[C320-list] steering tight

[Pat Ireland]

Jeff

That's an explanation that fits the events better than anything, that I have
been able to come up with.  But then, I'm still in denial.  There are some
pictures of the rudder from the survey haulout.  I'll see if I've got any
detail of the leading edge area.

Thanks

Pat

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:

> If the upper trailing edge of the rudder isn't touching the hull the shaft
> is probably not bent.  Just in front of the leading edge of the rudder is
> sometimes a metal pin hanging down to guide floating line/kelp away from
> that gap between the rudder and the hull.  Maybe a chunk of line got stuck
> there and the prop snagged it?  Could have wedged a chunk of debris from the
> line in there?
>
> Would be good to have the diver carefully check the place where the rudder
> post goes up to see if there isn't something jammed between the top of the
> rudder and the hull.
>
> -Jeff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Ireland <cherie320 at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:43:49
> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] steering tight
>
>  Chris
>
> We heard a thump, while motoring at 2-3 knots.    The prop and rudder were
> inspected the following week when our diver cleaned the bottom.  He found
> no
> damage, but since then the helm has been tight.
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It takes a lot of force to bend the rather substantial rudder post on
> > C-320...have had a hard grounding recently or have you been towed
> backwards
> > (that is what caused my problem)?
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Pat Ireland <cherie320 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > Well, that may be the problem, the symptoms sound similar.
> > >
> > > Pat
> > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We also had a bent rudder post...4" out of true at the bottom...tight
> > > > throughout the range and no way to tell without a haulout
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Sean Kaldor <spkaldor at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Pat,
> > > > >
> > > > > Is Cherie's steering tight throughout the entire range of rudder
> > swing?
> > > > If
> > > > > so, also consider the lubrication of the rudder post in its tube.
> >  One
> > > > > idea would be to disconnect the cable from the helm to isolate the
> > > > rudder...
> > > > > that will help determine if the tightness is in the rudder, or in
> the
> > > > helm
> > > > > controls.
> > > > >
> > > > > If her steering is tight only after a certain degree of turn, it
> > could
> > > be
> > > > > (but is hopefully not) the rudder post. I was looking at a boat
> > > recently.
> > > > > Seller said the steering was fine, but recently became a bit
> 'tight'.
> > > It
> > > > > turned fine from about 20 degrees starboard to 20 degrees port,
> then
> > > > became
> > > > > very tight after that. Topside inspection and diver inspection
> > revealed
> > > > > nothing. Had to have it hauled to find out that the rudder post was
> > > bent
> > > > > very slightly. Hope that isn't the problem...
> > > > >
> > > > > Sean
> > > > > C320 Liberté #499
> > > > > San Francisco
> > > > >
> > > > > - - - - - - -
> > > > >
> > > > > All-
> > > > > The steering on Cherie is very tight.  We are convinced that it was
> > not
> > > > > this
> > > > > tight before and that something has changed.  We inspected the
> > quadrant
> > > > and
> > > > > found no foreign material jamming it.  The turning pulleys are
> free,
> > > the
> > > > > chain and sprocket are free, the autopilot is not dragging, and the
> > > brake
> > > > > is
> > > > > free.  We had a diver check it out several weeks ago and will have
> > him
> > > > > check
> > > > > it again and check specifically for fishing line or other debris.
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone had a problem with the rudder shaft binding or with any
> > > other
> > > > > steering failure that appeared to be a rudder dragging?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any experience or ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pat Ireland Cherie #801
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Chris Burti Farmville, NC
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Chris Burti Farmville, NC
> >
>