[C320-list] documentation

[Karl Mielenhausen _/)]

Not exactly Herb:

> CHAPTER I: COAST GUARD, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (CONTINUED)
> SUBCHAPTER G: DOCUMENTATION AND MEASUREMENT OF VESSELS
> PART 67: DOCUMENTATION OF VESSELS
> Subpart I: Marking Requirements for Vessel Documentation

> 67.121 - Official number marking requirement.

> The official number of the vessel, preceded by the abbreviation "NO."  
> must be marked in block-type Arabic numerals not less than >three inches  
> in height on some clearly visible interior structural part of the hull.  
> The number must be permanently affixed to the >vessel so that  
> alteration, removal, or replacement would be obvious. If the official  
> number is on a separate plate, the plate must be >fastened in such a  
> manner that its removal would normally cause some scarring of or damage  
> to the surrounding hull area.

However, as a USCGAUX vessel examiner, I am flexible on the concept of  
"visible". If someone opens a door or moves a cushion to expose the  
number, I accept that. I consider a bulkhead to be a "structural part of  
the hull". I have even been known to accept the inside surface of a door.  
In fact, if the number is displayed in the "open", I suggest that a second  
version of the number be applied in a less visible, "secret" location that  
a criminal might not find, but that the USCG or law enforcement might.

Heres what the CFR says about marking:

> § 67.123   Name and hailing port marking requirements.

> (a) For vessels other than those covered in paragraphs (b) and (c) of  
> this section, the name of the vessel must be marked on some clearly  
> visible exterior part of the port and starboard bow and the stern of the  
> vessel. The hailing port of the vessel must be marked on some clearly  
> visible exterior part of the stern of the vessel.
> (b) Vessels with square bow. For vessels having a square bow, the name  
> of the vessel must be marked on some clearly visible exterior part of  
> the bow in a manner to avoid obliteration. The name and hailing port  
> must be marked on some clearly visible exterior part of the stern.
> (c) Recreational vessels. For vessels documented exclusively for  
> recreation, the name and hailing port must be marked together on some  
> clearly visible exterior part of the hull.
> (d) The markings required by paragraphs (a), (b), and (c) of this  
> section, which may be made by the use of any means and materials which  
> result in durable markings, must be made in clearly legible letters of  
> the Latin alphabet or Arabic or Roman numerals not less than four inches  
> in height.

(c) and (d) are what apply to us.

BTW, Recreational vessel means “a vessel--
(A) being manufactured or operated primarily for pleasure; or
(B) leased, rented, or chartered to another for the latter's pleasure.”(46  
USCS § 2101)

Karl Mielenhausen
USCGAUX Vessel Examiner (and your commodore for a few more days)

On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:19:54 -0400, <hcreech at comcast.net> wrote:

> The Coast guard requires that your documentation numbers be on the boat,  
> not in plain sight, and so they cannot be removed easily. Not the same  
> as state registration numbers that are usually on the bow.
>
> Herb Creech
> Cloud chaser 606
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aqua5Len at gmail.com
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:05:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] documentation
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> WHEN YOUR BOAT IS COAST GUARD REGISTERED YOU DON'T PUT NUMBERS ON BOAT.
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> LEN
> AQUA5
> MARINA DEL REY, CA
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> On , jim brown <jbrown5093 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Curious as to where people have put the required numbers on a documented
>> vessel. Also, has anyone had problems with the vessel ame on the port  
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>> starboard hull and the home port on the stern? The requirement is that
>> they be in the same place.
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>> On Aug 10, 2011 2:01 PM, "pat reynolds" lorasalum at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On my boat it is caused by the stainless steel wear pad being mounted
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Karl Mielenhausen
Catalina 320 Hull 690