[C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website

Thu Jun 9 18:23:28 PDT 2011

OK. Thanks again. I do appreciate your input. I'll muddle on.

jack
#947

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Kuether" <bkuether at comcast.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website

> No mine was not a rule.
>
> Mine was a small black box that had a mechanical float switch inside of 
> it.
>
> Check the links in the documentation I created.  You can see the base it 
> was mounted on.
>
> If your's is a rule, not sure this upgrade will line up for you with 
> regards to the holes in the bilge.
>
> -Brad, Mary, Monica, and Jarod
> "Independence"
> 2004 Catalina 320 Hull 1006
> Middle River, MD
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack McDonough" <mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>
>
>> So, Brad, lemme get this straight. Was your original  switch a Rule? Mine 
>> is a Rule but, as I said earlier, there ain't no screws to loosen as 
>> others have described, so I'm thinking I have a different model. I never 
>> had any trouble with this switch until this season when it stopped 
>> working altogether. You think the Johnson is the way to go? And does it 
>> fit the same holes as the Rule?
>>
>> Jack
>> #947
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "jim brown" <jbrown5093 at yahoo.com>
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>>
>>
>> I agree completely. I'm on my second float switch. Changed to a new one 
>> because it got stuck in the on position with no water in the bilge when 
>> heeled to starboard. Guess what- new one does the same thing. I'm about 
>> to try a different type.
>>
>>
>> Jim Brown
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Brad Kuether <bkuether at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 6:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>>
>> To be honest, it is NOT worth trying to salvage the stock bilge pump 
>> sensor. Its better to just replace it, with something that WON'T get hung 
>> up, because it is mechanical rather than electrical/enclosed. Even if it 
>> wasn't the root cause...... (but I am almost 100% sure it was....) it is 
>> better to have it replaced.....
>>
>> After doing this replacement, I was kicking myself for not doing it 
>> sooner. After I came to realize what cheap POS it was, I actually felt 
>> kind of stupid, when I realized what I was "relying on", to keep my boat 
>> from potentially sinking.
>>
>> I know that people don't need another reason to spend additional $$ on 
>> their boats, but this, was one of them for me. Why I felt it necessary to 
>> document the process. And to be honest, if you go with the Johnson part, 
>> it REALLY is easy and no more holes to drill!!!!
>>
>> Just my 2cents, and sorry for the rant. I know everyone is just trying to 
>> help, and that help is something I have taken in the past and completely 
>> appreciate. I will shut up now.
>>
>> -Brad, Mary, Monica, and Jarod
>> "Independence"
>> 2004 Catalina 320 Hull 1006
>> Middle River, MD
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com>
>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>>
>>
>>> Did you try shorting the wires where they leave the float switch or put 
>>> an
>>> ometer across where they go into the pump to see if the switch works 
>>> when
>>> operated manually.
>>> Irv #851
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Jack McDonough 
>>> <mcdonough5 at verizon.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ted:
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Thanks for the idea but the switch was on.
>>>>
>>>> jack
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Barto" <capt.tb at verizon.net>
>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You did check the bottom switch in the right hand column on the 12 volt
>>>>> panel to make sure it's in the "on" position? When I first bought my 
>>>>> boat
>>>>> (2002 #880) I replaced the float switch in a panic before discovering 
>>>>> that
>>>>> while wired direct to battery Catalina put a switch on the panel that 
>>>>> kills
>>>>> power to the float switch. Only purpose for this I can think of is to
>>>>> replace the float switch, weird. Ted
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jack McDonough
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:54 AM
>>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the offer of help. I have something from Chris, too, but 
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> also look for yours. If that 7-year-old is still available, I probably
>>>>> will
>>>>> need him/her, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> jack
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Kuether" 
>>>>> <bkuether at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:35 PM
>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jack,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is likely the sensor and it is a relatively easy replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I documented the entire process on the 320 website, including a
>>>>>> comprehensive BOMs, and submitted it, but it does not appear to have 
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> approved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Burti would you be so kind to please take a peek at any pending
>>>>>> articles and see if mine is in there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jack you can contact me offline if you need any info on this fix. 
>>>>>> Took
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> about 2 hours but I had a 7 year old with me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Brad, Mary, Monica, and Jarod
>>>>>> "Independence"
>>>>>> 2004 Catalina 320 Hull 1006
>>>>>> Middle River, MD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack McDonough" <
>>>>>>> mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:06 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After launching today, we discovered that the automatic bilge pump 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> our 2003 320 wasn't working. The pump worked fine on "manual" but 
>>>>>>> the float
>>>>>>> switch in the bilge would not activate the pump.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assuming I need to replace the float switch, can anyone tell me how 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> remove it? In other words, how is it fastened to the bottom of the 
>>>>>>> bilge?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or is there any other reason it wouldn't work -- and, if so, what's 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> solution?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be grateful for any help on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>> #947
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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