[C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website

[Brad Kuether]

No mine was not a rule.

Mine was a small black box that had a mechanical float switch inside of it.

Check the links in the documentation I created.  You can see the base it was 
mounted on.

If your's is a rule, not sure this upgrade will line up for you with regards 
to the holes in the bilge.

-Brad, Mary, Monica, and Jarod
"Independence"
2004 Catalina 320 Hull 1006
Middle River, MD
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack McDonough" <mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website


> So, Brad, lemme get this straight. Was your original  switch a Rule? Mine 
> is a Rule but, as I said earlier, there ain't no screws to loosen as 
> others have described, so I'm thinking I have a different model. I never 
> had any trouble with this switch until this season when it stopped working 
> altogether. You think the Johnson is the way to go? And does it fit the 
> same holes as the Rule?
>
> Jack
> #947
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jim brown" <jbrown5093 at yahoo.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>
>
> I agree completely. I'm on my second float switch. Changed to a new one 
> because it got stuck in the on position with no water in the bilge when 
> heeled to starboard. Guess what- new one does the same thing. I'm about to 
> try a different type.
>
>
> Jim Brown
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Brad Kuether <bkuether at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>
> To be honest, it is NOT worth trying to salvage the stock bilge pump 
> sensor. Its better to just replace it, with something that WON'T get hung 
> up, because it is mechanical rather than electrical/enclosed. Even if it 
> wasn't the root cause...... (but I am almost 100% sure it was....) it is 
> better to have it replaced.....
>
> After doing this replacement, I was kicking myself for not doing it 
> sooner. After I came to realize what cheap POS it was, I actually felt 
> kind of stupid, when I realized what I was "relying on", to keep my boat 
> from potentially sinking.
>
> I know that people don't need another reason to spend additional $$ on 
> their boats, but this, was one of them for me. Why I felt it necessary to 
> document the process. And to be honest, if you go with the Johnson part, 
> it REALLY is easy and no more holes to drill!!!!
>
> Just my 2cents, and sorry for the rant. I know everyone is just trying to 
> help, and that help is something I have taken in the past and completely 
> appreciate. I will shut up now.
>
> -Brad, Mary, Monica, and Jarod
> "Independence"
> 2004 Catalina 320 Hull 1006
> Middle River, MD
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com>
> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>
>
>> Did you try shorting the wires where they leave the float switch or put 
>> an
>> ometer across where they go into the pump to see if the switch works when
>> operated manually.
>> Irv #851
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Jack McDonough 
>> <mcdonough5 at verizon.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Ted:
>>>
>>> Yes. Thanks for the idea but the switch was on.
>>>
>>> jack
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Barto" <capt.tb at verizon.net>
>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>>>
>>>
>>> You did check the bottom switch in the right hand column on the 12 volt
>>>> panel to make sure it's in the "on" position? When I first bought my 
>>>> boat
>>>> (2002 #880) I replaced the float switch in a panic before discovering 
>>>> that
>>>> while wired direct to battery Catalina put a switch on the panel that 
>>>> kills
>>>> power to the float switch. Only purpose for this I can think of is to
>>>> replace the float switch, weird. Ted
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jack McDonough
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:54 AM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>>>>
>>>> Brad:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the offer of help. I have something from Chris, too, but 
>>>> I'll
>>>> also look for yours. If that 7-year-old is still available, I probably
>>>> will
>>>> need him/her, too.
>>>>
>>>> jack
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Kuether" 
>>>> <bkuether at comcast.net>
>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:35 PM
>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP) - documented on 320 Website
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jack,
>>>>>
>>>>> It is likely the sensor and it is a relatively easy replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> I documented the entire process on the 320 website, including a
>>>>> comprehensive BOMs, and submitted it, but it does not appear to have 
>>>>> been
>>>>> approved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Burti would you be so kind to please take a peek at any pending
>>>>> articles and see if mine is in there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack you can contact me offline if you need any info on this fix. Took
>>>>> me
>>>>> about 2 hours but I had a 7 year old with me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Brad, Mary, Monica, and Jarod
>>>>> "Independence"
>>>>> 2004 Catalina 320 Hull 1006
>>>>> Middle River, MD
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack McDonough" <
>>>>>> mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:06 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Bilge pump (HELP)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After launching today, we discovered that the automatic bilge pump in
>>>>>> our 2003 320 wasn't working. The pump worked fine on "manual" but the 
>>>>>> float
>>>>>> switch in the bilge would not activate the pump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming I need to replace the float switch, can anyone tell me how 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> remove it? In other words, how is it fastened to the bottom of the 
>>>>>> bilge?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or is there any other reason it wouldn't work -- and, if so, what's 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> solution?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be grateful for any help on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>> #947
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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