Slings in 
front of and in
back of the keel are normally used to raise sailboats of the C320 size.

With lashings to the mast to keep the boat upright on the skid and the 
possibility of
the boat sliding backward, the area around the mast step may have taken a 
lot
of flexing force when you pulled the boat up the ramp.  I don't think you 
would see these kind of forces during normal sailing.

Also, too much backward sliding of the boat could have caused the lashings 
holding on to the mast to pull it forward relative to the boat lowering the 
mast in a dramatic fashion if a critical stay or shroud let go in the 
process.  I would think this would be a concern with a mast like ours which 
is stepped at the cabin top.

Good luck on getting your boat on the tarmac.

Bob Sloat
Savannah 894
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Burti" <clburti at gmail.com>
To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] boat out


>I would be far more suspicious of damage than design fault.
>
> Here is a photo that is very typical of a C-320 on stands. Note that
> virtually all the weight is on the keel.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/37rdngd
>
> Somewhere someone posted a photo of a C-320 where the tide went out
> leaving her standing on her keel for about eight hours with no damage,
> but I can't find it today.
>
> The only keel damage that I have seen reported on the two lists that I
> participate in over the last seven years as a C-320 owner has been
> rare and has resulted from known hard groundings. It doesn't make a
> lot of sense to me that a C-320 can't rest on her keel as a matter of
> course if she isn't otherwise damaged. And if that were the case, I
> feel certain that we would have heard a lot about it in the way we
> read about the "Catalina Smile" on the C-30 (which usually is a filler
> issue not a structural one). Some areas with large tidal ranges even
> have scrubbing pilings for boats to tie up to to scrub the bottom.
> Riding up a marine railway would seem logically to be similar to a
> tidal grounding. If a C-320 couldn't take that with ease, it would
> seem likely that we East Coast US sailors would have keels falling off
> like leaves.
>
> I can't speak to the noises on the marine railway, because I've missed
> the times mine has been blocked on stands. Commitment suffered going
> aground into a cypress swamp and being dragged out by a tug when she
> broke her mooring ring in Hurricane Ophelia. The only damage resulted
> from being dragged out by the stern and that was limited to a bent
> rudder post and some deep gouges in the wing. I have some pictures of
> her standing on her keel in the swamp that I will try to upload to the
> website.
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Dingo Is Talent
> <dingoistalent at bigpond.com> wrote:
>> This is a response from the guy I bought my 320 off.... STATE
>> DISTRIBUTOR...
>> I believe him...but not NORM, the Australian Distributor....
>> FYI, Norm is a bit of a bullshit artist....
>>
>> Your thoughts...appreciated - Can you ask the owners.....will keep
>> strictly
>> you and I from here on .
>> They are saying one thing...you another..
>> Are they covering up?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron,
>> Just got a call from Norm, he knows Paul, and according to him the two
>> boats
>> in question hit rocks and were nothing to do with slipping damage.
>> According
>> to Norm, some of his competitors were spreading the rumour that it was
>> slip
>> damage.
>> I'll keep you posted.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Chris Burti Farmville, NC
>