[C320-list] Haul Out

[Brad Kuether]

How many gallons of antifreeze?  Well, that depends.  If you don't bypass 
the water heater you need at least 6 gallons to fill that up.

I used 10 last year and didn't bypass the water heater.....

Expensive but the bypass thing eludes me.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Aberdale" <summerwind3 at comcast.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Haul Out


> Bob,
>
> Thanks very much for your response.
>
> How do you get access to the inside of the water heater to remove the 
> remaining water? There is no opening at the top.  Also, where do you 
> access the anti freeze to check it?
>
> About how many gallons of RV Marine anti freeze do you put into each 
> water tank?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Joe
>
> On Sep 12, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Robert Seastream wrote:
>
>> Water heater:  Yes, there's water below the spigot; hard to  evacuate 
>> entirely.  I use a shop vac but know there's still some  'dirty water' 
>> lurking in the bottom.  There's room for expansion  (should it freeze), 
>> so I don't worry about it much.  Some folks  yank the heater now and then 
>> to give it a thorough flushing, but as  long as the water tastes good I 
>> wouldn't do it.
>>
>> Water filter:  I remove and clean the Shurflo filter as well. 
>> 'Backflushing' it under a faucet and/or soaking it in a bucket  seems 
>> good enough cleaning.  It looks like it comes apart, but I'd  buy a 
>> replacement before going that far.
>>
>> Antifreeze:  Yes, there's antifreeze permanently inside the engine,  just 
>> like in your car engine.  The cooling system is similar to a  car engine, 
>> BUT unlike a car engine, your boat engine has no  radiator exposed to 
>> outside cooling air.  Instead, it has a 'heat  exchanger'.  The engine 
>> water pump pushes raw seawater over this  heat exchanger, thus cooling 
>> the antifreeze inside the engine.   Test it if you like, but it's 
>> probably going to be good for about  10 years without compromise.  How 
>> often do you change your car  engine antifreeze?  How many hours are on 
>> your car engine vs your  boat engine?  Something to consider.  In any 
>> event, if you want to  drain/change your antifreeze, I've pulled the 
>> procedure from the  list archives and will send it to you off list if you 
>> wish.
>>
>> Bob Seastream
>> Intuition # 906
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Brad Kuether wrote:
>>
>>> I am still trying to understand my water heater...  :)
>>>
>>> I have never had the pump apart but likely will this year.
>>>
>>> Anti freeze for the engine can be accessed in the engine  compartment in 
>>> a plastic expansion bottle.
>>>
>>> You can use one of those anti freeze testers available at auto  stores. 
>>> Suck it in and see what it says.
>>>
>>> If you need to add, use the same color.  If you need to  change.... 
>>> That I would get a mechanic for the first time to show  you how.  That 
>>> is what I am going to do.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Aberdale" 
>>> <summerwind3 at comcast.net>
>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 7:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Haul Out
>>>
>>>
>>>> The water heater tank under the sink has a spigot about 8 inches  up 
>>>> from the tank bottom. Is there water in the tank below the  spigot or 
>>>> does the water only go down to the spigot?  There is  no opening at 
>>>> the top of the tank.
>>>>
>>>> I also removed and cleaned the clear plastic filter on the  Shurflo 
>>>> Diaphram pump.  Is the filter supposed to come apart for  cleaning?
>>>>
>>>> Is there antifreeze kept permanently  in one part of the engine 
>>>> during summer operation? If so, how do I get access to it to  check it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much for your responses.  I couldn't do it without them.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>> #908
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:49 AM, hcreech at comcast.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Joe,
>>>>> Do you mean retractor? If so the procedure is simple, much   preferred 
>>>>> to replacing fuel filters.
>>>>> I run the engine for at least 10 minuets. Since I am tied up in  the 
>>>>> slip, the boat that is, I put the engine in gear to cause  the  engine 
>>>>> to heat faster. Learned this in diesel class. After  the  engine is 
>>>>> warmed up place the tube down the oil dipstick  tube and  start 
>>>>> sucking. At the end jiggle the tube around to  try to suck up  all the 
>>>>> oil possible. Once done place an  abundance of paper towels  under the 
>>>>> oil filter, remove the  filter with a wrench. Replace with  new 
>>>>> filter, make sure you  oil the O-ring, tighten to directions,  usually 
>>>>> with hands only.  Then add about two quarts of oil using an  oil 
>>>>> funnel then  monitor with dipstick, DO NOT OVERFILL, if you do  remove 
>>>>> some.  Close the cap, replace the dipstick, start the engine.  The low 
>>>>> oil pressure indicator will come on briefly but then will  shut  off 
>>>>> as oil is pumped. Kill the engine, check the dipstick and   add more 
>>>>> if necessary. I always leave the level about 1/8"  below  the top mark 
>>>>> to be safe.
>>>>> Only do the transmission every other year, it always looks like  new 
>>>>> oil when drained. Hope this helps, any other questions?  Just ask.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Herb Creech
>>>>> Cloud Chaser #606
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Joseph Aberdale" <summerwind3 at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 9, 2010 9:09:55 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Haul Out
>>>>>
>>>>> I am in Cape Cod MA and have a Yanmar 3GM30F. I have searched the
>>>>> Yanmar manual, Catalina manual and this website for an oil change
>>>>> procedure article and have not found anything. I purchased a Marpac
>>>>> Fluid Tractor. Is it as simple as extracting the present oil and
>>>>> adding new oil? Same with the transmission oil as well?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your responses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>> #908
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Brad Kuether wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The oil and filter for the motor gets changed prior to haulout,
>>>>>> regardless of hours. (always!). The oil weight will depend on the
>>>>>> motor. My Yanmar 3YM30 uses 15W40.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The transmission fluid is motor oil. Pure SAE 30 weight. It can
>>>>>> be hard to find.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check your operators manual for the correct oil weights and
>>>>>> capacities for both motor and tranny.. If you can't find it check
>>>>>> the internet you can find a copy there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Transmission oil doesn't need to be changed every year. If the
>>>>>> boat is new to you may not be a bad ideal. Mine was dirty and I
>>>>>> did change it first year. Engine oil, at least once per year, and
>>>>>> always prior to winter storage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also remember to check your anti freeze state. Red is a heavy duty
>>>>>> multi season, green needs to be changed more often. They don't
>>>>>> recommend the green stuff, check the specs very carefully, they
>>>>>> speak to how the stuff reacts with aluminum blocks. I guess if you
>>>>>> are hauling now you may be in a very cold climate and quite
>>>>>> possibly your anti freeze needs to be drained.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where are you... in like northern Canada or something? :) 85 and
>>>>>> really *nice* here in Maryland.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Brad, Mary, Monica, and Jarod
>>>>>> "Independence"
>>>>>> 2004 Catalina 320 Hull 1006
>>>>>> Middle River, MD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Aberdale"
>>>>>> <summerwind3 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:23 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Haul Out
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am a new C-320 owner and am preparing to haul out my boat for
>>>>>>> the first time. Should I change both the engine oil and filter
>>>>>>> and the transmission fluid now or in the spring? If now, what
>>>>>>> type and weight of engine oil and transmission fluid should I  use?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your comments are very much appreciated. Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>> #908
>>>>>>
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